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Meet the Poor Republicans
NY Times ^ | May 15, 2005 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 05/14/2005 3:33:42 PM PDT by neverdem

Last week the Pew Research Center came out with a study of the American electorate that crystallized something I've been sensing for a long time: rich people are boring, but poor people are interesting.

The Pew data demonstrated that people at the top of the income scale are divided into stable, polar camps. There are the educated-class liberals - antiwar, pro-choice, anti-tax cuts - who make up about 19 percent of the electorate, according to Pew. And there are business-class conservatives - pro-war, pro-life, pro-tax cut - who make up 11 percent of voters.

These affluent people are pretty well represented by their parties, are not internally conflicted and are pretty much stuck in their ways.

But poorer voters are not like that. They're much more internally conflicted and not represented well by any party. You've got poor Republicans (over 10 percent of voters) who are hawkish on foreign policy and socially conservative, but like government programs and oppose tax cuts. You've got poor Democrats who oppose the war and tax cuts, but are socially conservative and hate immigration. These less-educated voters are more cross-pressured and more independent than educated voters. If you're looking for creative tension, for instability, for a new political movement, the lower middle class is probably where it's going to emerge.

Already, we've seen poorer folks move over in astonishing numbers to the G.O.P. George Bush won the white working class by 23 percentage points in this past election. Many people have wondered why so many lower-middle-class waitresses in Kansas and Hispanic warehouse workers in Texas now call themselves Republicans. The Pew data provide an answer: they agree with Horatio Alger.

These working-class folk like the G.O.P.'s social and foreign policies, but the big difference between poor Republicans and poor Democrats is that the former believe that individuals can make it on their own with hard work and good character.

According to the Pew study, 76 percent of poor Republicans believe most people can get ahead with hard work. Only 14 percent of poor Democrats believe that. Poor Republicans haven't made it yet, but they embrace what they take to be the Republican economic vision - that it is in their power to do so. Poor Democrats are more likely to believe they are in the grip of forces beyond their control.

The G.O.P. succeeds because it is seen as the party of optimistic individualism.

But when you look at how Republicans behave in office, you notice that they are often clueless when it comes to understanding the lower-class folks who put them there. They are good at responding to business-class types and social conservatives, but bad at responding to poor Republicans.

That's because on important issues, the poor Republicans differ from their richer brethren. Poor Republicans aspire to middle-class respectability, but they are suspicious of the rich and of big business. About 83 percent of poor Republicans say big business has too much power, according to Pew, compared with 26 percent of affluent Republicans. If the Ownership Society means owning a home, they're for it. If it means putting their retirement in the hands of Wall Street, they become queasy.

Remember, these Republicans are disproportionately young women with children. Nearly 70 percent have trouble paying their bills every month. They are optimistic about the future, but their fear of their lives falling apart stalks them at night.

Poorer Republicans support government programs that offer security, so long as they don't undermine the work ethic. Eighty percent believe government should do more to help the needy, even if it means going deeper into debt. Only 19 percent of affluent Republicans believe that.

President Bush has made a lot of traditional Republicans nervous with his big-government conservatism. He's increased the growth of nonsecurity domestic spending at a faster rate than Lyndon Johnson and twice as fast as Bill Clinton. But in so doing, he's probably laid down a welcome mat to precisely these poorer folks.

Even so, Republicans have barely thought about how to use government to offer practical encouragement to the would-be Horatio Alger heroes. They've barely explored their biggest growth market. If Republicans can't pass programs like KidSave, which would help poor families build assets for education or retirement, then Hillary Clinton, who is surprisingly popular with poor Republicans, will take their place.

E-mail: dabrooks@nytimes.com


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To: neverdem; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
You've got poor Republicans (over 10 percent of voters) who are hawkish on foreign policy and socially conservative, but like government programs and oppose tax cuts. You've got poor Democrats who oppose the war and tax cuts, but are socially conservative and hate immigration.

Both groups are socially conservative. Democratic fixation of sexual deviations and abortion is what keeps these voters divided. Otherwise the Reagan Democrats would return to their original voting patterns.

81 posted on 05/15/2005 4:53:00 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: neverdem; ColdSpringGirl; maica
The G.O.P. succeeds because it is seen as the party of optimistic individualism.

also the party of the non-elite private sector producers of this country.

Remember, these Republicans are disproportionately young women with children.

and husbands !

82 posted on 05/15/2005 5:03:05 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: cgbg

And how exactly does outsourcing, job-exporting free trade agreements and illegal immigration empower blue collar Americans ?


83 posted on 05/15/2005 5:33:58 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: listenhillary; Melas; Nowhere Man
So what is your solution? Use the power of the government to level the playing field?

Isn't government being used already to tilt the playing field against working Americans ? Government policy determines the level of immigration. A decision to leave a border wide open IS government policy. And the result of that policy is to depress American wages by flooding the labor market with cheap third world labor. Refusing to penalize employers who hire illegals, giving 100,000 H1B applications even as 15% of American tech workers are unemployed ARE government policy.

That would mean taking from the haves (which never works) and taking from the have nots. Sounds like a successful election plan to me!

Sounds like taking from the have nots (which works far too often) and giving to the haves. Great if you live off of investments. Lousy if you live off of a paycheck. Sounds like New Deal II on the way if Hillary can ditch the sodomites.

84 posted on 05/15/2005 5:40:39 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Melas
....They see that people on either side of them don't have this difficulty. The upper class can easily afford such things. The lower class gets it free. They on the other hand work hard, and suffer for it. In ways, they'd be better off poor and they know it.....

Bingo

A glaring paradox of our society today.

And the illegal alien benefits business is bringing it to a head.

The republicans and congress better be very careful.

85 posted on 05/15/2005 5:42:02 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Sam the Sham
Isn't government being used already to tilt the playing field against working Americans ? Government policy determines the level of immigration. A decision to leave a border wide open IS government policy. And the result of that policy is to depress American wages by flooding the labor market with cheap third world labor. Refusing to penalize employers who hire illegals, giving 100,000 H1B applications even as 15% of American tech workers are unemployed ARE government policy.

In agreement with you here.

86 posted on 05/15/2005 5:44:20 AM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: Sam the Sham

You know if the bureaucracy (state and federal) didn't make it so damned hard to start businesses, there would be fewer people needing to "earn a paycheck".


87 posted on 05/15/2005 5:47:36 AM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: neverdem
the big difference between poor Republicans and poor Democrats is that the former believe that individuals can make it on their own with hard work and good character.

The poor Republicans follow American values; the poor Democrats follow Marxism's pessimism.
88 posted on 05/15/2005 5:48:48 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: A. Pole

You are absolutely right.

A Reagan Democrat is not a Republican. He is not a Republican because while he is patriotic and culturally conservative and repulsed by the moral degenerates who have taken over the Democratic Party, he believes that Republicans will look out for fat cats and big money and not working stiffs like him. He believes that GOP economic policy is set by people whose money is in the Cayman Islands and whose sons are most definitely not in Iraq.


89 posted on 05/15/2005 5:52:34 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: neverdem
poor people are interesting

No ivory tower liberals here
90 posted on 05/15/2005 5:56:35 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: listenhillary
Use the power of the government to level the playing field?

Power of government is being used to UNlevel the playing field. When there is s shortage of workers in some field, the market forces are NOT allowed to raise the wages - instead special government program imports cheap workers from abroad.

91 posted on 05/15/2005 6:19:12 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: Sam the Sham
Sounds like New Deal II on the way if Hillary can ditch the sodomites.

This is the key question! Otherwise we have choice between joining Latin America or becoming Sodom and Gomorrah. If so we will have to chose the first.

92 posted on 05/15/2005 6:22:10 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: Livfreeordi
..and I worked and studied hard..and became a professional.. a physician..

Not everyone can or SHOULD be a physician. There are no reason why honest people who do less skilled jobs should live in poverty.

93 posted on 05/15/2005 6:32:27 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: TBall
Why would poor republicans oppose tax cuts. Even if the cuts include the most wealthy, why does this writer think poor republicans oppose?

Deficits?

Whose CHILDREN are going to pay the bill?

94 posted on 05/15/2005 6:37:02 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: A. Pole

Definition of poverty in America?

2-3 TV's
Cable or satellite TV
Couple of cars that run
Housing
Heat/AC
All the best junk food money can buy

Two income family on minimum wage earns $21,424. This exceeds the poverty level.

90% of the time people's income levels later in life depend on choices they made earlier in life.


95 posted on 05/15/2005 6:42:29 AM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: cgbg
The Republican model depends on blue collar workers gaining more resources and wealth

You are confusing the talk with the deeds. Keeping wages low does not help "blue collar workers gaining more resources and wealth". Wages (and yes, benefits) is all they get.

96 posted on 05/15/2005 6:46:24 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: Vinnie
The republicans and congress better be very careful.

They are secure as long as Democrats are kept on "gay" side.

97 posted on 05/15/2005 6:48:14 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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To: Sam the Sham
This article is right on the money.

Both parties are the captives of their upper middle class constituencies. As a consequence they are indifferent to the economic interests and moral values respectively of blue collar voters. Indifference breeds resentment. In the Minutemen movement, a movement of blue collar Americans who think their government has sold them out, we are seeing the first thunderclaps of that resentment.


I know myself, I feel a lot of that resentment. The reason why I vote Republican is because at least on moral and social issues, they are "better" than the alternative but there are times they do't follow through on what they say. I've seen it here where Trent Lott is put to the task of wimping out.

There is such a cryin need for a party that is nationalist economically and conservative on cultural values. Such a party could dominate American politics. And frankly, Nowhere Man, if Hillary could even pretend to be such a politician, she would win in a landslide and in the process rebuild the Democrats as the new majority party. That is what is at stake here.

That's what scares me, Hillary. I know better not to vote for her because of her background because she is a sneak, a snake in the grass. The average voter will not see that and if Hillary gets in, like a WWII era German commerce raider, the traps come off and she will open fire with her leftist agenda, then we will all be screwed. We need someone. Pat Buchanan, well I agree with him on most things, but I question his motives on being anti-Israel and the Iraq war, I'm afraid he is out to lunch on those. H. Ross Perot, well, he's getting up there and he has so much baggage from 1992 and 1996, I don't see him as a contender. Tom Tancredo, I support him, he seems to be my personal favorite but the Republican Establishment would doom him.
98 posted on 05/15/2005 6:59:28 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Nowhere Man

"traps come off" = "tarps come off"


99 posted on 05/15/2005 7:03:13 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: neverdem

The short of this seems to be, "poor voters continue to vote for candidates who serve the rich because of their own (bigoted) social conservativism".

The left tried beating this drum leading into the 2004 election. "If ONLY they would all support the Democrats..."


100 posted on 05/15/2005 7:38:04 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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