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Munch masterpieces destroyed?
Aftenposten (Norway) ^ | April 28, 2005 | Unsigned

Posted on 04/28/2005 2:35:50 PM PDT by aculeus

The Munch masterpieces "The Scream" and "Madonna" have been incinerated, according to newspaper Dagbladet, citing criminal sources and a top secret police report.

The paper claimed Thursday that the paintings were destroyed in order to get rid of damning evidence as the police investigation closes in on the culprits behind the robbery.

Investigation leader Iver Stensrud of the Oslo police said he had no knowledge of the supposedly secret report acknowledging the destruction of the paintings.

"This is completely unknown to Oslo police. I basically have no comment and normally we do not use Dagbladet as a reliable source here at the Oslo police," Stensrud told NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting).

Three people are in custody in connection with the Munch robbery, but none of them are linked to crime via technical evidence, and the pair that carried out the heist are considered to be at large.

Dagbladet cited both criminal and police sources in their reportage, and said that police expect new arrests in the case shortly.

(Aftenposten English Web Desk/NTB)

This is an article from www.aftenposten.no. Updated: 28. april 2005 kl.12:00 © Aftenposten Multimedia.

Publisher: Aftenposten Multimedia A/S, Oslo, Norway.


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To: MeanWestTexan

My definition of art?

If it looks like I could have done it, it isn't art.


41 posted on 04/28/2005 3:55:31 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: GoLightly

It's not just the art department by any means. In Lit or composition classes, every time I'd make a strong, careful, consciencous effort on an assignment I'd score somewhere near a "C". If I gave up and decided to fill the pages with utter nonsense I'd score an "A" without fail.


42 posted on 04/28/2005 3:58:40 PM PDT by WireAndWood (The Freeper formerly known as LouisWu)
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To: risk
How about a little Motley Crew "Primal Scream & Shout" to go with?

Trajan88

43 posted on 04/28/2005 4:06:13 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Instead you insulted everyone on this thread.

Horrors. I feel so terribly guilty now.

44 posted on 04/28/2005 4:06:34 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: Tamberlane
Ah, so you feel justified at flinging vitriol at people but heaven forfend that anyone should not care for a painting.

Thank you for the most delightful insight into your personality.

45 posted on 04/28/2005 4:10:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: Tamberlane

This is art. A guy with a light bulb head.


46 posted on 04/28/2005 4:13:13 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: aculeus

Somehow, this must be America's fault.


47 posted on 04/28/2005 4:19:06 PM PDT by rabidralph (My truck appreciates the rest of you driving fuel-efficient vehicles.)
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To: dawn53
Dali's use of grotesque imagery in his paintings made some people think he himself was mad. His uncommon mustache, a work of art in itself, added to the illusion.

However, he also painted powerful religious masterpieces. He also painted in the classical manner when moved to do so.

In interviews and on TV, Dali loved to mystify and shock the public. It helped sell his paintings for huge sums.....that's why I said above he was crazy like a fox.

He was a complex individual, to be sure, but it was undoubtedly part of the inborn temperment of a true artistic genius.

If you stand in front of some "weird" Dali painting for a while as I have, and go beyond your first view, you'll begin to notice scores of carefully crafted (sometimes hidden) details in the foregrounds, backgrounds, corners, and upper areas. They have definite symbolisms which make you want to read books on him to see what they mean. Fascinating stuff.

Some of his paintings fool the eye. By squinting your eyes or standing back a ways, you'll see a subject in the painting totally change to something else. It's lots of fun to participate in Dali's little games.

Dali was indeed an artistic genius, albeit with his own unconventional style.....as well as an incredibly masterful draftsman, illustrator and mechanic of surreal perspective, arts which he mixed in with the emotional sides of his paintings.

I always feel that the so-called "mad" artists actually are those losers who paint with urine/defecation, and who desecrate Christ's image. These poseurs are truly the ones who are mentally and morally twisted.

I hope if you ever get to St. Petersburg, you'll visit the Dali Museum. It's quite an experience.

Let me know and I'll join you and give you the Cook's tour, LOL.

Leni

48 posted on 04/28/2005 4:26:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Especially as vitriol is almost never flung at people around here. Oh no.

In fact, it's routinely flung at entire peoples or collections of such, be it Europeans or the dreaded Arabs. A thread on hunger in Zimbabwe today pullulated with racist sentiment. (I didn't speak out against it; now there is something I feel slightly shameful about. Your guilt trip I'll pass on, however.)

49 posted on 04/28/2005 4:26:24 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: MinuteGal
P.S......I love "The Scream".

It's the perfect portrait of me when my computer suddenly crashes after I've almost finished crafting a particularly long and brilliant comment to be posted on FR.

I think everyone can relate to "The Scream" in his/her own way.

......which is why it's still so popular after all these many decades and was deemed important enough to be hung in a museum to attract the public.

Leni

50 posted on 04/28/2005 4:34:24 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: aculeus

A shame if true. Although he isn't my favorite artist, I hate to see works of art destroyed.


51 posted on 04/28/2005 4:41:22 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: MinuteGal
I visit the Dali Museum in St. Pete whenever I can, and I spend hours there. The man was a genius and crazy like a fox. Anyone who has seen his work in this museum will bear out my hard-nosed critique that Dali's work is stunning.

My entire living room is done in Dali. I inherited the paintings from my parents. I grew up in a Dali house so you can see that things were pretty wild in my youth.

52 posted on 04/28/2005 4:44:14 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Tina, eat the ham you fat lard!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I hope your morning alarm clock isn't melted.

Leni

53 posted on 04/28/2005 4:49:52 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: Tamberlane
Yet, you whine about someone not liking a painting. So you have the courage to do one, albeit in a very general way rather then confronting the person face to face but you are not willing to stand up for your beliefs when it matters.

I am gaining even more insight into your personality. How enlightening.

54 posted on 04/28/2005 4:51:30 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

If you scroll through my posts you will find that I have been standing up for rather unpopular beliefs, notably with respect to Europe, the UN, and Islam, fairly often. In fact, there are times when I wonder why I haven't been booted off. It may have to do with the fact that I usually strive to be polite, unlike you (judging by your present string of personal attacks).


55 posted on 04/28/2005 5:01:12 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: Tamberlane
If you scroll through my posts you will find that I have been standing up for rather unpopular beliefs, notably with respect to Europe, the UN, and Islam, fairly often.

I knew that without scrolling though your posts. The personality type is very obvious by your comments on this thread.

In fact, there are times when I wonder why I haven't been booted off.

The mods are long suffering.

It may have to do with the fact that I usually strive to be polite,

*snicker* Now why don't I believe that?

unlike you (judging by your present string of personal attacks).

Let's see, you insult all the posters on the thread and when I call you on it you complain of a personal attack.

Pot, allow me to introduce you to kettle.

56 posted on 04/28/2005 5:10:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: WireAndWood

I guess one needs to have a truly ejamakated mind to understand what it all means. Some day you'll have to go back & read some of your "utter nonsense", to see if it offers you any new insights into what you were not trying to say.


57 posted on 04/28/2005 5:10:20 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: aculeus

This is a shame if true but, for my money, if excellent copies exist nothing great has been lost. I know it's heresy in artistic circles but the image the artist created is well preserved in the good copies and the mood and emotions he tried to convey are preserved.


58 posted on 04/28/2005 5:18:53 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: MinuteGal; dawn53

I haven't read it yet but here's a longish just-published article in NYRB about Dali.



http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17980


59 posted on 04/28/2005 5:19:04 PM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I knew that without scrolling though your posts. The personality type is very obvious by your comments on this thread.

So, first you scold me for 'not having the courage' to stand up for my beliefs. Then, when I note that I actually do, I get yet another insult about my 'personality type'? Which is it? And since when is 'not agreeing fully with the average freeper' a distinctive 'personality type'?

But never mind, this bickering is getting old. Suffice it to say I find your personality as currently displayed less than totally enchanting too.

60 posted on 04/28/2005 5:22:13 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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