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DAVID ROSEN (the man who will turn on Hillary)
Chicago Business dot com ^ | 4-2005 | Paul Merrion

Posted on 04/22/2005 8:34:16 PM PDT by doug from upland

David Rosen President and CEO Competence Group Inc. AGE: 35

The 10 summers David Rosen spent ringing doorbells to sell books turned out to be good preparation for raising tens of millions of dollars for the Gore-Lieberman ticket, Hillary Clinton's Senate race and other prominent Democratic candidates.

At Southwestern Co., a Nashville, Tenn.-based direct sales firm that has trained thousands of college students during its 132-year history, Mr. Rosen got to the point where he made sales at five of every six households he called on. He still holds the record for first-year sales, according to Dan Moore, Southwestern's marketing vice-president. The firm's alumni include two current governors, a senator and former Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth Starr.

"He's the most dedicated, hard-working, organized person I've met in a long time," say Chicago lawyer Myron "Mike" Cherry, a veteran Democratic fund-raiser and general counsel for the gubernatorial campaign of Rep. Rod Blagojevich, D-Chicago, for which Mr. Rosen has helped raise about $1 million outside Illinois. "And he's got a Rolodex that would rival (former President) Clinton's," Mr. Cherry says.

What sets Mr. Rosen and his Chicago-based company, Competence Group Inc., apart is his application of business discipline, training and sales techniques to the art of fund raising.

"I can't talk someone into giving money," says Mr. Rosen. "You just have to call a tremendous amount of people and find those who are interested."

He caught the political bug while taking a political science course taught by David Wilhelm, a longtime Chicago-based political consultant who chairs the Blagojevich campaign.

Mr. Rosen credits his success to Southwestern's rigorous training.

"You can use it whether you're selling airplanes, insurance or politicians," he says.

PAUL MERRION


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2000campaign; corruptdems; crook; davidrosen; fortmarcypark; graybarmotel; hillary; hillaryscandals; jailtime; prison; spillthebeans; stripes
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1 posted on 04/22/2005 8:34:23 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: All
Turn on Hillary, David. They have you nailed.


2 posted on 04/22/2005 8:35:20 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

Dick Morris supposedly turned on the Clintons.

Now the rumor is he's been their operative all along. Biggest political spy in modern times.


3 posted on 04/22/2005 8:35:55 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: doug from upland

DAVID ROSEN (the man who will turn on Hillary)

Scared me for a moment. I guess it really means he will turn against Hillary. The mental picture the headline created in me was horrific.

4 posted on 04/22/2005 8:36:14 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Dilbert56

I really wish you hadn't posted that.


5 posted on 04/22/2005 8:38:06 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You would have to double your IQ to be stupid. " --zip)
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To: doug from upland

As a matter of fact, I made my first post on FR (and nearly got banned) for stating my belief that Zell Miller - who pledged Clinton loyalty in '92 - is still their loyal tool. He only wanted Kerry to lose so that Hillary can run in '08. I still believe this.


6 posted on 04/22/2005 8:38:11 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Dilbert56

I don't think n power plant has enough juice to turn on that icebox.


7 posted on 04/22/2005 8:39:43 PM PDT by HappyCapitalist
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To: SteveMcKing

Then you don't know Zell.


8 posted on 04/22/2005 8:40:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: SteveMcKing

Zell is a long-time conservative Dem. He's not going to support Hillary.


9 posted on 04/22/2005 8:42:30 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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Clinton, Rosen, Tonken
Joel Miller January 10, 2005


The Hillary Clinton/David Rosen/Aaron Tonken story is exploding. Rush was talking about it today, as was the editorial page of the New York Sun. And NPR even covered it Sunday, tying in the charity-scam angle with tsunami charitable giving.

But the real scuttlebutt is Hillary Clinton. Probing the question of Hillary's involvement in monies spent on the Hollywood Gala that honored her husband and dumped loads of possibly illegally reported cash into her Senate campaign coffers, Rush Limbaugh today summed up the question simply:

When the Clintons are involved and there is a scandal, is it easier to believe they know about it or they don't know about it? Is it easier to believe they're in on it or not in on it? We had Travelgate. We had Whitewater. We had Lewinsky. We had Paula Jones. All of these scandals. . . . I'm telling you, folks, wise behavior here is to take previous experience guided by intelligence and come to a conclusion. The conclusion is, a scandal-ridden bunch like this, there's another scandal, is it logical to assume they don't know anything about it? Is it logical to assume that one of their cohorts is turning on them and trying to screw 'em? Is it logical to believe that they're just innocent bystanders in all this? No it's not logical to believe that in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Based on Aaron Token's recollection of events, Limbaugh is exactly right. Writes Aaron on page 283 of King of Cons, "I went along [with Rosen]. I didn't know any better. Eventually, I would become a lot more familiar with Federal Election Commission requirements and see exactly how much misreporting had been done on things I was involved with. Tons." At the time, though, Aaron says he had to trust Rosen—albeit not completely, it turns out. "Concerned that some day this stuff might come back to haunt me, I saved all the receipts." He did, and he later turned over more than two dozen boxes of documents to the Feds to back up his story.

But back to the junior senator from New York. To how much of the alleged shenanigans was she privy? "Did she really know what was going on?" Aaron writes on 350 and 351. "I think David Rosen knew; I think [longtime aide] Kelly Craighead knew; I think [fund-raiser] Jim Levin knew. But Hillary? It was very possible that they hid it from her. In a way, that was their job. Protect the candidate."

But they didn't do a good job. Flip ahead to pages 365 and 366:

I'd spent odd moments alone with [Hillary] before, primarily in the evening at the White House. But this was my real shot to talk to her with no one else around, and what I wanted was to let her know how much I admired her, how much I was behind her, and most important, what I had already done for her. It was, quite by accident, the moment of truth. . . .
I told her about virtually every penny I'd spent on her behalf. I let her know what I was doing and had done for each event of hers. I spoke about the money and what a pleasure and honor it was to spend it on her candidacy for the U.S. Senate.

Once and for all, I wanted it clear in her mind who was the person really doing things for her. There was so much jockeying for position among those around her: Kelly, David, Jim Levin, and so on. People taking credit for stuff. I thought I might have been short-changed, and I wanted to correct that.

I believed that once she knew the facts, she would see how valuable I was to her and welcome me into her inner circle. The whole thing was intended to be solely for my benefit. I never wanted to hurt her. I could tell she wasn't entirely comfortable with this conversation, and yet I couldn't stop. It wasn't until much later that I fully realized what I had done. Whatever protection her staff had built around her, however much in the dark they had kept her, that was over.

Now she knew.


Did Hillary say, "Whoa, Nelly! Desist! Halt! Stop!"? Did she tell Rosen to rectify the matter on the campaign finance reports? Did she warn others about Aaron? Apparently not.

King of Cons features reproductions of thank-you letters Hillary wrote Aaron. Others exist that couldn't for space considerations be included. Bill Clinton was closely involved in a future Tonken project, A Family Celebration 2001 (ironic, considering that Bill's idea of family is loose enough to include the White House intern pool). Clinton was also pleased to receive checks totaling $300,000 from Aaron for his presidential foundation—copies of the checks are reproduced in the book. King of Cons also includes copies of Rosen's Beverly Hills Hotel bill for the event. Total: $9,280.58. But it's more than campaign finance.

The entire hypocritical leftist galaxy of Hollywood gets a salacious send-up in King of Cons. From Aaron's days as a virtual prisoner of Zsa-Zsa Gabor, to getting chiseled by Sylvester Stallone, to run-ins with Cher, Lance Bass, Roseanne, Barbra Streisand, the cast of Friends, Melanie Griffith, Sharon Stone—it's hilarious, tragic, absurd, awful, and incredible. And with David Rosen's indictment and further exploration into Hillary's involvement, it's also politically explosive. (Updated, 8:26pm CST.)


10 posted on 04/22/2005 8:42:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: SteveMcKing

sending you a tinfoil hat. Just in case the sky really is falling!


11 posted on 04/22/2005 8:44:17 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SteveMcKing

Nah, don't forget what Morris really is. He could see where his political future was and where the money was. As an added plus, the Clinton's treated him like dirt. Come to think of it, Maybe that will be the reason Rosen flips.


12 posted on 04/22/2005 8:44:40 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Don't let them Bork Bolton!)
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To: doug from upland; lonestar

What was Zell doing at the DNC in '92, using the same conviction to make a speech endorsing Bill Clinton over George Bush? He never retracted that. There's only one way out of the Clinton cult - your untimely grave.


13 posted on 04/22/2005 8:46:27 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: doug from upland

If anyone squeals on Hillary, but the MSM doesn't cover it, does it still ake a noise? NO...the MSM will NEVER cover this....never.


14 posted on 04/22/2005 8:46:29 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: All

January 11, 2005
Post Trauma Syndrome
It must be pretty tough being a Liberal nowadays. Look back at 2004 and you see a stunning electoral defeat, in spite of the fact that CBS producer Mary Mapes and all the bulging foreheads down at the New York Times were doing their level best to put your boy John Kerry in the White House. Look ahead to 2008 and you see Hillary burdened with the albatross of David Rosen--her campaign-finance director in 2000--who has just been indicted for shady fund raising practices. Today's New York Post lays it all out with admirable clarity.

In "Another Hillary Scandal", Dick Morris lays out the time line so well that the prosecutor's work is nearly done. According to Morris, by September of 2000 Republican Rick Lazio had closed in on Hillary's lead and had also raised a large amount of hard money. Knowing Hillary was both an outspoken enemy of soft money and a huge recipient of same, Lazio "invaded her space" during a televised debate, brandishing a pen and demanding she sign a pledge to receive no more soft money. Though shying back as if she had been physically threatened, Hillary signed.

With very little hard money in the campaign coffers, it looked as if Hillary had signed away the election as well.

While her defenders hit the talking-head circuit to portray Lazio as an abusive white male, David Rosen quietly undereported the cost of a recent Hollywood fundraiser for Hillary to the FEC, thus giving the campaign $280,000 in extra hard money. The legal, non-Arkansas way to raise that kind of cash would be to get 280 donors to write 280 $1000 checks. No big deal. The illegal way is a bit trickier. Morris writes out of his considerable campaign experience when he notes, '"A decision of this magnitude--how much to say the event cost--would have been a huge issue within the campaign."

Morris concludes, "If young David Rosen wants to take the fall for Hillary and join the likes of Web Hubbell and Susan MacDougal who chose to languish in prison rather than tell the truth, that is his decision. But don't ask us to believe something the average 8-year-old knows can't be true - that a gain to the campaign of $280,000.00 was beneath Hillary's notice."


15 posted on 04/22/2005 8:47:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland
JFK JR would have been POTUS in 2012 if he didn't kill himself first.

Gee, I failed the bar exam 4 times, let me try flying a high speed dual engine airplane on instruments,at night, after all, I'm a Kennedy.

BILLARY! might look like a problem now but by 2008 JFK Jr will be more viable

16 posted on 04/22/2005 8:47:18 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: SteveMcKing

Dick Morris is a double agent for sure.


17 posted on 04/22/2005 8:47:24 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SteveMcKing

Zell thought that Clinton was a more conservative Democrat, and he had hope for him. Clinton totally disappointed him. No, Zell is going to rip Hillary.


18 posted on 04/22/2005 8:48:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Dilbert56
The mental picture the headline created in me was horrific.

OMG, me too!

I'm now searching for a pointy stick with which I can run and poke out my mental eye :)

19 posted on 04/22/2005 8:48:55 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dilbert56; Slings and Arrows

That was the way I took it also.

Turning on Hillary....ewwwwww.....


20 posted on 04/22/2005 8:49:27 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: doug from upland

Didn't David Wilhelm work for the Clintons also???


21 posted on 04/22/2005 8:50:08 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Hillary's finance chief indicted for L.A. gala
David Rosen faces 20 years for filing fictitious reports on Hollywood soiree

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raiser for the senator.

The indictment charges David Rosen with four counts of filing false reports with the Federal Election Commission. The charges focus on an Aug. 12, 2000, dinner and concert supported by more than $1.1 million in "in-kind contributions" – goods and services provided for free or below cost. The event was estimated to cost more than $1.2 million.

Rosen is the second figure involved in organizing the soiree for Clinton to become entangled in legal problems as a result.


Aaron Tonken is currently in prison for his role in organizing the event – a tribute to then-President Bill Clinton and starring Cher, Patti LaBelle, Sugar Ray, Toni Braxton, Melissa Etheridge, Michael Bolton, Paul Anka and Diana Ross.

Tonken has authored a tell-all book, "King of Cons: Exposing the Dirty, Rotten Secrets of the Washington Elite and Hollywood Celebrities," on his role in the fraud.

The FBI previously said in court papers that it had evidence the former first lady's campaign deliberately understated its fund-raising costs so it would have more money to spend on her campaign.

While the event allegedly cost more than $1.2 million, the indictment said, Rosen reported contributions of about $400,000, knowing the figure to be false.

The indictment charged that he provided some documents to an FEC compliance officer but withheld the true costs of the event and provided false documents to substantiate the lower figure.

In one instance, Rosen obtained and delivered a fraudulent invoice stating the cost of a concert associated with the gala was $200,000 when he knew that figure was false, according to the indictment. The actual cost of the concert was more than $600,000.

Each of the four counts of making a false statement carries a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines upon conviction.

Mrs. Clinton's lawyer on campaign finance matters, David Kendall, told the Associated Press: "The Senate Campaign Committee has fully cooperated with the investigation. Mr. Rosen worked hard for the campaign, and we trust that when all the facts are in, he will be cleared."

The businessman who hosted the event, Peter Paul, has told federal authorities that it cost more than $1 million and that he had been surprised when he saw that most of the contributions were not reported.

The money from the fund-raiser went to Mrs. Clinton's successful campaign for a Senate seat from New York, the Democrats' national Senate campaign organization and a state Democratic Party committee.

During former President Clinton's administration, a Justice Department campaign finance task force charged more than two dozen individuals and two corporations with fund-raising abuses from the 1996 election cycle. Many of the charges involved Democratic fund raising.

In addition to his Clinton effort, Rosen has raised money for several other high-profile Democratic candidates, including former presidential hopeful Wesley Clark. Most recently, he was named to the fund-raising team of Donnie Fowler, a candidate for the Democratic National Committee chairmanship.

Tonken, 34 at the time of the 2000 fund-raiser, basked in his role in organizing the fund-raiser, never imaging he'd be facing down government investigators within a couple of years.

Writes Tonken in describing the departure of the Clintons the night of the gala: "Just before they got into the limo, I handed the president gifts from me, Stan Lee and Peter Paul: for him, a custom humidor and a handmade gold watch worth tens of thousands; for Hillary, a necklace that cost eight grand. The first lady disliked it and later sent it back.

"Before my car arrived, I had my last fond glimpses of this gathering of the rich and famous. I watched them drive off into the night. I may have been the ultimate outsider growing up, but not any more. Now I was in, and they were my people.

"But not for long. In less than three years I'd be busted. Instead of chronicling my stunning successes, Variety's Army Archerd would be writing about my criminal misdeeds; I'd be talking not to presidents and movie stars, but to the FBI and other federal agencies, handing over more than two dozen boxes of letters, e-mails, receipts and invoices, cooperating as the government pursued a multifaceted investigation into the corruption that lay hidden behind all the glitter."

Tonken pleaded guilty last year to one count of mail fraud and one count of wire fraud in hopes of ultimately getting a lesser prison sentence. Instead, he was sentenced to 63 months in prison and ordered to pay $3.79 million to donors and event underwriters whom he bilked.

He clearly implicated Rosen.

"David Rosen, Hillary Clinton's director of finance, worked out of our offices and knew about every dime that was being spent," he writes. "More than that, he participated in the spending."

In his account of his dealings with Hillary, Tonken mentions how grateful she had been to him for all his help with her campaign. But how much did she know about the financial skullduggery?

"One thing about Hillary, she was very attentive to the little details," he writes. "I believe she is genuinely considerate in that way. The very next day [after the Hollywood fund-raiser], she sent me a thank-you note, partially handwritten, in which she said: 'Your ongoing support of my Senate candidacy is especially important to me, and I am grateful for your continued friendship.'

"Take a good, long look at the first half of that last sentence. I did, and it made me wonder: Did she really know what was going on? I think David Rosen knew; I think [longtime aide] Kelly Craighead knew; I think [fund-raiser] Jim Levin knew. But Hillary? It was very possible that they hid it from her. In a way, that was their job. Protect the candidate.

"That was all about to change."

Tonken later writes he explained what he was doing and how to the Senate candidate while the two were alone briefly in a van during a day of campaigning in L.A.:

"I'd spent odd moments alone with [Hillary] before, primarily in the evening at the White House. But this was my real shot to talk to her with no one else around, and what I wanted was to let her know how much I admired her, how much I was behind her, and most important, what I had already done for her. It was, quite by accident, the moment of truth. ...

"I told her about virtually every penny I'd spent on her behalf. I let her know what I was doing and had done for each event of hers. I spoke about the money and what a pleasure and honor it was to spend it on her candidacy for the U.S. Senate.

"Once and for all, I wanted it clear in her mind who was the person really doing things for her. There was so much jockeying for position among those around her: Kelly, David, Jim Levin, and so on. People taking credit for stuff. I thought I might have been short-changed, and I wanted to correct that.

"I believed that once she knew the facts, she would see how valuable I was to her and welcome me into her inner circle. The whole thing was intended to be solely for my benefit. I never wanted to hurt her. I could tell she wasn't entirely comfortable with this conversation, and yet I couldn't stop. It wasn't until much later that I fully realized what I had done. Whatever protection her staff had built around her, however much in the dark they had kept her, that was over.

"Now she knew."

Further implicating Rosen, Tonken writes of how he would run his schemes by the finance director and would routinely get the go-ahead.

Writes Tonken: "Since I had only a passing acquaintance with campaign-finance law. If there was any question in my mind, I'd call David. The problem was, whenever I asked for advice he would invariably laugh off my concerns and say, 'Don't worry. Just raise as much as possible. Just keep at it.'

"Here's an example: I came up with what I thought was a great idea to make it look as though support were coming from a lot of little donors, instead of one big one. I proposed that [Democratic donor] Cynthia [Gershman] would write a check for 40 grand, which she was willing to do, and I would run it through one of my accounts and emerge with cash and started giving it out in one-thousand- or two-thousand-dollar chunks to 20 or 30 people. They would then turn around and write personal checks of their own for the same amount, and that would be 'their' contribution. Sounded good to me, but when I presented it to David he laughed for about three minutes straight. When we got down to it, though, he told me to go ahead.

"I should have been suspicious when he added, 'Just don't tell anyone.' Later, he would pull me aside at Spago and re-emphasize the point: I was to keep that little trick of mine quiet, 'very quiet.'"

Tonken also writes of Rosen's concern about expenses, telling the author to "get rid" of receipts related to fund-raiser expenditures.

"What we want is the appearance that expenses were minimal," Tonken says Rosen told him.

A 2002 FBI affidavit backs up Tonken's account:

"The [2000 Hillary event's] costs exceeded $1 million, but the required forms filed by New York Senate 2000 ... months after the event incorrectly disclosed that the cost of the event was only $523,000," the affidavit reads. "It appears that the true cost of the event was deliberately understated in order to increase the amount of funds available to New York Senate 2000 for federal campaign activities."

Tonken's book tells how he continued to do his job after federal agents contacted him about cooperating with their probe.

"Month after month this investigation went on," he writes." My life began to seem surreal. Here I was, doing charity events where there was fraud involved; continuing to expand my political contacts, fielding telephone calls from President Clinton, the first lady and Gerald Ford; and at the same time being enmeshed in an FBI probe."


22 posted on 04/22/2005 8:52:45 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

True. By 1996 Clinton was persona non grata in Georgia


23 posted on 04/22/2005 8:53:02 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: HappyCapitalist
I don't think n power plant has enough juice to turn on that icebox.

You can if you're the right girl...

24 posted on 04/22/2005 8:53:11 PM PDT by Snardius
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Based in Chicago, David Rosen, has been a fundraiser for several Democratic candidates including U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton and Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. Most recently Mr. Rosen served as Midwest Finance Director for presidential candidate Wesley Clark. He also has helped candidates for the U.S. House of Representatives and Democratic 527 groups.


25 posted on 04/22/2005 8:54:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland
Speaking of a tie in with tsunami chaitable giving scam, didn't Kofi or Bush just make Clinton "Tsunami Charity Giving Czar"????LOL!!!

I will send Busha fat check if Bill is implicated in a scandal involving money for the tsunami!!

26 posted on 04/22/2005 8:56:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: doug from upland
He won't rat on the Clintons.

Nobody does if they want to live. The body count is far too high to not know the obvious.
27 posted on 04/22/2005 8:56:25 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: lonestar
Zell was on Hannity & Colmes Friday night promoting his new book "Deficit of Decency".

He was asked about hellary and talked about how "she has been moving to the center on a number of issues" and becoming "more moderate".

at NO time during the interview,even with every opportunity ,did he voice opposition to a potential hellary candidacy, so Zell's position on hellary is really not clear to me. who knows....

he talked about hellary completely different than he did about kerry in 2004.

28 posted on 04/22/2005 8:57:47 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: Ann Archy

Why on Earth would you say that? And if it's true, why is he saying the things he's saying now about Hillary?


29 posted on 04/22/2005 8:58:08 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: SteveMcKing; PilloryHillary; Liz; bd476; Calpernia; onyx; Cindy

PING


30 posted on 04/22/2005 8:59:47 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: doug from upland

In any case, a dem turning on Hillary means one thing - they want Al Gore to run instead.


31 posted on 04/22/2005 9:01:08 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Ann Archy

Yes.


32 posted on 04/22/2005 9:04:42 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: All

He faces twenty years. Neither Susan nor Webb faced that.


33 posted on 04/22/2005 9:05:38 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: SteveMcKing
i think youre right.....i dont buy the "dick hates hellary" act.

actually it's really "hellary hates dick"

ok...lol..bad pun

seriously, morris is a total scam with all this anti-clinton BS

34 posted on 04/22/2005 9:05:53 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: doug from upland; Miss Marple; Howlin; prairiebreeze; Dog; Peach; Common Tator; PhiKapMom; Mo1

bttt


35 posted on 04/22/2005 9:14:11 PM PDT by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Ann Archy
I don't think Morris is a two timer. He sincerely thought Kerry would be a disaster in the war just like Ed Koch.

Koch is supporting Shrillery and I don't think that makes him a hypocrite.

If Morris finds himself supporting Shrill the Witch, that doesn't make him a "spy".

36 posted on 04/22/2005 9:17:18 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

Morris is not and will not support Hillary.


37 posted on 04/22/2005 9:18:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: SteveMcKing
Zell is an "old time dem" - from when they used be fairly decent...in the last 25 years, the dems have been infiltrated in a very deliberate plan by the socialists to usurp and take over the party.

They have been very successful, ah wot?

Zell is genuine 'old time"

38 posted on 04/22/2005 9:20:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: doug from upland

save


39 posted on 04/22/2005 9:22:59 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: SteveMcKing

You have to remember the times. In '92 all us former hippies thought it would be cool to have "one of us" finally be President. Bill had everybody fooled. The smart ones amongst us have since recanted.


40 posted on 04/22/2005 9:25:08 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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To: doug from upland

Don't people who are "inconvenient" to the clintons DIE?


41 posted on 04/22/2005 9:26:14 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: doug from upland





Hillary



David save yourself


42 posted on 04/22/2005 9:26:41 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: upchuck

Use Hillary's broach. ;)


43 posted on 04/22/2005 9:28:45 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: doug from upland

Did I understand correctly that this investigation was started before Bush took office?


44 posted on 04/22/2005 9:29:19 PM PDT by umgud
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To: bannie


Posted: Mon., Sep. 20, 2004, 5:13pm PT

King of Cons begins lockup


GOOD MORNING: Aaron Tonken is skedded to start a 63-month jail sentence Wednesday on federal charges of fraud. Today he is slated to be interviewed by Brian Ross for a Nov. 19 airing with John Stossel on ABC's '20/20.'" A seg on "GMA" airs next day. Tonken's book, "King of Cons," hits the book stalls Nov. 18 from Thomas Nelson Publishers. I met Monday with Tonken, publisher David W. Dunham, and one of Tonken's attorneys, Philip D. Dapeer, while also talking on the phone with another of his lawyers, George Bird. They are taking fees based on sales of the book whose first printing is 90,000 copies. And the film and TV rights have been bought by Michael Shane (exec producer "Catch Me If You Can") ... Tonken is involved in California, federal and local lawsuits ranging from the fraud charges to Chapter 7, plus a countersuit vs. David Schwimmer who has sued Tonken for defamation. Tonken's book names a long list of celebs who took fees -- and demanded more -- for so-called charitable appearances. The extent of some of the celeb demands, Tonken says are beyond imagination. The Federal Election Commission has also demanded information from Tonken on a fundraising event for Hillary Clinton's senatorial campaign he headed. (It was sponsored by New York Senate 2000). Tonken's association with the Clintons was remarkable in view of his minor status in the establishment. How did this comparative newcomer gain the confidences of so many in the showbiz and political community? All in the name of charity. He claims he took none of the funds for himself. The book unravels an incredible rollout of cash and goods to the celeb participants in the charity events. Dunham told me the book is set for windows nationwide at Barnes and Noble, Borders, etc. ... Next month, Thomas Nelson publishes "Cooking Made Easy" by Wolfgang Puck.


45 posted on 04/22/2005 9:31:08 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Ann Archy

Oh, the BM (bigf media) will cover it, spinning like tops to dissemble and twist the facts into 'a wich hunt' ... oddly enough, it is a witch that is hunted, but the media whores love the criminal clintons and their smarmy service to leftist agenda. Hatellary Rodhamster will emerge untouched at election time because mainstream media whoredom will protect her in the main. The spinning that jesters like Chrissy Matthews and Tim Russert will do could keep a yoyo going for centuries.


46 posted on 04/22/2005 9:31:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: JennysCool
Bill had everybody fooled.

Nope! My parents raised me right!

47 posted on 04/22/2005 9:31:53 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: umgud

I'm not sure of the date, but certainly it would have been after Bush took office.


48 posted on 04/22/2005 9:32:15 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: TheForceOfOne

I believe I've met Rosen. I doubt he put me in his Rolodex.


49 posted on 04/22/2005 9:34:06 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: All

The Florida Democratic Party, Salon has learned, hopes to raise at least $15 million in its campaign to unseat Bush in 2002. For the first time in its history, the state party will be targeting donors in the other 49 states for at least half that sum. The campaign, called "Focus on Florida," will include direct-mail solicitations as well as a series of fundraising events throughout the country, kicking off on June 11 in New York with an event featuring Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla.


The party's out-of-state fundraising will be run by the Competence Group, a Chicago company formed in January and run by David Rosen, who headed up out-of-state fundraising for the November 2000 campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. Rosen said that Clinton raised approximately $20 million in both hard and soft money from outside the Empire State last year, and he hoped to raise anywhere from $7 million to $10 million in soft money for Florida Democrats for 2002.

News of the Democrats' new campaign seemed to catch the Florida Republican Party by surprise. "I had not heard that," spokeswoman Portia Palmer said. Calling back later after checking around the George Bush Building in Tallahassee, Palmer said, "We don't know anything about it. We don't have any comment until we know more about what exactly is going on."

State Democratic Party spokesman Bob Poe sounded positively giddy about what's going on. "This is the first time the Florida Democratic Party's ever done anything like this," he gushed, noting that the state GOP had pledged to raise around $40 million to keep Bush in the governor's mansion.

"People haven't forgotten," said Rosen. "People are energized. I'm getting a lot of that comment -- 'whatever I can do to help.'" While the name of the campaign -- Focus on Florida -- is positive, Rosen says, the motivating force behind the pending contributions doesn't have to be. "We want to capitalize on the emotions, period, positive or negative," he said. "What we do want is to realize something did happen in Florida and use that as a rallying point."


50 posted on 04/22/2005 9:39:09 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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