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New Law to Curb Ability of Illegal Immigrants to Get US ID Cards(ACLU Alert)
Voice of America News ^ | 5/11/2005 | Brian Purchia

Posted on 05/11/2005 8:10:35 AM PDT by CompSciGuy

The United States is about to make it more difficult for people to get a driver's license. The Real I.D. act would standardize license requirements nationwide - forcing all 50 states to verify that each applicant is in the country legally. Some say the bill, passed by Congress this week, is the first step toward establishing a U.S. national ID card.

For almost a century, each U.S. state has been responsible for issuing its own driver's licenses. There has been no national standard.

Eleven states currently grant licenses to non-citizens. A license can be used to do many things in the United States from boarding a plane to opening a bank account.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006; 2006elections; aclu; acorn; aliens; az; borders; ca; ct; driverlicense; heritagefoundation; laraza; maldef; mecha; mexa; nationalid; nc; nm; nv; or; realid; realidact; ri; soros; tx; ut; voa
Once again the ACLU seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill. We already have several national ID's, why not keep illegals from possing them. I'd appreciate comments, Thanks.
1 posted on 05/11/2005 8:10:35 AM PDT by CompSciGuy
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To: CompSciGuy

Illegal immigrants shouldn't have IDs whatsoever. We cannot grant them rewards for breaking the law.


2 posted on 05/11/2005 8:11:28 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: CompSciGuy

This is all about laying the groundwork for illegals and non-citizens to vote.


3 posted on 05/11/2005 8:12:44 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: CompSciGuy

The answer is "stop accepting driver's licenses" for anything but driving a car, cashing a check, or getting alcohol/cigarettes.

When travelling on a plane, presenting ID for social security, etc. use a passport. THAT is a federal ID.


4 posted on 05/11/2005 8:15:31 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: CompSciGuy
For once, I'm gladdened by the ACLU's mourning. Make no mistake about it, they're a destructive Leftist, pro-illegal immigration and anti-American cult. And their opposition to making our country more secure from future 9/11 type attacks speaks for itself.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
5 posted on 05/11/2005 8:16:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: weegee
I use my passport to travel, as well. Having done the paperwork for that, and now having it I've found it to be the most convenient document to state who I am. Especially since employers, airlines, you name it, take it in lieu of a birth certificate. One of the better ID's to carry IMHO.
Cheers,
CSG
6 posted on 05/11/2005 8:19:52 AM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: CompSciGuy

"A license can be used to do many things in the United States from boarding a plane to opening a bank account."

Unmentioned is the concept that we aren't going to ban tourists from planes, thus the types of FOREIGN ID allowed for domestic flights is not mentioned.


7 posted on 05/11/2005 8:20:51 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: JesseJane
This is all about laying the groundwork for illegals and non-citizens to vote.

I don't follow. How?

8 posted on 05/11/2005 8:23:22 AM PDT by grellis ("Unless, God forbid, there are two Placentas walking around"--FR demkicker)
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To: grellis
Worth a read. LULAC's apparent attempt to denigrate the meaning and value of U.S. citizenship extends to the franchise. In The 1998 LULAC Legislative Platform, the organization appears to condone, if not actually promote, the violation of this country's election laws. According to the section entitled ''Voter Registration and Citizenship'' ''LULAC actively encourages eligible Hispanics to fully participate in the democratic process and register to vote. We also encourage those who are eligible to become citizens'' (italics added). Since the law states one must be a U.S. citizen in order to be eligible to vote, the wording of this LULAC platform encourages voter fraud.

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• MALDEF successfully lobbied for passage of the ''motor-voter'' bill of 1993 that allows voter registration at welfare offices or when applying for a drivers' license; mandates mail-in voter registration and discourages States from verifying the applicant's eligibility or citizenship.

9 posted on 05/11/2005 8:28:14 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: WoofDog123
Unmentioned is the concept that we aren't going to ban tourists from planes, thus the types of FOREIGN ID allowed for domestic flights is not mentioned.

Ahh, but when Mr. Terrorist boards with a foreign id we at least have a country to go stomp for giving/losing the ID to the terrorist. Besides, then we can see the baddies by the colors of their foreign ID's, and the states can point and say 'it wasn't me'.
Cheers,
CSG

10 posted on 05/11/2005 8:29:35 AM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: CompSciGuy

This is troubling in that it present yet another means of "identification" that the government would have to track with regards to illegal aliens, terrorist activity, etc. There is already to much red-tape with regards to the procedures used to track and monitor individuals. Do we really need more? Along the same lines, why would an illegal alien even have use for an ID card? Have they now become entitled to something? If anything, maybe they could start paying taxes like the rest of us. Thanks for the post.


12 posted on 05/11/2005 9:30:06 AM PDT by johnlaw
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To: ironfang

Stop making sense !!


13 posted on 05/11/2005 10:39:49 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: CompSciGuy
I use my passport to travel, as well. Having done the paperwork for that, and now having it I've found it to be the most convenient document to state who I am. Especially since employers, airlines, you name it, take it in lieu of a birth certificate. One of the better ID's to carry IMHO.

Some time in the next year the U.S. passport will be updated to include an RFID. The fees for passports are going up to cover the expense. I just renewed mine before the new RFID rules took effect.

14 posted on 05/11/2005 11:05:30 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
Thanks, But my passport is still good for another four years. I suppose I'll just have to suck up the cost :-(.
Cheers,
CSG
15 posted on 05/11/2005 11:25:39 AM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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