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Soros says be patient ('massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks')
The Hill ^ | 4/20/05 | Hans Nichols

Posted on 04/19/2005 7:32:27 PM PDT by Cableguy

George Soros told a carefully vetted gathering of 70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires last weekend that they must be patient if they want to realize long-term political and ideological yields from an expected massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks.

The Scottsdale, Ariz., meeting, called to start the process of building an ideas production line for liberal politicians, began what organizers hope will be a long dialogue with the “partners,” many from the high-tech industry. Participants have begun to refer to themselves as the Phoenix Group.

Rob Stein, a veteran of President Bill Clinton’s Commerce Department and of New York investment banking, convened the meeting of venture capitalists, left-leaning moneymen and a select few D.C. strategists on how to seed pro-Democratic think tanks, media outlets and leadership schools to compete with such entrenched conservative institutions as the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute and the Leadership Institute.

Senior Democratic National Committee (DNC) officials were quietly briefed about the meeting in recent weeks. DNC Chairman Howard Dean was aware of it, in part though his friendship with Stein, but one senior DNC source said the organizers “kept that list [of attendees] kind of tight.”

Sarah Ingersoll, de facto spokeswoman for Stein’s Democracy Alliance, said it was “a very preliminary meeting of committed donors interested in building a community to support progressive infrastructure.”

The Democracy Alliance will act as a clearinghouse and is expected to channel much of its money to new organizations and existing ones such as John Podesta’s Center for American Progress and David Brock’s Media Matters for America.

The money details are several weeks away. “There aren’t dollar figures at this point,” Ingersoll said. Soros, a Hungarian-born financier who donated more than $23 million to pro-Democratic 527 groups last cycle, gave the main presentation, said Ingersoll, who declined to name the other presenters.

“Primarily, we’re looking at making recommendations and thinking through with these donors on how they can form an alliance,” she added. “This is about creating a network of individuals to share information to be effective in whatever they do going forward.”

Participants were tight-lipped, saying they wanted to keep media expectations low, even suggesting that the Scottsdale gathering was too insignificant to report. Other participants included former White House press secretary Mike McCurry and New Democrat Network president Simon Rosenberg. Andy Rappaport, a Silicon Valley venture capitalist and reliable investor in liberal causes, did not attend the meeting, his spokeswomen said.

Ingersoll said funding transparency is a priority, which she said would contrast with some right-wing groups.

But transparency was not on display among the Scottsdale participants contacted by The Hill. Details of the meeting remained sparse.

Most of the participants had already seen Stein’s slick presentation titled “The Conservative Message Machine’s Money Matrix,” which lays out how right-leaning donors have funded and invested in organization that churn out conservative ideas. Stein unveiled his presentation at the Democratic National Convention in Boston last year, at an event hosted by Rosenberg and NDN.

Ingersoll denied that progressives are merely trying to replicate Heritage and Fox News.

Another source at the meeting said that it was important for existing progressive groups to coordinate their activities and to avoid the turf wars that have riven progressive causes in the past.

One source at the DNC with direct knowledge of the agenda said that the Phoenix Group had three specific goals at the outset. It wants to create liberal think tanks, training camps for young progressives and media centers.

Despite the general recognition that progressives are several years behind conservatives, liberal activists are confident that technology will help them close the gap. “Technology may allow us to do in a few years what it took the other side 40 years,” the DNC source said.

But the Phoenix Group is not beholden to the political calendar, and several sources insisted that four-year electoral exigencies were not motivating the project. Indeed, part of the reasoning in keeping D.C. consultants away from Scottsdale was to shield the high-tech donor base from political operatives, who are always eager for quick dollars to buy media points and fund direct mail.

“This is bigger than that,” the DNC source said


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To: muawiyah
The old Union of Soviet Socialist Republics invested tens of billions of dollars and millions of lives in their attempt to develop some sort of coherent leftwing policy book. They abandoned it as worse than useless after 70 years of struggle. Soros is a fool if he thinks he can do better.

Hmm, but the Soviets did have quite a bit of success in the realm of propaganda with relatively small expenditures of cash.

I greatly fear that Soros will get cooperation from some of our "allies" in Europe to influence elections here. Seeing as France was willing to create the "yellowcake" forgeries to try and stll the Iraq war effort, it isn't as if they are opposed to such actions in theory...
21 posted on 04/19/2005 7:42:57 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton)
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To: Cableguy

22 posted on 04/19/2005 7:44:53 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Despite the general recognition that progressives are several years behind conservatives, liberal activists are confident that technology will help them close the gap. “Technology may allow us to do in a few years what it took the other side 40 years,” the DNC source said.

I would guess the Goldwater campaign. What we call conservatism was devastated by the Great Depression and really didn't rise to imporatance as an ideology again until the 1964 campaign.
23 posted on 04/19/2005 7:45:12 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton)
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To: Cableguy

good luck!

to win they're going to have to convince americans, for example, that child molesters belong on the streets, that gay marriage is a good, that commuting on buses and trains is more efficient than by cars, etc.

any way you look at it, they have a losing agenda.


24 posted on 04/19/2005 7:45:55 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: muawiyah

Soros is a fool if he thinks he can do better.




Actually, Soros is just a fool. Period.


25 posted on 04/19/2005 7:49:07 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; Donna Lee Nardo; WestCoastGal; Tuba Guy; SevenofNine; ...

Ping


26 posted on 04/19/2005 7:49:43 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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To: Cableguy
Soros says be patient

Yeah, you libs: Heed the command of Soros your master.

Be a patient.

Check yourselves into a clinical ward for inpatient care. You all are sick in the brain and need serious medical treatment.

27 posted on 04/19/2005 7:49:55 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Surgeon General Warning: Being Democrat is bad for your health.)
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To: Petronski

The last line of the article sent shiver up my spine-

"This is bigger than that", one DNC spokesman said"

Did any of you see O'Reilly tonight? He had on a guy from the University of Chicago Law School, and he is one of the members of Soros' group that he put together at Yale to write a New Constitution of the United States---

What this guy was saying was outright socialism--Bill asked him if they believed in private property, and they guy said something like, "Yes, as long as people share the land with others"---Huh? He was weird but it totally sounds like from those who have much to those who have none, to me!!!

Soros is scary, and ole Harry Reid is imitating him with his "war room" in the Senate building with a bunch of new aides and running commercials blasting PEOPLE like Bolton for no factual reason--


28 posted on 04/19/2005 7:50:29 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice!)
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29 posted on 04/19/2005 7:53:21 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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To: Cableguy
George Soros told a carefully vetted gathering of 70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires last weekend that they must be patient if they want to realize long-term political and ideological yields from an expected massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks.

Since "liberal intellectual" is oxymoronic, "progressive think tank" is a term of nonsense. What they really need is more media outlets. There ought to be a law, though, that such as Air America is anathema while driving. Too many drivers sleep away their lives as it is.

30 posted on 04/19/2005 7:58:23 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Mamzelle; windchime; Certified Horticulturist; Fedora; nicmarlo; backhoe; Liz; Cableguy

>>>Ingersoll denied that progressives are merely trying to replicate Heritage and Fox News.

Replicate? I take this as a declaration of war.

They want to enter a discrediting mud sling battle.


31 posted on 04/19/2005 7:58:44 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

32 posted on 04/19/2005 7:59:50 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton, even her friends don't like her.)
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To: Cableguy

Wouldn't Sorry Soros been smarter to have just passed out hundred dollar bills in Ohio in November...hmmmmmmm


33 posted on 04/19/2005 8:00:37 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Or rather a raving lunatic.

Well, as they say: "they are easily parted."

34 posted on 04/19/2005 8:00:39 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Vision Thing
"Be patient..."

That was my first thought: MENTAL PATIENTS!

Next Dr. Soros will be telling 'em: "Now shut up and take your thorzene!"

35 posted on 04/19/2005 8:02:45 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Cableguy
massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks.

This is what "Campaign Finance Reform" gets you. Instead of people donating openly to the parties, and having the money logged, money gets donated to a myriad of no-name fronts that can be deniably independent of the party.

Great work, guys.

36 posted on 04/19/2005 8:02:45 PM PDT by marron
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To: Cableguy
Soros will be the greatest gift to the Republicans in 2006 and 2008. The more power he yields over the Democrat party the better shape we are. His extreme kooky left wing liberal views will destroy the Democrat party for a very long time.
37 posted on 04/19/2005 8:04:36 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: muawiyah
Soros is a fool if he thinks he can do better.

He is THE FOOL.

38 posted on 04/19/2005 8:05:54 PM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: onyx
I see darkness in Sorasses future

Call me petty .. but at the moment, I want to see him broke and homeless

39 posted on 04/19/2005 8:07:38 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Cableguy

Progressive Think Tanks = oxymoron.


40 posted on 04/19/2005 8:08:00 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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