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Los Angeles Daily News ^ | April 23, 2005 | Lisa M. Sodders and Brent Hopkins

Posted on 04/23/2005 2:59:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

Saturday, April 23, 2005 - Cranky schoolchildren, electronic chaos and increased sales of double espressos -- those are just some of the effects that would ripple through Americans' lives under a plan moving through Congress to extend daylight-saving time by two months a year.

Under the plan that was approved by the House of Representatives and sent to the Senate, California and other states would "spring forward" in March rather than April and "fall back" in November rather than October.

"It's gonna be chaos, man," said Viken Fermanian, owner of Salco Services, an electronics repair shop in Granada Hills, predicting there would be no easy fix to the daylight-saving time change hard-wired into everything from wristwatches to VCRs.

While computer software can be reprogrammed to accommodate different dates, hardware presents a trickier problem.

"The worst thing that'll happen is (the device will) change the time for you, but it'll be the wrong time. If Congress changes the date, you'll get every electronics manufacturer scrambling to change their processors," he said.

But supporters of the plan -- tucked into a sweeping federal energy bill approved by the House this week -- note that any drawbacks would be outweighed by the energy savings provided by maximizing daylight hours.

"It's the most painless way to save any energy at all, and it has some other advantages: It reduces crime and traffic accidents," said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Sherman Oaks.

Sherman and other supporters cite Department of Transportation studies from the mid-1970s that found such a move could save the equivalent of 100,000 barrels of oil each day that daylight-saving time is extended.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: daylightsavingtime; dst; energy; energybill; tinkeringwithtime
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To: La Enchiladita

If we're to live in this jungle of socialist bullsh*t then lets just go on zulu time and call it a day.........:o)


42 posted on 04/23/2005 4:51:06 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Zulu Time
43 posted on 04/23/2005 4:59:14 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: La Enchiladita
Huh? Wait six months and then buy a new VCR. Or change the clock yourself if you want to save the dough. I don't see the problem. Microsoft will be offering a Windows XP fix if extended daylight becomes law.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
44 posted on 04/23/2005 5:00:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: luv2ski

Indiana does not participate either.

Indiana is divided into two time zones. Only the Eastern Time Zone portion of Indiana does not do DST. The Central time zone part does. That way, for six months of the year, all of Indiana is operating in the same time zone, so to speak.

45 posted on 04/23/2005 5:13:48 PM PDT by elli1
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To: goldstategop
I don't see the problem...

My Grandfather Sills an Indiana farmer solved the problem.

He had two clocks in the kitchen. One for city time (CDT) and one for his farm time (CST).

46 posted on 04/23/2005 5:18:35 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: La Enchiladita

I think we should have one day of Standard (not Daylight) time - every February 29. This would be a bone tossed to those who do not want any Daylight time. Note this should apply ony when February 29 falls on a 4th Sunday :)


47 posted on 04/23/2005 5:33:49 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: La Enchiladita

I think it is great that our elected representatives are able to give us more daylight. I knew they had a purpose.


48 posted on 04/23/2005 5:40:16 PM PDT by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Screw the savings and all that crap, it give me an extra hour of light in the fall to finish cleaning up around my house......

Sunlight is good, Kalifornia and darkness is bad......

49 posted on 04/23/2005 5:43:06 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 32 years of dealing with stupid people I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Ummm... if you're not a morning person, then you should love this proposal, unless you hate the sunlight...


50 posted on 04/23/2005 5:44:29 PM PDT by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: stboz

As a practical matter, that would work only if businesses also agreed to start one hour earlier. Believe me, I'd love to go to work at 6 AM if I could.


51 posted on 04/23/2005 5:46:12 PM PDT by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: La Enchiladita
It would make better sense to have standard time all the time.

Preach it!

I hate daylight savings time.

It is hell if you are in agriculture. You either have to rewrite all the schedules or have people hanging around doing nothing as the cows don't care about the stupid clock.

52 posted on 04/23/2005 5:46:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: Flyer
I bet you would like this idea. Change clocks 4 times a year.
53 posted on 04/23/2005 5:47:54 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Squantos
If we're to live in this jungle of socialist bullsh*t then lets just go on zulu time and call it a day.........:o)

Now that I could live with.

54 posted on 04/23/2005 5:50:43 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: DumpsterDiver; Buddy B

I saw that link after I posted! Thanks to both of you!


55 posted on 04/23/2005 5:56:50 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: La Enchiladita
While computer software can be reprogrammed to accommodate different dates, hardware presents a trickier problem.

I've incorporated DST into firmware for a few products. The code is surprisingly simple, actually. That said, changing the rules at this point in the game would be really dumb, annoying, and assinine.

56 posted on 04/23/2005 5:58:05 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Verginius Rufus
The problem in the middle of summer is that it gets light too early...maybe we should have double daylight time (two hours ahead of standard time) for a couple of months around the summer solstice. That would give us a lot of daylight in the evenings...perhaps too much for families with young children.

What we need to do is shift the extra daylight itself a few months, so we could average 12 hours of daylight a day.

Actually, at the Time Museum in Rockford, I saw a clock that was designed to give 12 hours of daylight a day. Daytime and nighttime hours were different lengths, set by separate adjustable pendula.

57 posted on 04/23/2005 6:00:29 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: La Enchiladita

"Maybe other states should consider defiance."

The Navajo reservation goes w/DST but most of Indiana does not.


58 posted on 04/23/2005 6:07:30 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: supercat

Fine, then you move to the Congo, Indonesia, or some other equatorial rain forest. Or Somalia. Maybe Brazil or Ecuador. Your pick.


59 posted on 04/23/2005 6:10:16 PM PDT by dufekin (United States of America: a judicial tyranny, not a federal republic)
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To: CommandoFrank

I'm a city guy,so the idea if chickens knowing what time it is on a clock in relation to laying eggs FREAKS ME OUT!


60 posted on 04/23/2005 6:12:39 PM PDT by isom35
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