Posted on 05/06/2005 7:36:09 PM PDT by DouglasKC
We know only two explanations for such: either it was there forever, or it was created. At the least we have a dearth of intelligences popping into existence out of a literal nothing.
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God exists outside of our physical universe. He is the source of our physical universe. The buck stops there.
oh come on now..missing the topic..thats like saying can god create a rock he can't lift?
Dr. Behe spoke in Ithaca this past week, and reiterated - by citing writings of prominent Darwinists themselves - that no one has yet demonstrated how any complex biochemical systems have "happened to develop" in the incremental stepwise manner that classical Darwinism requires.
Well, of course, God IS the universe and evolves along with everything therin (resolving the omnipotence, omniscience and free will criteria for God at once).
I especially like the part in the article about the difference between DNA material and the DNA message. Obviously intelligence placed intelligent information in the medium of DNA.
The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers.
Claiming that DNA is complex is hardly evidence that evolution is false. If you keep telling people that something is too complex for them to understand, apparently some of them start to believe it's magic.
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And you consider the article above to be logical? If so, I'm staggered.
Now, I would have to agree that the theory of evolution, like all scientific theories, is a work in progress. There is no end of the road in science as the quest for knowledge is never ending. It is just not a legitimate criticism of scientific knowledge to say that it is incomplete.
Yet, the theory of creationism is also "full of holes", that is to say that it fails to explain, in any way other than the circular, HUGE elements of the real world as we find it. It is not enough to say that "God just made it that way." That is not an adequate answer.
Yet, on threads like these, that argument is the one that is always resorted to. And always by people who have no trouble tossing the entire body of scientific research into the evolution of life on earth on the trash heap because some issue or another remains unexplained in full detail.
It's basically dishonest.
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Great post.
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A bible-oriented magazine doesn't like evolution!
Next you'll be telling us the sun rises in the east.
Oh, and by the way. That's not proof of anything. Sorry.
I don't think that's the argument. I think the argument is that DNA is too complex to have happened by chance or random occurrence. A computer is complex and there's relatively few people in the world who know and can understand all the elements of electricity, electronics, computer theory, magnetics, and all of the processes that go into a computer...yet nobody claims that computers just randomly evolved from lightning bolts.
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