Posted on 04/19/2005 5:19:12 PM PDT by wagglebee
RUSH: We have microphones in the Vatican. Let's JIP it.
CARDINAL / TRANSLATOR: My dearest brothers and sisters. (cheers) My dearest brothers and sisters. (cheers) My dearest brothers and sisters.
RUSH: He's speaking in a bunch of different languages, for those of you in Rio Linda. There's nothing wrong here.
CARDINAL: I announce to you a great joy. (cheers) We have a pope! (cheers) The most eminent and most reverent Lord Joseph (chimes) of the holy Roman Catholic church, Cardinal Ratzinger! (roars)
RUSH: So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. From Germany, the new pope is Joseph Ratzinger. He was tight, he was very close -- theologically, ideologically -- with Pope John Paul II. This is going to send the left into conniption fits. I want you to listen last night, PMSNBC on Hardball with Chris Matthews, former John Kerry senior advisor and very consistent presidential campaign loser, Bob Shrum was the guest, and Matthews says (the Democrats are out campaigning for a liberal pope), "You heard Joseph Ratzinger, the dean of the College of the College of Cardinals today give his sermon, tough conservative sermon, wasn't it?"
SHRUM: It was. The speech this morning which denounced the modern world, liberalism, individualism, contrasted very sharply with, for me, with the speech with which Pope John the XXIII (gasp) opened the Second Vatican Council where he said, "We must beware of the voices of doom and gloom, that all we see evil in the modern world and in change we must encounter the modern world. We must open up to it. We must make the faith relevant for people." So it was a campaign speech for a very cons -- in my view, very conservative candidacy which I assume Cardinal Ratzinger believes absolutely. RUSH: Yes, he does, and this is not going to sit well. All last night on this program they were upset. They couldn't believe the church is not going to "modernize"! They can't believe the church is not going to become "relevant to the faithful." They can't believe that they're not going to get away from all of this stuff, this archaic stuff from the past and not become "modern," and yet, ladies and gentlemen, exactly what the left told you the church needed to do, the church did the exact opposite. Exactly what the American media has been suggesting, has been hoping, has been praying -- uh, they don't pray -- asking the Catholic Church to do, demanding that the Catholic do the Catholic church has done just the opposite. The church, in their view, has not modernized. The church in their view has not become more relevant to the faithful. The church has not accepted liberal ideas. What you're seeing today if you could look at this through a pair of liberal eyes, they see a competing chief justice of a supreme court that is more powerful than theirs that has just been named pope, and there's nothing they can do to filibuster it.
RUSH: (Wang Chung Bump) Cardinal Ratzinger has chosen the name Pope Benedict the XVI. Pope Benedict XVI. Check his age. He's 78 years old. I'm just going to predict to you the media is going to say, "This is a holding pattern for the church. The church chose somebody who won't be around for that long, certainly as long as John Paul II so," and they'll say, "The decision came rather quickly, too, as though the church wanted to maintain its profile, but we all know they really wanted to pick a pope from Nigeria. They really wanted to pick a pope from Latin America. They reeeeally wanted to pick a pope from wherever." So, he'll be hailed as a stopgap here, and the talk will continue. "I think this indicates the church actually does want to modernize. The church actually does want to liberalize, but they don't want to go about it gradually. They couldn't just go from John Paul II to the new modern liberal pope that we all knew was coming. So Ratzinger is there, Pope Benedict the XVI, as a holding partner, so to speak." So the talk will continue about what the church must do, since the church has not done what the left in this country and the world has demanded; since the church has not done what the media has asked and suggested, the church will continue to be disparaged and criticized. Here's Conrad in Queens. Conrad, welcome to the program. Great to have you on the EIB Network.
CALLER: Hello, Rush. It's a pleasure, sir.
RUSH: Hello. Thank you, sir.
CALLER: Rush I know you believe in substance over symbolism but I can't help but remark over the importance of the fact that they announced the election of a new pope right as your show came on the air, and you announced to your audience the fact that we didn't have a new pope. Do you have any sense of a --
RUSH: The timing is coincidental, maybe so pointed as to be beyond coincidence is what you're saying?
CALLER: I don't believe in random chance, Rush, when it comes to important events in our life. I believe in causal relationship.
RUSH: Mmm.
CALLER: You believe in life; the church believes in life. You believe in freedom; the church believes in freedom.
RUSH: Interesting. I hadn't considered this, sir, but I'll certainly throw it into the hopper and consider it. That's a very interesting point of view. I'm very much, of course, accustomed to President Bush ending press conferences in time for this program to begin, that, we have a deal. But I have not spoken to anybody at the Vatican about this, and if this happened as you suggest...? Well, I'll let others speculate on this, ladies and gentlemen, and not throw my own two cents in. I appreciate the call, Conrad.
So the left no doubt depressed as they can be with the selection of the new pope. There will be no new surprises discovered from the Bible, no discovery in the Bible of the right or duty to have an abortion. The new pope is obviously trouble for the enlightened.
I don't doubt it. I agree with the balance of your comment.
Classic!"
I don't think Rush was "speaking for American Catholics," but for American "CONSERVATIVES!"
Do you have a prob with that, or are ONLY Catholics (of which I are one) allowed to speak for--or defend--us or the Church against the left/libs diatribe?
As far as the "thrice divorced, drug addicted entertainer" slur, I would say to you: Al Franken or Michael Moore, could not have expressed a more laconic invective, if they tried.
Perhaps, you should take a leave of absence and go listen to Air America?
He didn't cheat on his wife, but inbetween his first entrance to Hollywood and his renewal of committment to Christ years later, he wasn't the type of person you'd typically associate with the image of the "red state Bible belt".
It just amuses me the way God works. The Heartland despises Hollywood, and yet a member of the in crowd of Hollywood produces the most Faithful movie in generations. And he's a Catholic, where it might have been assumed this type of production would have been put forth by an evangelical.
Yeah, but Rush has yet to let an innocent girl drown.
Those Catholics have some nerve pre-empting most of the first hour of the Rush Limbaugh radio show today. LOL!
In retrospect, I misspoke. There in no "enemy" per se, the left is the source of anti-Christian, anti-God secularism, they are proponents of the Cult of Death and the exposure of their fallacies is the duty of Christianity.
Slur? just the facts.
JMHO - Rush is no more a role model for conservatives, or an example of a good conservative man than Al Frankin.
He gets paid based on the attention he gets for himself by broadcasting on the airwaves, and without that attention he is just a man, who speaks only for himself.
If you think he speaks for you, that is your option.
Perhaps you should speak for yourself. I'd wager you're probably a better man, conservative, and American than most.........including rush.
As with many items of faith, they haven't the slightest clue of what they speak of. ;-)
Right and Wrong are absolutes. It's a given as a fallen creation we will choose wrong over right in our weakness at points in our life. Right and Wrong remain constant even if we do not. God gave us his Word to distinguish each. And, he gave us a conscience. That little voice inside that isn't easily silenced.
The nature of Right and Wrong doesn't alter when we fail to perfectly embody His Will. It only proves our need for Christ to redeem us from this acknowledged sin. If we were not able to discern sin, than we also wouldn't understand out need for a Savior.
Would defeat God's entire purpose for allowing his Son to be crucified if we were incapable of understanding why it had to occur.
Yeah, but Rush has yet to let an innocent girl drown.
Right!
As far as I know, he's never become a "Cardinal" either.
If the Republicans were in charge of picking a new Pope, the Cardinals would be taking a three week vacation to thin it over and then coming back to the Sistine Chapel to continue their selection process.
It would be interisting to see who the Catholic Democrats are and see their comments. Lets begin with Kennedy.
Actually, he does have a checkered past, debauched nearly to the point of suicide in the early 1990's. His journey up from there is what has made him what he is today.
With all due respect, that is dead wrong. There is an enemy, it's just that the bulk of the liberal hand-wringers have been tricked into his service. It is right to attempt to save these dupes, but it is wrong to infer from that that the enemy is not real.
The left will just divert themselves to aboandoning the effort to rewite religion and they will go to rewrite the constitution.
I bet the left will try and use the Treaty power of the US government to rewrite the constitution by bypassing the constitution.
(what is "is")
Go to DU if you want to know , it's a riot over there. Most are on suicide watch I think.
I could find no evidence of faith over there. Just bitterness and resentment for anyone who has any. I really feel sorry for them, they are so unhappy with life and the world around them.
There was a moroness on one of the cable shows tonite who noted that Christ never explicitly mentioned abortion, fagotry, or birth control.
He never mentioned welfare, diversity or multiculturalism either. The left sure lifts them up as tenent of goodness though.
It amazes me at how those who don't believe in God can sure tell us who do just what God wants for us!!!
Seriously, I never remember the conservatives going this far down when Clinton was re-elected.
This is the POPE, it is not like an american politican elected or amendment was passed. Yet, the leftits are in kooky mode.
Why? Do they believe their ideas are beyond redemption?
I think that the left invested SO MUCH effort in obtaining personal power via the democrat/socialist party of the usa the falure of that plan is having serious impact. It is not that they think they should have infultrated the Republicans, the result would have been the same. THEIR IDEAS HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE REJECTED. The left is being exposed and exposure results in their diminishing power.
They know their ideas are unsellable. This is why Dr. (silent) Dean is trying to change words but not actions. This is why Hitlary is TALKING to the right (but still acts to the left).
They have every reason to be down, in the comencement of life, the left did not graduate.
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