Myths and lies of illegal immigration

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[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Re: the pictures of the tattooed gang members - I wonder how many of the open borders supporters would like these guys living next door...

Especially considering what some of those tatoos mean. They must be earned. And not in the same way one earns an Eagle Scout badge.

[shellshocked]

Each tear means he killed someone. For him, that means two.

[janetgreen]

Those scumbags are a big reason why many people won't go shopping in L.A. anymore. They're a scary bunch.

The mayoral candidate (Villagairose) who is trying to unseat the present mayor of L.A. (Hahn) actually fought against a gang injunction in L.A., and he supported the practice of "no ask, no tell" regarding immigration status by the police. Can you believe this guy is supposedly ahead of Hahn in the polls?

Anyone saying that this is not an invasion is a liar, or is deaf and dumb. We're being outnumbered, we're being colonized.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

We're being outnumbered, we're being colonized.

At what point, do you think, there will arise in this country an underground society that will start eliminating large numbers of these types of "colonists"? A white ninjitsu of sorts. A backlash is coming. It's only a matter of 'when'.

[Dad yer funny]

ping mark

[TomasUSMC]

Outstanding

[MamaTexan]

In addition to number 3. illegals carry a host of diseases that are caught in the screening process for LEGALS.

Tuberculosis and others previously almost eradicated in the US are now significantly on the rise in areas with a high illegal population.

Our government is literally killing us by not fulfilling their enumerated duty to secure the border!

[janetgreen]

underground society

According to a statement made to me by a police officer friend, I think that type of retaliation may have already started. There's lots of "gang killings" going on. We just don't really know "who killed who".

I think it will escalate as people get more and more fed up with being forced by our own government to support and put up with these scumbags.

[Happy2BMe]

A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform

Gingrich urges action against illegals

[Happy2BMe]

Myths and Legends About Illegal Immigration

[Czar]

"...from the illegal-alien lovers convention...

I take it you are referring to the FOQNA loon hyena pack...

[blackie]

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!

[G.Mason]

Ping bump!

[raybbr]

...FOQNA...

Okay. I'll bite. ????????

[shellshocked]

"7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. "

So true, especially when one considers that a majority of our winter fruit comes from South America and not the US. We import massive amounts of fruits and vegetables from South America during the months we are buried under snow.

If illegal labor provided such cheap produce then why do we pay the same for fruits and vegetables during the years regardles of where they come from? Proof enough.

[TAdams8591]

Good article. Thank you for the post.

[rodguy911]

I had no idea the fence was that much, does your 10 billion dollar figure include every cost to the country; medical, SS, welfare, crime you name it.Ten billion is a lot but it seems to me I have seen higher figures, but can't substantiate right now. There are a million hidden costs to putting up with illegal aliens from increased law enforcement to job displacement. It's a tough figure to estimate.

[FBD]

>"I had no idea the fence was that much"<

-Yes, that is an estimate based on what Israel spent on it's fence. Israel's fence costs between 2 to 4 million per mile, but it's a pretty elaborate system.
Our border has some pretty tough terrain, however, and access would require some utility/ maintenance road building.
8 billion is a realistic number.

I believe a border fence/wall with Mexico is going to happen, eventually. Of course there will be proper exit entry stations at all the roadways.

>"does your 10 billion dollar figure include every cost to the country; medical, SS, welfare, crime you name it.Ten billion is a lot but it seems to me I have seen higher figures, but can't substantiate right now."<

I've seen estimates that are considered accurate, that illegals cost as much as 26 billion, yet contribute 16 about billion in taxes. (That includes FICA)

That is where the 10 billion dollar figure comes from; the deficit between what they contribute, and what they use in govt services, including the costs you mentioned.
Those numbers are from FAIR.

But as you said, that is hard to estimate, and some of the costs are intangible, like job displacement, victims of illegal alien crime, etc.

[FBD]

Here's the article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug25.html

Illegal Immigrants' Cost to Government Studied

By Mary Fitzgerald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 26, 2004; Page A21

"A report that found that illegal immigrants in the United States cost the federal government more than $10 billion a year -- a sum it estimated would almost triple if they were given amnesty -- has drawn criticism from immigration advocacy groups.

For its report, the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based group that advocates tougher immigration policies, used Census Bureau figures to compare the revenue that illegal immigrants contribute through taxes with the cost of government services they use."

Illegal immigrants create a fiscal deficit because they have low incomes, Steven A. Camarota said. (Robert A. Reede - Robert A. Reeder -- The Washington Post)


"Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study.

[Comus]

My biggest fear is that the Democrats (HRC) will suddenly become anti illegal alien, just long enough to regain power and advance socialism/statism. There are a lot of people in this country that want to hear some national leader take a stand against illegals. Don't put it past her.