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Federal Elections Hampered by Machines
Associated Press ^ | 4-18-2005 | WILL LESTER

Posted on 04/18/2005 7:53:25 PM PDT by kingattax

WASHINGTON (AP) - Former President Carter and one-time Secretary of State James A. Baker on Monday rejected the notion that Democrats and Republicans have different interests in who gets to vote.

At the first meeting of a bipartisan commission examining federal election problems, the two co-chairs stressed the importance of a system with extensive access to voters and a minimum of fraud. Carter and Baker dismissed the argument that the two parties cannot agree on those goals.

"Many people have alleged that these are a Republican-versus-Democrat pair of issues," Carter told a news conference following the commission's initial session. They say "the Democrats want everybody to vote whether they're qualified or not, Republicans want to restrict voting to exclude minorities and others not inclined to vote."

Baker said, "We want the widest possible access, consistent with voter integrity."

Reaching consensus on how to achieve those goals may be the hard part. Some problems were addressed in the Help America Vote Act that Congress passed in 2002 and President Bush signed into law.

That measure called for modernizing voter registration systems, updating voter machines and improving voter education and poll worker training. States are supposed to meet specified guidelines in these areas by the beginning of next year but some are behind schedule.

Baker and Carter said there is more that can be done to improve elections.

Some issues that the commission wants to examine include:

_How to make voter registration rolls in one state compatible with another to make it easier to cross-check voter records.

_How to create a "paper trail" with electronic voting machines, which are generally more accurate than lever machines or punch cards but also have caused great suspicion because of the lack of paper to check the vote.

_Whether federal money allocated to states to improve voter systems in the 2002 law is a one-time occurrence or will be continued to make other improvements.

_The status of the 2002 law and how well it's being carried out in the states.

_The possibility of a national voter registration system with some kind of national identity card like a voter registration card or citizenship card.

Carter said it's important to learn why 40 percent of qualified voters do not cast ballots in presidential elections and why people are losing confidence in the integrity of the vote.

Carter headed a commission after the 2000 election along with former President Ford to make recommendations, some of which were included in the 2002 legislation.

Despite partisan differences on some of the voting problems, Baker said he's confident that more can be done.

Commission members on Monday heard from election officials, voting specialists, college professors, civil rights advocates and an advocate for the disabled.

They cited problems in recent federal elections with long lines, inadequate voting machines, unequal voting access for minorities, lack of access to voting for the disabled, and the need for a registration system so voter records can be quickly cross-checked between counties and other states.

The commission meets in June at the Baker Institute for Public Policy at Rice University in Houston and in August at the Carter Center. In September, it is scheduled to return to Washington to make recommendations.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: federalelections; stealingelections; stuffingtheballotbox; votefraud; votingmachines
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Jimmuh is lovin this i bet....jack*ss

1 posted on 04/18/2005 7:53:29 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
_The possibility of a national voter registration system with some kind of national identity card like a voter registration card or citizenship card.

Last I checked this is the "United States of America" not the "United State of America". As I recall the US Constitution guarantees a republican form of government.

2 posted on 04/18/2005 7:56:23 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: kingattax

It is getting more difficult to determine who is the bigger camera-hog, Mr. Peanut or Bubba.


3 posted on 04/18/2005 7:57:57 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: kingattax

Your link doesn't match the story
Do you have the correct link?


4 posted on 04/18/2005 7:58:38 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Paleo Conservative

Brit had John Fund on FOX discussing this. Good man, made excellent points, esp about privacy issues and the need to keep the Fed out of state business.

What we need is:

1) Transparent and open electronic voting, with a paper trail (yes DUmmies, we actually agree on this one)

2) Some type of voter ID system that prevents or at least minimizes voter fraud.


5 posted on 04/18/2005 8:00:00 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

http://www.davesdaily.com/out.php?id=4875&url=http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050415/2005-04-15T205527Z_01_N152872_RTRIDST_0_ODD-LEISURE-WENDYS-FINGER-DC.html

that should be it....thanks


6 posted on 04/18/2005 8:00:59 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: Paleo Conservative

that is an excellent point


7 posted on 04/18/2005 8:02:37 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

When are the people going to learn that the "touch screen" systems cost about ten times what an optical scan system costs - and they generally don't provide a credible paper trail????

When, for crying out loud?


8 posted on 04/18/2005 8:02:48 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: kingattax
When will this useless, half-witted sphincter ever stop spewing idiocy and hot air from his gaping cake hole?! He did little more than keep the chair warm until a real president was elected. There are planaria with more cajones and spine than this feckless crapweasel. He is the same git who stated that the revolutionary war was unnecessary. What an aging gasbag and senile poltroon.
9 posted on 04/18/2005 8:03:05 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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To: kingattax

that link goes to an article called

Wendy's Doubles Chili Finger Reward to $100,000


10 posted on 04/18/2005 8:05:03 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

i know....i gave the correct link in post #6....can you change it please ?


11 posted on 04/18/2005 8:05:56 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: Sidebar Moderator

or this is a better link :


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050419/D89I71JG1.html


12 posted on 04/18/2005 8:09:39 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Yes, that one is good
thank you


13 posted on 04/18/2005 8:10:45 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

finally.......sorry and thank you :)


14 posted on 04/18/2005 8:11:24 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
What a colossal mismatch.
15 posted on 04/18/2005 8:13:51 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: jackbill
When are the people going to learn that the "touch screen" systems cost about ten times what an optical scan system costs - and they generally don't provide a credible paper trail????

What do we care? Its guvment money. Let's have both.

16 posted on 04/18/2005 8:32:44 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Fenris6
with a paper trail (yes DUmmies, we actually agree on this one)

A paper trail causes its own problems. What if the paper trail numbers disagree with the electronic numbers? If the paper number wins, there will be democrats desparately manufacturing paper trails in close elections. If the paper number does not win, why bother, it just gives rats something to whine about after they have faked a paper trail.

The reason the DUmmies want a paper trail is to enable their reps to be able to engage in such shenanigans. It is no coincidence that, in 2002, in precincts where there was machine recorded voting, Republicans did better than the exit polls while in precincts where the rats could still jimmy things up, we didn't. Don't give them wiggle room.

17 posted on 04/18/2005 8:34:31 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: kingattax
Carter said it's important to learn ... why people are losing confidence in the integrity of the vote.

In King County Washington and across the Country Democrats claim an entitlement to add ballots to the count even if the voter doesn't bother to register, mail in a ballot or even show up at the polls. Naturally all such ballots voted exclusively Democrat.

18 posted on 04/18/2005 8:36:07 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Carter said it's important to learn ... why people are losing confidence in the integrity of the vote.

Gee, dumuss, think it may have something to do with ignorant comments like the one below?

Carter told a news conference following the commission's initial session. They say "the Democrats want everybody to vote whether they're qualified or not, Republicans want to restrict voting to exclude minorities and others not inclined to vote."

What a POCrap! Who appointed this "commission?"

19 posted on 04/18/2005 9:23:15 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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