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Posted on 04/23/2005 2:59:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
Saturday, April 23, 2005 - Cranky schoolchildren, electronic chaos and increased sales of double espressos -- those are just some of the effects that would ripple through Americans' lives under a plan moving through Congress to extend daylight-saving time by two months a year.
Under the plan that was approved by the House of Representatives and sent to the Senate, California and other states would "spring forward" in March rather than April and "fall back" in November rather than October.
"It's gonna be chaos, man," said Viken Fermanian, owner of Salco Services, an electronics repair shop in Granada Hills, predicting there would be no easy fix to the daylight-saving time change hard-wired into everything from wristwatches to VCRs.
While computer software can be reprogrammed to accommodate different dates, hardware presents a trickier problem.
"The worst thing that'll happen is (the device will) change the time for you, but it'll be the wrong time. If Congress changes the date, you'll get every electronics manufacturer scrambling to change their processors," he said.
But supporters of the plan -- tucked into a sweeping federal energy bill approved by the House this week -- note that any drawbacks would be outweighed by the energy savings provided by maximizing daylight hours.
"It's the most painless way to save any energy at all, and it has some other advantages: It reduces crime and traffic accidents," said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Sherman Oaks.
Sherman and other supporters cite Department of Transportation studies from the mid-1970s that found such a move could save the equivalent of 100,000 barrels of oil each day that daylight-saving time is extended.
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Why dont we just leave it a half hour ahead and not change it anymore?
Doom and Gloom doesn't work anymore thus the LA Times loss of revenue.
i like daylight savings time.
Wasn't it Einstein who said all is relative?
The problem in the middle of summer is that it gets light too early...maybe we should have double daylight time (two hours ahead of standard time) for a couple of months around the summer solstice. That would give us a lot of daylight in the evenings...perhaps too much for families with young children.
Thank you for the correction my FRiend however my statement still stands. ; )
It would make better sense to have standard time all the time. I hate daylight savings time. I'm NOT a morning person and your proposal to "spring forward" in February would mean getting up in darkness more months. ARGHHH...!!
I think this legislation is insane. Couldn't Congress be working on matters of importance?
We tried this schitt in the 70's. November, northern Michigan, sunrise 8:30 am.
Forget daylight savings time. Get back on standard time and leave it alone. DST is a joke.
So do I. I've never understood why we didn't need that extra hour of daylight in the winter.
Why can't we all agree to get up an hour earlier and leave the dang clocks alone?
Arizona is the only state to defy the "government edict" so far. Maybe other states should consider defiance. This is hideous. Get outa my clock, Big Brother!
Amen! this switching the clocks and pretending to fool anyone is just about the stupidest thing we've done this century... almost....
Arizona is right. They long ago realize the extra hour of daylight would burn the crops and upset the chickens egg laying schedule.
How is this supposed to save energy when in Texas, in the summer, you have to run your A/C almost 24 hours a day regardless of what the clock says? Whether the sun sets at 8PM or 9PM make no difference when the temperatue is still going to swing between 80 and 105 every day!
Not to mention the humidity! The earth turns according to God's design and plan and no tinkering with clocks can change it.
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uhmmmm, how does that work? There's still the same hours of sunlight. Only your clock has changed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.......
Exactly, my electric furnace won't know the difference, nor, my whole house electric air conditioner.
The earth and the sun; Spring, Summer, Fall, & Winter will not change their habits.
Congress can not change these things...
How is this supposed to save energy.....
DST, insanity with a smile. DST, insanity with a smile. DST, insanity with a smile.
Isn't the point of DST to transfer engery cost from business to individuals?
Okay, this article has me full of questions.
I grew up in Arizona so I never had any experience with changing clocks until I moved to Florida. What is the rationale for DST?
That said, I like the fact that it doesn't get dark until 8-9 pm in the summer. I love that extra daylight after dinner to take walks, work in the yard, watch the kids play, take a swim, whatever. It kinda sucks for those who have to drive home from work in the dark in the fall and winter.
But, I realize that the sun is going to rise and set at a certain time no matter what our clocks say, so there is really no "extra" time. The day (light) will be shorter in the winter and longer in the summer regardless!
And, as someone else has already pointed out, my air condititioner, etc... is going to run the same length of time. When the sun shines, it's hot. No amount of clock-switching will change that.
I just don't get it!!
|Not to mention the humidity!
Good idea! They should pass a law to send some of the humidity into the Winter. That way, the Summers wouldn't be so sticky, and I wouldn't get zapped every time I reach for a doorknob in January.
Squeeze forward, wring back.
In central Wisconsin here. Wish DST started a month earlier in the spring. In the winter, ain't nuthin' gonna' help. It's dark when you leave for work, it's dark when you drive home.
Kill daylight saving, it's one of the stupidest ideas our idiotic government ever came up with. Kill it, don't extend it, end the raw stupidity.
From Buudy B's post:
About Daylight Saving Time - History, rationale, laws & dates
Indiana does not participate either.My grandmother used to live there and I could never figure out what time it was. I don't think Hawaii does either.
I think other states should follow Arizona and opt out of DST, stay on standard. Defy the edict! As one of our fellow FReepers said..
I was having a nice walk this afternoon when I spied this headline and there went my blood pressure! There are no words for the inanity!
Riiiight, they want to use a thirty five year old study.
Sunrise, sunset. Manipulating clocks manipulates the populace. Lose DST and adopt Zulu time. Let the businesses sort out the rest.
Great idea! But... I think suffering is our lot.
I don't know. You sound too smart for public school, that's for sure.
I love when they start talking about it saving energy. How is moving the coldest part of the day from 6AM to 7AM for November and March going to save any energy?
People need to grock, you don't actually get any extra daylight, you just shift it around. If you want more daylight after the end of the work day talk to your boss, don't make the rest of the country change their clocks.
Surely our national government led by 'conservative' Republicans has something better to do than mess with changing the time back and forth. They still do believe in smaller government don't they? And less intrusion into the lives of the citizens of the respective states? Or has that been officially dropped from the party platform?
If we're to live in this jungle of socialist bullsh*t then lets just go on zulu time and call it a day.........:o)
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Indiana does not participate either.
Indiana is divided into two time zones. Only the Eastern Time Zone portion of Indiana does not do DST. The Central time zone part does. That way, for six months of the year, all of Indiana is operating in the same time zone, so to speak.
My Grandfather Sills an Indiana farmer solved the problem.
He had two clocks in the kitchen. One for city time (CDT) and one for his farm time (CST).
I think we should have one day of Standard (not Daylight) time - every February 29. This would be a bone tossed to those who do not want any Daylight time. Note this should apply ony when February 29 falls on a 4th Sunday :)
I think it is great that our elected representatives are able to give us more daylight. I knew they had a purpose.
Sunlight is good, Kalifornia and darkness is bad......
Ummm... if you're not a morning person, then you should love this proposal, unless you hate the sunlight...