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Schiavo-like Woman in Recovery Miracle
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/13/200909.shtml ^ | Newsmax

Posted on 05/14/2005 8:33:55 AM PDT by Bigh4u2

Schiavo-like Woman in Recovery Miracle

A severely brain-damaged Kansas woman who couldn't talk or feed herself after a car accident two years ago has inexplicably regained those abilities, confounding the predictions of doctors.

Tracy Gaskill, 30, began speaking and swallowing about three weeks ago, family members and medical personnel told the Associated Press. Gaskill had suffered head trauma and internal injuries after her car rolled over on a highway in September 2002.

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KEYWORDS: allterriallthetime; braindamage; coma; differentcase; donaldherbert; fluidskull; irrelevant; letterrigo; notthisagain; schiavo; schindler; scottthomas; shesdeadjim; terrischiavo; terriscult; tracygaskill
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1 posted on 05/14/2005 8:33:56 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Maybe someone can talk to Michael Schiavo and Judge Greer so they can go up there and kill her. She should be dead.


2 posted on 05/14/2005 8:35:14 AM PDT by putupjob
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To: Future Useless Eater

If only Terri had been given the chance, who knows?


3 posted on 05/14/2005 8:35:57 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Bigh4u2
Schiavo-like Woman

Reads like some sort of sub species.

4 posted on 05/14/2005 8:37:04 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Bigh4u2

I'm sure her first words were "If only I were married to Michael Schiavo."


5 posted on 05/14/2005 8:38:26 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: TADSLOS

I hope the ACLU vigorously appeals her decision to recover. She has clearly inifringed upon her own right to die and been denied the euphoria of starvation.


6 posted on 05/14/2005 8:41:09 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Bigh4u2

bttt

http://www.theempirejournal.com/514054_cognizant_jacksonville_ma.htm


EXCLUSIVE!!!!!!!!!
Cognizant Jacksonville Man in Life and Death Tug-of-War


7 posted on 05/14/2005 8:42:35 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar

bttt


8 posted on 05/14/2005 8:47:40 AM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: tutstar

Hammesfahr should really insist that people, including reporters, etc., cease referring to him as a Nobel Prize nominee. It must be embarrassing for him since he isn't a Nobel Prize nominee.


9 posted on 05/14/2005 8:50:37 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Bigh4u2

I'm really tired of medical threads posted for the sake of making them about Terri.


10 posted on 05/14/2005 8:52:04 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Then don't read them.

Pretty simple, huh?


11 posted on 05/14/2005 8:52:53 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Thanks for posting it.


12 posted on 05/14/2005 8:54:46 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Bigh4u2

The mother of a friend at our church was declared brain-dead and hopeless by (I'm told) either 5 or 6 neurologists. They were literally hours away from removing the feeding tube, breathing device, everything -- and she came to. Opened her eyes, started interacting, responding to questions. Still distance to go, but she's back. It is, by all I've heard, genuinely miraculous.

"Who knows?" indeed.

Dan


13 posted on 05/14/2005 8:55:07 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Dante3

You're welcome.


14 posted on 05/14/2005 8:55:40 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

I'm interested in medical stories, I just wish every thread didn't try to re-hash Terri Schiavo. Every case is different, and they deserve to be thought of as real people, not 'terri-like people, OK?


15 posted on 05/14/2005 8:57:43 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bigh4u2; All

Does anyone have the link to the story about a man that doctors said was like Terry Schiavo, who after 10 years woke up and is talking and walking? Just happended a couple weeks ago...


16 posted on 05/14/2005 8:58:52 AM PDT by Libertina (If illegals don't have to obey US laws, NEITHER DO WE!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

So should everyone just stop posting these cases because you feel uncomfortable about it?

Well,unfortunately, (or fortunately,depending on your point of view) all medical cases that are similar to Terri's will make the comparison,because Terri's case has now set the standard.

It may be something you don't like, but it's going to be unavoidable.



17 posted on 05/14/2005 9:00:39 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: tutstar

Can you figure out a way to get that article sent to Mark Furman? There is some info there that he can use to help make his case in the Terri S. case.


18 posted on 05/14/2005 9:00:49 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Bigh4u2

Forget it. Don't worry yourself. Nevermind.


19 posted on 05/14/2005 9:02:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bigh4u2

One suspects that there are some guilty consciences involved in these complaints: every time another person (not vegetable, please note) starts regaining faculties, it's a reminder that maybe Terri shouldn't have been killed.


20 posted on 05/14/2005 9:02:30 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
While Gaskill's case doesn't parallel the late Terri Schiavo's exactly - Schiavo was in what some experts said was a persistent vegetative state for 15 years - ...

Yeah, but that won't stop the medical experts here.

21 posted on 05/14/2005 9:02:54 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: MizSterious

You're right.

Like I said, the comparisons are going to be unavoidable.

Even if the cases aren't 'exact'.


22 posted on 05/14/2005 9:05:00 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Wasn't worried to begin with.


23 posted on 05/14/2005 9:05:31 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: WVNan

It probably already has been sent to him. Freepers who were in contact with him re Terri received the article as soon as it was posted.

Sen Jim King is my senator. I wonder if he'll have a big dramatic display for the public on this man's case like he did in the senate when they were debating a bill that would have saved Terri.

I've sent the article link to the news media in Jax, so we'll see if they make an 'attempt' to report on it. They are so disgusting imo, they do local stories but rehash AP articles on other stuff.


24 posted on 05/14/2005 9:08:08 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar

Thanks. I hope some are in contact with M.F. It makes me sad to know that Sen. King was so deeply involved with Terri's case. He should have recused himself. Sad that he's a Republican too. Must be a real RINO. BTW, this man's case should be under investigation by the Attor. Gen. Why on earth would the law drop this when there was so much evidence?


26 posted on 05/14/2005 9:17:58 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Clara Lou; tutstar

Hammesfahr had written a complete report concerning the Schiavo case in September, 2002, revealing that medical tests conducted after her collapse did not show evidence of a heart attack as had been claimed.

Back to the heart attack nonsense. Schiavo experienced 'cardiac arrest' which is not the same thing as a heart attack. From Hammesfahr's report:

Paramedics were called, and aggressive resuscitation was performed with 7 defibrillations en route.

In the Emergency Room, a possible diagnosis of heart attack was briefly entertained, but then dismissed after blood chemistries and serial EKG's did not show evidence of a heart attack.

Link

Why even bring up the heart attack business? Unless, of course, the writer is trying to distort a situation? Or doesn't have sufficient medical background to even be writing articles of a medical nature in the first place?

27 posted on 05/14/2005 9:18:49 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Donnie Donovon

She was not dying and to cause her death was to usurp her Maker's authority. Dangerous thing to do.


28 posted on 05/14/2005 9:19:23 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Donnie Donovon

More nonesense from the death-cult, I see.


29 posted on 05/14/2005 9:20:30 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: elli1

Distortion is what some of these people do best. Whatever it takes to promote their agenda of killing off the disabled and elderly.


30 posted on 05/14/2005 9:21:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Donnie Donovon

So does that mean they should have let this woman 'die peaceably' too?

"Sarah Scantlin, 38, unexpectedly began recovering from a severe brain injury that left her speechless and unable to feed herself for 20 years."

If I recall this case, doctors also said she was in a 'persistive vegatative state'.

Who, other than God, has the right to decide when it is your time to die?

Because Florida had a part in their law that said a feeding tube was 'artificial'?
A 'supplement', by the way, that was 'added' to allow people like Terri to be put to death, because it was an 'oversite' when they wrote the original law.

What's next?

Air?


31 posted on 05/14/2005 9:22:40 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Donnie Donovon; tutstar
"There were close to 21 trials over this..."

But only one where the facts of the case were heard. The rest were rubberstamping the original hearing.

32 posted on 05/14/2005 9:23:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Wait until the elderly find out this is the way the 'Rats plan to "fix" social security--after 60, no more food, water or air. Problem solved. AARP, beware.


33 posted on 05/14/2005 9:26:12 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Bigh4u2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401378/posts

More in this other thread from a few days ago.


34 posted on 05/14/2005 9:26:37 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: MizSterious

My comments were directed to the article linked in Post #7.


35 posted on 05/14/2005 9:26:57 AM PDT by elli1
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To: MizSterious

Actually, they weren't even rubber stamping the original hearing, but the judicial 'procedure'.

No facts, either about the case OR the hearing, where heard in the appeals process.

Never are.


36 posted on 05/14/2005 9:27:24 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Netizen

Thanks.

Did a title search but didn't turn up any other articles.


37 posted on 05/14/2005 9:28:35 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Clara Lou

I read that he was nominated.


38 posted on 05/14/2005 9:28:43 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: MizSterious

I know you said that in jest, but you know what, it may not be far from the truth. Consider that the generation "in control" of the national media (propaganda-thought shaping mechanism)is the "God is dead" generation.


39 posted on 05/14/2005 9:28:59 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: MizSterious

Very true. At least there is a happy ending, unlike this other thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/1402851/posts?page=173

Ms Martin – who served nine months of a 15-month sentence for giving her terminally ill mother an overdose of morphine and then suffocating her with a pillow in 1999 – said the decision to switch off her brother's ventilator was a totally different experience.


40 posted on 05/14/2005 9:30:20 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Bigh4u2
The greatest miracle is the number of brain-dead people employed by local governments.
41 posted on 05/14/2005 9:31:11 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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To: putupjob

Maybe we should charge them with murder instead???


42 posted on 05/14/2005 9:31:25 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: MizSterious
Ohfortheloveofsanity.

There is NO death-cult. There is NO ONE here who wants to kill off the disabled and elderly. No one here is wracked with guilt. So lets just not go casually throwing the 'distortion' word around eh?

This issue is so poisoned with fanatics, I just shouldn't hope I'll ever see really interesting discussion of the issues here. Too bad, because they need to be discussed.

43 posted on 05/14/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: BibChr

"They were literally hours away from removing the feeding tube, breathing device, everything -- and she came to."

Where's George Felos? She was denied her right to a peaceful and euphoric journey to the afterlife. How dare her selfish family not pull the feeding tube earlier. Another gross injustice for the ACLU to intervene.


45 posted on 05/14/2005 9:35:50 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Donnie Donovon

"The courts went over this again and again. "

The only court that the 'facts' of the case were argued in was Greer's court.

All the other courts were 'appeals' courts, and appeals courts do not argue case facts, but argue judical PROCEDURE.

They only concluded that Greers 'procedure' was lawyful and not the 'merits' of the case.


46 posted on 05/14/2005 9:37:13 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Donnie Donovon
Shame on them, and the deep thinkers on this website should realize Ms. Schiavo has met her maker and is in a much better place now.

Shame on you for supporting a Nazi style murder of a woman you claim wasn't here at all. If her brain was mush and she wasn't really here then how could she be in a better place now? She can't be in two places at the same time.

Why would it be necessary to kill her if she felt no pain and wasn’t really there? Her parents wanted to take care of her on the hope that she would someday get better. Why do you think it is a good thing that not only were they denied this chance, they also under a court order could not legally stop their daughter from being starved and dehydrated to death in front of their eyes.

You will meet your maker as well some day. Then you will see how wrong you are if you don’t see it before you die.

47 posted on 05/14/2005 9:37:59 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Hildy
No one here is wracked with guilt.

Yep, just keep telling yourself that.

49 posted on 05/14/2005 9:41:00 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm really tired of medical threads posted for the sake of making them about Terri.

They aren't about Terri. They are about the ethics of euthanasia. Terri is just one highly visible object lesson in that debate, as is the woman in this story.

50 posted on 05/14/2005 9:42:15 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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