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Everything I learned about successful TV from 'Everybody Loves Raymond'
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | May 15, 2005 | Rob Owen

Posted on 05/16/2005 7:40:32 AM PDT by AmishDude

The success of CBS's "Everybody Loves Raymond" offers several lessons today's TV executives would do well to recognize:

It takes time to grow a hit.

When "Raymond" premiered in September 1996, the show aired at 8:30 p.m. Friday and had terrible ratings. Critics raved about it, but viewers didn't find it. CBS paid attention to the critical plaudits and moved "Raymond" to 8:30 p.m. Monday in 1997, where it grew into a hit.

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KEYWORDS: lessons; raymond; tv
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To: dmz

Re-read my first response 2 U.


141 posted on 05/16/2005 12:23:19 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: SONbrad

Well, at least my name ain't Sue.


142 posted on 05/16/2005 12:23:45 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: SONbrad

You pretty much summed up ELR in a nutshell. Frank and Robert have always been my favorite characters, although I'll never understand how Robert could have passed up that Italian hottie Stephania, for that shrew Amy.


143 posted on 05/16/2005 12:29:28 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Because Amy was a "good girl", remember? ;-)


144 posted on 05/16/2005 12:36:41 PM PDT by TheBigB ("So you're saying...there's a treasure map...on the back of...the Declaration of Independence?")
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Oh yea...Stephania! wow! You're right, what a hottie. The only bad thing about her was her father. (I think it was her father...the guy that bought the Pizzeria).

Of course, Amy's parents are a real piece of work too. So all things being equal...definitely Stephania! lol

I loved it when she called Robert a "bastardo"!


145 posted on 05/16/2005 12:38:40 PM PDT by SONbrad
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To: TheBigB

I'd rather have a bit of a bad little Italian hottie myself, but then, I'm a Reptile Republican... ;^)


146 posted on 05/16/2005 12:38:57 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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To: Chunga; stig
She's not supposed to be funny she's the straight man of the comedy act.

You're right, I mispoke. I should have said she's not likable.

I knew she was a conservative, and that makes her even more dislikable to me. She's just downright mean to Ray, something not in character with conservatism.

147 posted on 05/16/2005 12:41:11 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Things went easier for you in the military, didn't they? If you were the highest ranked in the room, you could always have the last word.

Good luck with that here.


148 posted on 05/16/2005 12:48:01 PM PDT by dmz
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To: bonfire; kassie; Neets; Utah Girl
Your mil is my mil?...;-)

Each character in the show I can relate to.

I'm a little like Debra, not really quite as b*itchy, but sort of have my head on straight, but with a greater sense of humor.

My fil was much like Frank...gruff on the exterior , but he was a real sweetheart once a relationship was developed.

My mil IS Marie....without the perks....cleaning...cooking...etc. She moved in with us almost 2 years ago. Trust me, we get Marie without any of the housework benefits.

Now, the only difference is my hubby is like Raymond in some respects, but as far as being favorite or the youngest it's not so.

Our lives are stressed to the max with me being primary caregiver to my mil and hubby commuting 5-6 hours to and from work a day.

It seems that the little recreation we get is watching Raymond.

For us.....It's an inexpensive therapy session. We relate with laughter.

One of my favorite episodes was when Marie taught Debra how to make her special meatballs. Debra couldn't duplicate them at home because of Marie's spice switcheroo.

Who's the nutcase now, Ray? :-)

149 posted on 05/16/2005 12:50:26 PM PDT by lysie
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To: SONbrad
Good breakdown of the characters.
150 posted on 05/16/2005 12:52:17 PM PDT by lysie
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To: lysie

Sad it has to end!!


151 posted on 05/16/2005 12:55:17 PM PDT by Neets
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To: R. Scott

Ah! So that's it.


152 posted on 05/16/2005 1:20:46 PM PDT by Banjoguy (Don't be brain dead.)
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To: AmishDude

I hate this show.

I hate this show with a deep abiding passion.

I have never watched a complete episode of this show, and if I could, I would have those fragments burnt from my brain.

My parents have never missed an episode of this show. After all the years of watching, they think it is not only appropriate, but amusing to come barging into my home through any door at any time without calling first or even knocking.

I hate Raymond.


153 posted on 05/16/2005 1:28:36 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TC Rider

Yes, that's right, blame your parent's borish behavior on a television show. Something tells me that you had problems before they started watching Raymond because the show makes it clear that this type of behavior is not acceptable.

I'm sorry, but blaming their actions on a TV show is almost liberal-like behavior. Talk about not taking responsibility for one's actions and blaming them on something else. You should really talk with them.

Seriously. That's not right. They shouldn't do that to you.


154 posted on 05/16/2005 1:31:20 PM PDT by SONbrad
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
PBS runs it now and then, but usually during pledge drives

That'll be my best shot unless I rent it--thanks for the suggestion. I also enjoyed some of Monty Python (the parrot), a little of Rowan Atkinson's "Mr Bean"(the Thanksgiving one with the turkey), but couldn't stand Benny Hill.

155 posted on 05/16/2005 1:39:20 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: R. Scott
Yep. Plus, I could relate to the characters on “Cheers” and “Frasier”.

True, but it's funny you'd be surprised the number of people that didn't like Frasier that much because they thought it was too sophisticated...had to think and listen closely to get the humor. Not me, I loved it!

156 posted on 05/16/2005 1:43:37 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: mupcat

I always got a kick out of Atkinson's other series, The Black Adder. So much so that I bought the entire collection on DVD.


157 posted on 05/16/2005 1:44:11 PM PDT by SONbrad
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To: mountn man

"Real Men" do NOT watch "Will and Grace", especially "Mountain Men". You can quote me on that.


158 posted on 05/16/2005 1:47:09 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: SONbrad
I always got a kick out of Atkinson's other series, The Black Adder

Whew, you know I'm ashamed to say I've never seen it. I do know it had a tremendous following. Must say I'm fairly sporadic when it comes to British humor also. Some I love and some I find a little too slapstickish for me.

159 posted on 05/16/2005 1:50:24 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: mupcat

If you enjoy Rowan Atkinson, I'd highly recommend the "Blackadder" series. An historic tour-de-farce of English history from the Middle Ages to WW1.


160 posted on 05/16/2005 1:50:32 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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