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Connecticut Town Struggles With Illegal Immigrants
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | Thursday, April 28, 2005 | fox news

Posted on 05/07/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by antonia

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To: AppyPappy

Construction firms are the biggest contributer to the problem.

Also thought about going to where the Mexicans congregate to pick-up construction work with about 5 or 6 of my friends and just congregate with them. That should be fun :-)

Or even going to construction sites and taking pictures of the job site, formen, workers. Not to prove anything, just to be obnoxious.

Heck, even call into ICE after passing by your favorite construction site and seeing the same two dozen workers who don't speak English there day after day, week after week. Report that the company is hiring illegals.

Finally, I've thought about going to Mexican run stores and snapping pics of the license plates of the cars sitting out front.

The trick is not to do anything illegal, just be a huge pain in the rear.


41 posted on 05/07/2005 12:54:56 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: redheadtoo
As I said in another post, I live not far from Farmingville, NY another middle-class town that has also gained notoriety for this problem. Although many illegals live in Farmingville, they work all over the county for rich and working class alike.

There are several farms around here, and they hire immigrant labor. Strangely, just down the road is the local Cornell University Cooperative Farm which sponsors 4-H clubs, numerous children's programs and summer camp, and some of the workers are inmates from the minimum security prison. I wonder why instead of using cheap illegal labor on farms we just don't use non-violent minimum security convicts? It's certainly not cruel and unusual punishment.

Surprisingly, the new County head, a Democrat, Steve Levy has been working hard to bring this problem to national attention and is promoting laws that will allow police officers who've arrested known illegal immigrants to detain them until INS deports them (currently they are not required to do so). Unlike his Republican predecessors, he is taking action. He may be posturing to make Hillary look good in the upcoming election, but it's still a start.

42 posted on 05/07/2005 1:12:19 PM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: M. Thatcher

The wealthy folks of Westchester DON'T GIVE A SH-T ABOUT IMMIGRATION. Its basically a more urbanized version of Manhattan. Do you REALLY expect the folks in Scarsdale, Chappaqua, etc. to leave their liberalism behind to join together with the lunch pailers from places like Yonkers in some "anti-illegal" coalition?


43 posted on 05/07/2005 1:17:03 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: M. Thatcher

I'm not blaming the towns people for the problem, but in many places citizens don't help themselves by continuing to to vote for pols who renege their promises. I'm simply stating that even though it's the government who aids and abets their entry and stay, we are also enabling them by hiring them for our menial jobs or doing business with companies that hire them.


44 posted on 05/07/2005 1:22:18 PM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: bahblahbah

"Republicans would lose both houses of congress if the Democrats really pushed this issue."

Each democrat and Republican will take a stand, based on local circumstances.

At the federal level, Hillary, with a get tough stand, WILL beat any Republican that runs on Bush's record.

Now I'm not saying she will be able to sell her brand of "get tough" and I'm not saying the Republican candidate will adopt Bush's record.

But the time seems to be clearly NOW that America demands changes.

Connecticut wants the Governor to enable deputizations, for what the feds won't do.

Arnold is moving for same, in California.

But we can pass and have laws at all levels, to no avail, unless resources (money and manpower) are devoted to enforcement.

Is Bush's latest solution to ADD another 50 immigration agents? 150, 550, 1,050?

When we need 25,000 or 50,000 or 200,000 added?

Bush wouldn't dare enflame his donor base of business interests, would he?

We currently have a no fault system. The employers NEVER go to jail, or pay huge fines.

The immigrants NEVER are punished enough, to convince others to not try.


45 posted on 05/07/2005 3:25:20 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Yeah. The liberal voters are the ones who should be the most upset because its their social programs which will crash.


46 posted on 05/07/2005 3:34:42 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Clemenza
The wealthy folks of Westchester DON'T GIVE A SH-T ABOUT IMMIGRATION. Its basically a more urbanized version of Manhattan. Do you REALLY expect the folks in Scarsdale, Chappaqua, etc. to leave their liberalism behind to join together with the lunch pailers from places like Yonkers in some "anti-illegal" coalition?

Actually, they do.

I live in Mount Kisco, and there are dozens of working class towns like mine in Westchester - we do not all fit your caricature of rich snobs. (And what on earth could be "more urbanized" than Manhattan??) The illegal immigrant population strains social services to the breaking point and tremendously increases crime. Virtually everyone here is fed up - but stymied, since everything the law-abiding citizens have tried has been thwarted by the illegals' legal victories, ironic enough.

47 posted on 05/07/2005 5:09:22 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: two134711
I'm not blaming the towns people for the problem

Oh, really? Read your post 5 again:

I think the people of this community should ask themselves if they too had a hand in this influx. If so many illegals are in this town, they have to ask themselves, why? The citizens are the ones hiring them. The illegals are their maids, child care providers, landscapers and gardeners and drivers. They fix and build their homes. Go to the posh Hamptons in NY and when you see who rides the buses in and out town, you know that it's not just fast-food chains, Mega-Stores and construction workers hiring them. Even obscenely wealthy people want to save a few bucks.

48 posted on 05/07/2005 5:12:51 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: bayourod
This is just another bottom feeding local politician whining for more federal money

You obviously didn't read the article very closely. That line you quoted was from the author of the article, not the mayor. From the article: "The mayor says he wants state police officers to be deputized as federal immigration officers — giving them access to a federal database and helping them track illegal immigrants."

And:"Boughton has set up a task force to inspect neighborhoods that have received a lot of complaints about buildings housing illegal immigrants. In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a night."

Hardly a politician who's just waiting for someone else to give him money.

49 posted on 05/07/2005 5:17:45 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: antonia
My company has a foundry in Kansas City Missouri called Stahl which employs approximately 1000 employees. 2 weeks ago the INS announced they were going into the plant to check the documentation of all aliens working there. The next day 106 workers never showed up for work.

The plant now has approximately 200 job openings. One of our guys was sent down there to do the hiring and as of the day before yesterday, he said that of the 40 people he has hired so far, 20 have quit.

If there are any FReepers in that area looking for work, let me know and I can certainly guarantee you an interview........

50 posted on 05/07/2005 5:24:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 32 years of dealing with stupid people I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.)
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To: two134711; infidel dog; ClearCase_guy

I live in California and don't know much about Connecticut. I was relying on the article to provide the salient facts of the story. In my state it seems sometimes that standing around on street corners, blocking traffic, and scaring off citizens is the main occupation of illegals.


51 posted on 05/07/2005 6:47:26 PM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: M. Thatcher

I was referring to the folks in Scarsdale, Pound Ridge and Chappaqua. The only folks from Westchester I meet who really give a sh-t about immigration are the usual suspects (blue collar white Catholics from North Yonkers, Dobbs Ferry, etc.), who are a minority in the county. Westchester has been blue for some time, with the limousine liberals who move up to the towns I initially mentioned from Manhattan after they decide to breed. They vote for the same liberal Dems as they did when they lived in the city. Immigration is not a major priority for them.


52 posted on 05/07/2005 10:19:15 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: Clemenza

BTW: I meant a more SUBURBANIZED version of Manhattan, limousine liberal politics and all.


53 posted on 05/07/2005 10:20:52 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: ikka

Sounds like this homeowner might be spending some time with the IRS dudes. If he was pulling in $50k per year on revenue, and not reporting it...then he will get a visit. He better hope that no one from IRS reads the local news or can add up profits.


54 posted on 05/07/2005 10:22:40 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: M. Thatcher
Whatever one's position is, the folks who HIRE the illegals to mow their lawns, work as nannies, work on their construction sites, work in their restaurants and pizzerias, etc., are VERY MUCH a part of the problem. Whining about some legal defense group isn't going to do much. We must put pressure on 1. our politicians to have the balls to enforce the laws. Remember that it is these politicians who appoint our judges in the first place and 2. Our neighbors who hire these folks.

But since you live in a county where people vote for the likes of Nita Lowey and Eliot Engel (who was my former congressman, btw. A step up from his predecessor Mario Biaggi, but still a scumbag), you are SCREWED.

55 posted on 05/07/2005 10:27:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: two134711; Xenalyte
Don't worry I'm not Xenalyte. :) I'm not a stickler for proper grammar

Xenalyte is indeed a stickler for grammar, but she is my sister-in-law so I can talk behind her back. You really shouldn't.

56 posted on 05/07/2005 10:33:45 PM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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To: Clemenza
Mario Biaggi

Wasn't he the gun grabbing former cop who was a crook?

57 posted on 05/07/2005 10:35:08 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Get in the ring!")
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To: Dan from Michigan
Yep. Pocketed a sh-tload of money through the Wedtech corporation, a private-public urban development project which was an attempt to make the Bronx a high-tech center (laugh all you want, I still do). In addition to directing most of the contracts to his freinds construction business, Mario was also taking kickbacks for "access" to the project as well. It was a BIG SCANDAL when I was a kids.

Yes, he was a MAJOR gun grabber. As was the longtime RINO Bronx State Senator Guy Vellella, who was also eventually indicted.

58 posted on 05/07/2005 10:41:48 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

BTW: Forgive my grammar, I was partying a little too early tonight, if you know what I mean (my guests are still here).


59 posted on 05/07/2005 10:43:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: Clemenza

too much information... esp. when you have no webcam to prove it.


60 posted on 05/07/2005 10:44:57 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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