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Vietnam: The Fog of War or the Smoke of Propaganda?
NewsMax ^ | 5/3/05 | Carlton Sherwood

Posted on 05/02/2005 5:51:21 PM PDT by wagglebee

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Instead, it was Congress – more specifically, the nearly 2-to-1 Democrat majority in the Senate (61 to 37) and the House (291 to 144) in 1975 – that voted to cut off all military funding to the Saigon government that was directly responsible for the defeat of South Vietnam.

Congressional Democrats literally abandoned our South Vietnamese allies and it was they, not the U.S. military, who were responsible for the carnage that followed, the slaughter, imprisonment and forced "re-education" of millions of innocent civilians throughout Southeast Asia by an avenging North Vietnamese Army.

There's another little-known fact.

Several months after the last U.S. ground combat forces left Vietnam in 1972, the North Vietnamese Communists and the Viet Cong signed the Paris Peace Accords, promising, among other things, to cease all hostilities and to NOT invade South Vietnam, much less conquer it, as they did in 1975.

Then and now, 30 years later, rarely is there ever a mention of this diplomatic treachery. Broken treaties, even ones for which the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded, apparently aren't worthy of mention in the evening news, certainly not in history textbooks, at least not when it comes to Vietnam.

The 'Rats betrayal of South Vietnam and America was one of the darkest moments in American history.

1 posted on 05/02/2005 5:51:45 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
"It taught the military a very important lesson that I think it has begun to forget in some ways, that it could not fight an unpopular war.

The military doesn't decide which wars to fight in, Uncle Dumbass.

It's a good thing CBS and Cronkite weren't around during The Revolutionary War. That war wasn't very popular either.

2 posted on 05/02/2005 5:57:34 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Leftists would have no standards at all)
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It's a good thing CBS and Cronkite weren't around during The Revolutionary War. That war wasn't very popular either.

The Civil War was by far the most unpopular wars in our history, imagine if the leftist media had been around then; for that matter, World War I wasn't popular either.

3 posted on 05/02/2005 5:59:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Congressional Democrats literally abandoned our South Vietnamese allies and it was they, not the U.S. military, who were responsible for the carnage that followed

To me this is the worst of the worst of the worst. Shame on Kerry and Kennedy, the disgusting so-called Catholic twosome from Massachussetts who led the charge to cut off funding.

God's blessings on the continuing efforts of the VVLF.

4 posted on 05/02/2005 6:01:52 PM PDT by what's up
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If Cronkite believes 'we lost' the war he should pat himself on the back because he did everything in his power to make
that happen...he abused his status as 'the most trusted man in America' to out right lie to mom and pop as they sat with their families watching CBS nightly leftist propaganda disguised as 'the truth'

Cronkite did his worst to turn the middle class and middle aged against our war efforts and then afterwards did his best to have Americans blame Vietnam veterans for the loss...

He is a disgusting bass turd and a liar...one of ten thousand
of his ilk who should have been tarred and feathered and run back to Hanoi,Moscow,Bejing, or Paris where he, like his soul brother John Kerry, both belong

imo


6 posted on 05/02/2005 6:06:15 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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It wasn't much of a war. But it was the only one we had.


7 posted on 05/02/2005 6:07:04 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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8 posted on 05/02/2005 6:07:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Cronkite's a moron.


9 posted on 05/02/2005 6:11:28 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Leftists would have no standards at all)
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America lost slightly less than 60,000 men in Vietnam, the North Vietnamese lost well over one million, had we fought another couple of years the North would not have had any more able-bodied men left to fight.

The left will continue to say that we "lost" the war, to which I have but one question:
Please cite for me which specific battle we lost that resulted in our defeat? Specifically, which battle was our "Yorktown", "Appomattox" or "Waterloo"?
(I have never received an answer to that question.)

10 posted on 05/02/2005 6:18:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Texas Eagle

No less an authority than Jimmah Cahtah himself said the Revolutionary War was a silly exercise.


11 posted on 05/02/2005 6:22:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Anybody know of any "popular" wars? Only a senile old moron like Wally Crankcase would think there is something called a "popular war." I know there is no one who has served in the military who can give you the name of a "popular" war. ALL wars are "unpopular" with those who have to fight them.


12 posted on 05/02/2005 6:23:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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Little remembered facts..
1) Vietnam was a war started by democrats.. finished by republicans..
2) Korea was a war started by democrats.. finished by republicans..

But that was when republicans had a spine.. but
Democrats have always been morons even in WWII.. and WWI..

13 posted on 05/02/2005 6:35:30 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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For what it's worth, I believe that WWII was also won by Republicans.


14 posted on 05/02/2005 6:43:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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from June 69- Jan.77 we knew that the Beltway bunch had
lied and were our most clear and present danger.Today a
letter from a soldier in Iraq sounds an awaful lot like
we did. He says they know they were lied to- and he thinks the war is immoral. But he also says he is there by choice-- and they have done some good. And have made some positive changes. I am convinced America cannot win nor be
honest to those sent until/ unless we withdraw from the
enemies camp (The United Nations) So long as our leaders serve a foreign entity we cannot win.


15 posted on 05/02/2005 7:24:53 PM PDT by StonyBurk
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Thanks for the article. I know as a Vietnam vet we (the military) did not lose the war.


The North Viets and the liberals may think they won it. But there were a million of those little bastards that didn't get to march in the victory parade.
16 posted on 05/02/2005 8:47:44 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Ping for a great article by Carlton Sherwood, producer of the Stolen Honor documentary.


17 posted on 05/03/2005 9:39:34 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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Thanks for the ping!

""The false history of Vietnam has been used to endanger and demoralize our troops in combat, undermine the public's confidence in U.S. foreign policy and weaken our national security," Foundation chairman Col. Day said. "Radical leftists such as Sen. Kerry and Jane Fonda lied about the war 35 years ago and are lying about it today. The goal of the VVLF is to continue the work of countering more than three decades of misinformation and propaganda, and set the record straight."

The 3+ decades of lying about Viet Nam are the basic foundation of the Hate America Wing of the Lunatic Lefties.

They will never admit that they lied about Viet Nam, and the reality that we weren't defeated on the battle grounds. We were stabbed in the back by left wing congressits using the lies of the MSM as weapons.


18 posted on 05/03/2005 9:54:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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BTTT!!!!!!


19 posted on 05/03/2005 10:00:55 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 05/03/2005 10:07:17 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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