The only thing more outrageous than China's demands are those that have repeatedly insisted something like this could never happen.
To: Golden Eagle
Pffft... if any 'up and coming' nation is going to steal the software sector from us its India, not the Chinese.
Me thinks china is overplaying its "we have a massive market" card.
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FYI. Please ping others if you maintain a list.
3 posted on
05/13/2005 8:42:28 PM PDT by
Golden Eagle
(Team America)
To: Golden Eagle
HA! China...the "copy it and sell as your own" Nation!
4 posted on
05/13/2005 8:43:30 PM PDT by
Dallas59
(" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
To: Golden Eagle
The only thing more outrageous than China's demands are those that have repeatedly insisted something like this could never happen. Wrong.
The demands from the clowns in Mexico are most offensive, and more obvious.
Still, your point is well taken.
What is one to do?
Chicoms on the left....import city.....
Mexico on the south....illegal import city....
Nuke 'em.
Next problem?
LVM
9 posted on
05/13/2005 9:24:04 PM PDT by
LasVegasMac
("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
To: Golden Eagle
The Chinese will virtually ALWAYS make demands that are to us outraeous.
And, they will laugh at us and lose all respect for us and treat us as easily managed; easily conquered serfs whenever we let them get away with it.
Certainly they will scream; throw dust in the air and make multiple big serious scenes if we do NOT let them get away with it. But the only time they will treat us as anything approaching civilized equals is when we force them to treat us as equals--as much as any Westerner can force Asians to do that. Which, usually, is not much.
10 posted on
05/13/2005 9:26:03 PM PDT by
Quix
(LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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11 posted on
05/13/2005 9:41:33 PM PDT by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Golden Eagle
Flame me as needed guys...
It's really time to take off the kid gloves period. Someone should start a national signature drive like the Recall Davis, and kick the UN out of the US. However this drive should aim to remove every US Senator and House member. These guys have strayed so far off course with our country it sickens me. The few good guys are drowned out by the total bipartisan political hackery. We are in the middle of the war on terror, huge deficits, and we have three nations ( N. Korea, China and Iran ) on our "about to get whupped" radar and our elected officials are debating steroids in baseball. It's time for new leadership that will put America first.
In regards to China's insane demands, they are trying to partner up with India to create the hardware/software capitol of the world where China makes the hardware with child/slave/prison labor and India provides the software. This is just a lame attempt on China's part to make china the hardware/software capitol. China's economy and military are growing at a (supposedly) insanely good rate. They are on the highway to evil superpowerdom.
However right now we could cut them off short and most likely destroy the commies without firing a shot. If we were to ship a backbone to congress they could
A) Stop the planned import of junk Chinese cars. It's not free/fair trade if one trading partner literally uses slave labor to compete in the other's market that doesn't use it.
B) Demand without exception or delay that China lets it's currency be naturally adjusted on the open market. The currency would instantly (and for a short term IMO) jump twenty to thirty percent thus making their garbage more expensive and less desired. This would virtually sink their economy. If this happened then the peasant masses would most likely revolt and then you could kiss our commie friends goodbye as in most Chinese revolutions they lose up to 40% of their population.
While I don't wish for upwards of 500 million people to die it would be vastly in our best interests to get this showdown over with while we can take them and before we lose half of the Pro baseball players.
China is planning 100 to 200 years down the line and we are spending millions to figure out why chimps pick their noses.
13 posted on
05/13/2005 9:56:05 PM PDT by
bbenton
To: Golden Eagle
Just don't buy. Don't buy anything that we don't really need. The dollar is still too high. In software, build consultant teams for projects. Get away from dependence on employers, and compete.
15 posted on
05/13/2005 10:41:51 PM PDT by
familyop
("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
To: Golden Eagle
So, it is time to start exporting viruses. They want no working computers, fine.
20 posted on
05/13/2005 11:08:40 PM PDT by
JasonC
To: Golden Eagle
Arrogant "Middle Kingdom" mofos.
24 posted on
05/14/2005 2:00:09 AM PDT by
dennisw
(the country music station plays soft but there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off)
To: Golden Eagle
Kind of reminds me of some crazy demands that the US made of Japan back in 80's.
27 posted on
05/14/2005 6:06:23 AM PDT by
dr_who_2
To: Golden Eagle
COUNTERVAILING
Subsidies and countervailing measures
The WTO Agreement on Subsidies and Countervailing Measures disciplines the use of subsidies, and it regulates the actions countries can take to counter the effects of subsidies. Under the agreement, a country can use the WTOs dispute-settlement procedure to seek the withdrawal of the subsidy or the removal of its adverse effects. Or the country can launch its own investigation and ultimately charge extra duty (countervailing duty) on subsidized imports that are found to be hurting domestic producers.
WE need to play much harder
28 posted on
05/14/2005 6:13:05 AM PDT by
colonialhk
(sooprize sooprize sooprize)
To: Golden Eagle
The proposed rules require American companies seeking to do business with the Chinese government to manufacture all their products in China and register the copyrights in Beijing. In addition, at least 50 percent of the product development must be done in China. We do that for a lot of military procurement. A pistol contract required that after an initial run all must be made in the USA. This case if funny though, as if copyrights meant anything to the Chinese.
To: Golden Eagle
There really is no market in China. This is mercantilism, right down to stealing the intellectual property.
The ONLY market in China is for things you can't OVERTLY steal: raw commodities. Who's to say when all of that might change too.
37 posted on
05/14/2005 8:48:02 AM PDT by
RinaseaofDs
(The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
To: Golden Eagle
The essential problem is that the US high tech management, most of them delusional, utopian Baby Boomers who have read and agree with "The Lexus and the Olive Tree," absolutely refuse to accept the fact that they are making deals with Communists who hate the West.
47 posted on
05/17/2005 9:55:57 AM PDT by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: Golden Eagle
When are we going to have an administration/congress that is going to kick the s**t out of China and its multinational syncophants (including many US multinational entities) until they actually start trading fairly. I can't think of any one in my lifetime that has done a goddamn thing. Retaliatory tariffs, quotas, and any other economic sanction you can think of until they play by the same rules we do. How about a one day moratorium of buying any of their crap for a day.
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