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Avian Flu Surveillance Project
Various ^ | May 9, 2005 | Vanity

Posted on 05/09/2005 10:18:08 AM PDT by Dog Gone

Some folks suggested that we begin a thread similar to the Marsburg Surveillance Project for monitoring developments regarding Avian Flu.

The purpose is to have an extended thread where those interested can post articles and comments as this story unfolds.

If we're lucky, the story and this thread will fade away.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ah5n1genotypez; avian; avianflu; avianflubirdflu; avianinfluenza; bird; birdflu; flu; h5n1; h5n1project; outbreak; reassortment; spanishflu; theskyisfalling
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Menacing changes seen in Vietnam bird flu

The deadly H5N1 bird flu strain that has been plaguing southeast Asia appears to be evolving in a way that may signal a greater threat of a human flu pandemic, according to a World Health Organization report.

Human cases of avian influenza in northern Vietnam in 2005 are showing an epidemiological pattern and virological features which differ from those seen in the 2004 cases. They also differ from those currently seen in human cases in southern Vietnam and other Asian countries.

In particular, though not yet proven, the differences indicate the virus may have already been transmitted from human-to-human, a worrying prospect. It also suggests the viral strain in northern Vietnam may be more infectious but less virulent than elsewhere, i.e. more easily spread but less likely to cause death in sufferers.

“While the implications of these epidemiological and virological findings are not fully clear, they demonstrate that the viruses are continuing to evolve and pose a continuing and potentially growing pandemic threat,” says the WHO report on influenza A/H5N1 in humans in Asia. The report is based on its consultation meeting of experts in Manila, Philippines on 6 and 7 May.

The great fear is that bird flu could hybridise with human influenza or evolve to create a deadly and easily transmissible pandemic strain that could sweep across the globe, killing millions.

“Things are getting more and more worrisome,” says flu expert John Oxford, at Queen Mary University of London, UK. “It does look as though the virus is moving towards being less virulent but more infectious – if that’s the way it’s going, that’s not good news at all.”

Symptomless cases

The WHO document notes that while 83% of human cases in southern Vietnam die, and 71% of cases in Thailand in 2004. In northern Vietnam, the strain is felling 34% of sufferers, though that would still be devastating if millions of people became infected.

Furthermore, three cases of symptomless infections have also been seen in people who had close contact with confirmed cases in Vietnam “suggesting that milder H5N1 infections are occurring”.

“A virus with a mortality rate of 70% is never going to get very far,” says Oxford, as too many hosts die before infecting large numbers of other people. But he believes that if the virus really has changed in virulence, human-to-human transmission may be the next step.

Other evidence pointing to a change in the virus’s nature includes more clusters of human cases in north Vietnam compared with the south. The ages of victims has also changed in northern Vietnam, with the average age rising from 17 in 2004 to 31 in 2005. The range of ages affected is also much wider, from babies to people over 80.

Lab observations indicate the virus has changed. Specific gene changes have been pinpointed in the Vietnam strains from 2005, although it is unclear what their significance is.

Crippled virus

Analysis also revealed that drug resistance to the flu drug oseltamivir had partially evolved in one patient treated with the medicine. “The community emergence and spread of viruses resistant to oseltamivir, if it were to occur, would have significant implications for prevention and control,” warns the document.

However, Oxford believes this is less concerning than the other changes. He says full drug resistance in human flu strains somewhat “cripples” their effectiveness in spreading.

The WHO recommends that countries ramp up their flu pandemic preparedness plans, stockpile antiviral drugs, and explore ways of making human H5N1 vaccine available to affected Asian countries before a pandemic develops.

Though the situation is concerning, it “still hasn’t exploded”, notes Oxford. “We have more time to prepare ourselves,” he told New Scientist. But countries without a pandemic preparedness plan “should wake up”, he says, “otherwise it’ll be like a tsunami wave and we’ll all be caught in it”.

Link to New Scientist

121 posted on 05/19/2005 3:42:25 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Judith Anne

Jeepers. Not again. I can't handle these scares. (Let's hope it never amounts to more than a scare!) Ping me when it's time to hit the Xanax! (just kidding, sort of)


122 posted on 05/19/2005 7:03:35 PM PDT by riri
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To: Dog Gone; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; ...

Pinging the list to post 121.


123 posted on 05/19/2005 7:09:58 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: riri
I dunno. Everything is in place to make this the worst flu season that most of us can recall in our lifetimes, and perhaps even before that.

And it looks like we won't have a vaccine in place for it. If we will, then for some reason the vaccine makers aren't announcing it. The decrease in mortality rate is only somewhat encouraging as it becomes more contagious. It's still outrageously high.

124 posted on 05/19/2005 7:10:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: riri

Hiya, riri.

I remember how fast, and how easily SARS got to North America...this flu might be a problem this fall and winter...


125 posted on 05/19/2005 7:16:17 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

I'm speechless.


126 posted on 05/19/2005 7:48:58 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

How so? (Hi!)


127 posted on 05/19/2005 7:52:27 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Dog Gone
What the government fails to tell us...Amazing how a good reporter can put 2 + 2 together and get a story when the rest of the stupid press are drinking coffee and eating donuts waiting for the CDC, WHO, or some other talking head to tell them their story. I think the MSM should clean house and start from scratch.

2005 Flu Pandemic Start Signal Recombinomics Commentary May 19, 2005 >> During 15 - 25 April, 2005, a WHO team of expert consultants was invited by the authorities in Viet Nam to assess the current H5N1 situation, especially in Northern Viet Nam. Based on the epidemiological information presented, this team concluded that the epidemiology of H5N1 could be changing in that part of the country and that the risk for pandemic influenza could have risen. Therefore a second urgent Expert Consultation was held involving a group of epidemiologists, virologists, public health and animal health experts with international experience, and country representatives from Cambodia, Thailand, and Viet Nam. << The above sequence of events appears to confirm the start of the 2005 bird flu pandemic. The dates above coincide with media reports indicating that the Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology in Hanoi had collected 1000 serum samples from people and animals in northern Vietnam. These samples would seem to have included samples from the outbreaks in Quang Binh in the central highlands, as well as the northern Vietnam clusters in Thai Binh, Haiphong, and Quang Ninh. Media reports of these outbreaks strongly suggested that these samples would be positive. The samples were sent to the CDC in Atlanta for analysis, and the holding of a second urgent Expert Consultation strongly implies that the number of positives in the 1000 samples was significant. These epidemiological data were then supported by H5N1 sequence data which further signaled significant genetic changes, leading to the disclosure of the information in the report on the May 6-7 Manila meeting. The data are certainly consistent with the start of the 2005 pandemic. http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05190504/H5N1_Pandemic_Signal.html

128 posted on 05/19/2005 7:54:00 PM PDT by unseen
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To: Judith Anne

(HI!!)

It's late, I'm tired and I'm not sure if I read the post you pinged us to properly - so it is best I don't comment until I can read it properly - in the morning :) That's why I'm speechless.


129 posted on 05/19/2005 7:57:29 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

It is surprising, isn't it?

SARS, by strong measures, was stopped...

Last winter, though, in addition to Hub and I getting the flu, after not having it for literally years, we both did.

Mine was mild, but he got pneumonia after nearly being done with the flu...he's well now, but that was really a surprise to both of us.

I can't tell you how many people I've known who've had the flu this past year, and really bad cases of it--and it seems to really hang on, and on...

I am NOT looking forward to a worse flu than this past year was, that's for sure...


130 posted on 05/19/2005 8:07:13 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

Sounds like my house this past winter. Except I was the one that got hit the worst, although obviously not as bad as your hub.

I'm with you - am not looking forward to a worse season.

And now I am REALLY going to keep that date with the pillow :)


131 posted on 05/19/2005 8:30:09 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Judith Anne

I'm completely astonished at the money and attention being paid by the MSM and the politicians to things like smoking and obesity and yet I rarely,except here on FR,read anything about marburg or sars or Avian flu.

My mother was in her teens and often talked about the flu pandemic in 1918 and she said it was just awful.

A book called "Flu" by Gina Kolata brought the horror of it to me.

I certainly hope the government can push for something to be developed before we have a pandemic like 1918.


132 posted on 05/19/2005 9:47:37 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

Avian flu is a real risk for the future. If I lived in the city, I'd be REALLY concerned about what may be coming.

A couple of years ago, when SARS was a concern, our family made the contingency plans we'd need in case of a genuine pandemic. It was a useful exercise; I think everyone ought to have such plans.


133 posted on 05/19/2005 10:05:11 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

Morning Judith,

My family also has some contingency plans (or Bug Out of Iowa, BOI), but what worries me is the speed this could happen. Get a communicable case in say the O'Hare airport, and it will be all over the US in a day.

One other question for all those here. It is the winter season for those south of the equator now. Is it also the flu season down there?


134 posted on 05/20/2005 5:43:50 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Dog Gone
Can't say you didn't warn us :~(

sw

135 posted on 05/20/2005 5:51:09 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre
I wish warning was sufficient. A person can take extraordinary steps with hygiene and still come in contact with a virus that is airborne.

Going into isolation for the entire flu season simply isn't an option many of us have.

The mortality rate from this bug simply has to drop from 38% to far less than 1% before I'll feel relatively secure.

136 posted on 05/20/2005 7:45:22 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Granted.. But the posted Death rate may be way to high if the milder cases that everyone suspects are not being counted. So basically it's 34% if you are sick enough to warrant medical care.
137 posted on 05/20/2005 12:37:52 PM PDT by unseen
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To: unseen
The prospects for an epidemic of flu that could perhaps kill 1/3rd of my family in the next year is sufficient motivation to keep me monitoring the situation, especially since my wife works at a hospital.

My expectation is that this strain will drop to probably less than a 5% mortality rate, but even that is staggering.

138 posted on 05/20/2005 12:46:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Afternoon sir,

I asked Judith, but I will ask you also. Since it is the winter season south of the equator, is it the flu season for them also?


139 posted on 05/20/2005 12:52:36 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
I just don't know. It seems intuitive that it's the start of their flu season, but I'm not sure there's anything approaching what we think of winter in Vietnam or Thailand.

I've always thought that flu season here was brought about primarily by people congregating indoors during cold weather. I'm not sure that the temperature or the season has anything directly to do with the flu. I'll bet I'd catch it on the 4th of July if I were exposed to it.

140 posted on 05/20/2005 1:05:26 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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