The War We Could Have Won [Truth on 'Nam published in NY Times!]

The New York Times ^ | May 1, 2005 | By STEPHEN J. MORRIS

[kilowhskey]

Thank you for mentioning McMaster's "Dereliction of Duty." His book nails those two war criminals as squarely as anyone ever will. This Old Dogface says "Check it out!"

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: LBJ and McNamara

I agree completely about those two. There are not enough pejorative words to completely describe LBJ, Rasputin's evil twin.

BTW, I thought Barr McClellan's book "Blood, Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK" pretty much proved LBJ and associates done it and a lot more like..

the USDA inpsector, Henry Marshall. The verdict on his death was suicide by gunshots -- at least five rounds from a bolt-action rifle. Years later a LBJ associate (Estes) fingered Mr. Marshall's killer, LBJ associate Mac Wallace.

Mr. Marshall's "suicide" had the same effect on me then as Mr. Vince Foster's "suicide" had much later, the MSM was putting out the B.S.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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The 2nd coming of...

The PASSION of the Christ =


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-education Camp
(Vietnam Human Rights Bill)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts




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[ALOHA RONNIE]

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Our Enemies within confused us into leaving the Free People of South Vietnam behind to their fate at the hands of invading communist bullies from the North.

This minus our funding for the South's replacement bullets, rifles, artillery, artillery rounds, helicopter, Helicopter parts, aircraft, aircraft parts..

...just as the Communist Soviet Union gave the North $6 Billion in Military aid for its 'Final Solution' in the South = Tons and tons heavy tanks & artillery to move down the HO CHI MINH Trail and Victory.

And...

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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[ALOHA RONNIE]

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Because Sacrifice begets Sacrifice:


MEL's -PASSION- was sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

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[quadrant]

I am no expert on the application of military force, but I believe that by the late 1960's the war was lost.
If LBJ had made it very clear in 1965 that he was prepared to use all elements of US power (except nuclear weapons) the war might have been won.
Such a declaration would have required an immediate full-scale deployment of the active duty military, a call-up of the reserves and the guard, and a willingness to use air and ground power throughout all of Indochina.
Johnson did not follow this course and tragedy resulted.

[surfatsixty]

ping for later read. thanks.

[Sirc_Valence]

NYTimes allowing the truth to filter through? Ping

[neverdem]

From time to time, I’ll ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

The Times prints this guest OpEd on G** D*** May Day!

[neverdem]

And last year they lauded the faked exploits of Kerry... in a war they all hated.

Oh, so on the money!

[jongaltsr]

No Sh*t.

I have been saying this since my tour during TET. NVN was on it's knees asking for us to stop three (3) times and each time LBJ would stop the bombing and tell them we would meet them in Paris. They delayed, rearmed, recuperated and started all over again - each time. LBJ should have said "We are not stopping the bombing. You find a way to get to Paris and we will outline your term of surrender." That would have worked because they were hurting big time, but LBJ kept giving them hope and that is not what you want to give the enemy.

You want to give them a hand up -after- their complete surrender, like we did in Germany and Japan.

[FreedomPoster]

Holy smokes! Check this out, and the source!

Porcine aviation, and all that!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Sirc_Valence]

DMZFrank did a good article on the same thing here. On the HistoryChannel I saw that MacNamara and the administration prohibited from pilots from hitting AA sites as they were being set up because it might upset the Soviets or the Chinese who were supplying them or even bringing them in. Nevermind who NOT striking them would upset.

[Cicero]

People seem to forget that, according to the Pentagon Papers as published in the New York Times, John F. Kennedy ordered the assassination of our ally Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam.

He had been a pretty good job of holding the country together and pursuing the war effort. After he was assassinated on JFK's orders it took years to get the Vietnamese government back to where it could take on some of the military burden again.

That information was buried in the middle of the Pentagon Papers, perhaps the single most significant revelation in them. But the Times never singled it out for comment, instead using the release of the papers as another tool to bash President Nixon. The Pentagon Papers didn't actually reveal anything negative against Nixon, only against JFK and LBJ. It was typical lying liberal spin.

[The Mayor]

1974-80 were dark years for this country at home and abroad.

Yes they were.

[CGVet58]

considering our previous exchange fm this morning; the above article is stunning - can't believe the slimes printed it.

[Travis McGee]

Teddy Kennedy, burn in hell. Mary Jo was just one of the millions you abandoned.

[BIGLOOK]

After 35 years of incompetence, the NYT ...........ping.

[Travis McGee]

The NYT editors must have been off this weekend.