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Pass the Constitution Restoration Act (CRA)
Conservative USA ^ | 4/17/05 | Conservative Caucus

Posted on 04/17/2005 8:57:14 PM PDT by jdhljc169

Pass the Constitution Restoration Act (CRA)

THE BILL TO RESTORE OUR CONSTITUTION!

This important bill will restrict the jurisdiction of the U.S. Supreme Court and all lower federal courts to that permitted by the U.S. Constitution, including on the subject of the acknowledgement of God (as in the Roy Moore 10 Commandments issue); and it also restricts federal courts from recognizing the laws of foreign countries and international law as the supreme law of our land. The new Senate bill is S. 520, introduced by Senators Shelby, Brownback, and Burr, and the House version is H.R. 1070, introduced by Rep. Aderholt and 24 cosponsors. Help pass this bill by asking your Senators and Congressman to become co-sponsors of the bill and to urge fast action to get committee votes. Please act today.

Senate bill

House bill

(Excerpt) Read more at conservativeusa.org ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: consitution; judiciary
I had not seen anything on this bill. I found it on the above website and wanted to pass along.

Write your senators & congressperson (PC) today!

1 posted on 04/17/2005 8:57:15 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: jdhljc169

bumpforlater


2 posted on 04/17/2005 9:03:44 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: jdhljc169

Sounds like a good way to yank the leash on the Supreme Judicial Perverts.


3 posted on 04/17/2005 9:07:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out!)
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To: jdhljc169
Good Luck.

Let me know when congress can control their own constitutional excesses, much less reign in somebody else.
4 posted on 04/17/2005 9:14:43 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Unemployed people should forfeit their right to vote.)
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What happens when the courts rule the CRA "unconstitutional"?


5 posted on 04/17/2005 9:21:17 PM PDT by OldArmy94
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To: jdhljc169

The whole dang government is unconstitutional. I can prove it.


6 posted on 04/17/2005 9:37:43 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: OldArmy94
What happens when the courts rule the CRA "unconstitutional"?

Exactly what I was thinking.

Since the Judiciary uses Judicial Review to say what is and what isn't constitutional, how long will the CRA last?

Passing a bill to limit the Judiciary to the very Constitution that the Judiciary has unconstitutionally altered over the years is a fool's game that's only use is to pacify the people.

If the Congress ever wants to gets serious about reining in the Judiciary it should amend the Constitution to limit judges terms, and use "nullification" on those Supreme Court rulings it finds unconstitutional.

There can be no separation of powers when one branch of government assumes the mantle of overlord, and the other branches of government genuflect before it.

7 posted on 04/17/2005 9:51:41 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: Javelina

You are right. However, Congress can impeach Supreme Court Justices.


9 posted on 04/17/2005 10:47:12 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Javelina

I Don't believe you are wrong IMO, the SCOTUS should however be restricted by the Constitution. If they do not accept those restrictions then impeachment is justified and a legitimate course of action. A review of "good behavior"!


10 posted on 04/17/2005 10:49:07 PM PDT by Archon of the East
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To: jdhljc169

Wow. A "Now Mind Me" law.


11 posted on 04/17/2005 11:30:56 PM PDT by Graymatter (DECISION 2008: Give me Hillary or give me Darth! ...or just Alexis and Krystle...)
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To: jdhljc169

Unfortunately this law is a ill-conceived as those about gun control. Outlaws do not obey the law so new laws will not deter them. The government and the courts are already violating the constitution so they are not likely to alter their behavior after passage of yet another new law.


12 posted on 04/17/2005 11:45:58 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: jdhljc169

a waste of time for the congress...

they already have the power to reign in the judiciary through impeachment... those that act against the principles of our constitution need to go...

the peoples reps need to show their displeasure.

teeman


13 posted on 04/18/2005 5:17:59 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: jdhljc169
I was going to write my Senator, but he's a sponsor (Brownback).

It will just be declared unconstitutional by the Oligarchy court.

14 posted on 04/18/2005 5:53:11 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: jdhljc169

Do you think we could get one together that would extend this to Congress as well?


15 posted on 04/18/2005 5:54:05 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

***Do you think we could get one together that would extend this to Congress as well?


Good one..


16 posted on 04/18/2005 7:09:19 AM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: jdhljc169
Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an entity of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer or agent of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official or personal capacity), concerning that entity's, officer's, or agent's acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government

What happens when some "officer or agent" of government declares that "mother earth" is God and starts seizing people's land pursuant to their "acknowledgment of [mother earth] as the sovereign source of law"? Fourth amendment rights? Forget it. There are all kinds of little hooks like that in the proposed legislation. It is a horrible bill.
17 posted on 04/18/2005 11:19:13 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: jdhljc169

Both my Senators are screaming RINO's with only the slightest passing knowledge of the Constitution so asking for their support is futile. My congresscritter has a 96% party line voting record for the democrats so asking him anything is also a waste.


18 posted on 04/18/2005 11:46:58 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: jdhljc169

Does this thing have a snowball chance?


19 posted on 04/18/2005 11:48:18 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: jdhljc169

I will gladly sign on to A Constitution Restoration Act if the Congressmen and Senators will add restrictions on all their unconstitutional spending and all their unconstitutional actions. Until then it's pure political BS.


20 posted on 04/18/2005 11:52:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Javelina

By limiing what can be appealed to lower courts, it also limits the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, since those things over which the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction are spelled out explicitly in the Constitution.


21 posted on 04/18/2005 11:52:57 AM PDT by wiley
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To: Javelina

“I might be wrong, but I don't think that Congress can actually limit the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. The lower federal courts, yes for sure. But the Supreme Court's jurisdiction is given by Article III. I could be wrong - correct me if I am because I'm interested in the topic.”

No, here is the law:

“In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.” – Article III section 2.

Congress can preclude the Courts, all of them, from reviewing specific laws.


22 posted on 04/18/2005 11:54:44 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: jdhljc169; OhioAttorney; abu afak; P_A_I
`Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an entity of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer or agent of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official or personal capacity), concerning that entity's, officer's, or agent's acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government'.

So a government-expressed opinion that Allah is the source of our liberty could conceivably arise in some Arab-populous region of America, and this law could be used to justify it. This law is well-intentioned but flawed. I'll depart from the groupthink here and say that what we have is already sufficient. The Creator-given element of our rights is difficult to explain to skeptics, but it makes sense. If you have random chance as a creator, it sill provided you with free will. It's different getting a Hindu to accept Jehovah as one's creator. This continues to be an argument against unlimited immigration, but it doesn't give cause for legislation that makes disputes over God's personal role in our government off limits.

23 posted on 04/18/2005 3:14:22 PM PDT by risk
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To: jdhljc169

The courts will rule it is un-Constituional and ignore it and then what?

Congress will:

A) Impeach the offending jurists.

B) Make really big speeches on C-SPAN and the evening news.

C) Do nothing.

D) B & C

If you chose B, C, or D you're right.


24 posted on 04/18/2005 3:18:51 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: jdhljc169

They're going to pass a law saying the courts have to obey the law?!?!?!


25 posted on 04/18/2005 3:21:49 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: risk
Officers or agents of Federal, State, or local governments are sworn to support (whether or not acting in official or personal capacity), -- the Constitution as our supreme law.

Officer´s or agent´s who acknowledge God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government are at liberty to voice their religious opinions most anytime, -- however, when acting in an official capacity, common courtesy dictates discretion on such volatile & divisive issues.
26 posted on 04/18/2005 5:26:37 PM PDT by P_A_I
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To: jdhljc169

bump


27 posted on 04/19/2005 1:23:03 AM PDT by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: Gondring

Constitution ping!


28 posted on 04/19/2005 8:28:00 AM PDT by jan in Colorado
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To: Noachian
If the Congress ever wants to gets serious about reining in the Judiciary it should amend the Constitution to limit judges terms, and use "nullification" on those Supreme Court rulings it finds unconstitutional.

There can be no separation of powers when one branch of government assumes the mantle of overlord....


In other words, Congress should assume the mantle of overlord?
29 posted on 04/19/2005 8:33:27 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Pan_Yan
Let me know when congress can control their own constitutional excesses, much less reign in somebody else.

Methinks many posters have a short memory or have not lived long enough to recall the runaway legislative and executive branches that the liberals have fielded.

The real key, sad to say, is for the electorate to act smarter and be more active.

That being said, your tagline needs work. "Working people should forfeit the right to vote," said the heir. "Yes, yes! And idiots should forfeit the right to post," chimed in the moron.

30 posted on 04/19/2005 7:21:39 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: BikerNYC
In other words, Congress should assume the mantle of overlord?

No. Read the Constitution and you'll find that the Founders gave Congress the power to regulate the court system except for the Supreme Court itself.

This is an intentional check on the power of the courts, because the Founders knew the dangers of an unchecked and unsupervised court.

Because the Congress has failed to properly oversee the court we now find ourselves with a rogue court peopled with judges who think themselves above the law.

It's up to Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over the courts if it has any hope of stopping this nation from becoming a country ruled by judges.

Believe it or not there is a constitutional limit to judicial authority, but our Congress has forgotten it.

31 posted on 04/19/2005 8:31:17 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: BikerNYC

If the Congress ever wants to gets serious about reining in the Judiciary it should amend the Constitution to limit judges terms, and use "nullification" on those Supreme Court rulings it finds unconstitutional.

There can be no separation of powers when one branch of government assumes the mantle of overlord....

In other words, Congress should assume the mantle of overlord?

With a Veto proof majority it always has been the overlord of the executive. Why not over the judiciary ?!?!?


32 posted on 04/21/2005 12:38:44 AM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: jdhljc169

This bill should be completely unnecessary - but sometimes you have to spell things out is simple terms.


33 posted on 04/21/2005 5:53:32 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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