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Everything I learned about successful TV from 'Everybody Loves Raymond'
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | May 15, 2005 | Rob Owen

Posted on 05/16/2005 7:40:32 AM PDT by AmishDude

The success of CBS's "Everybody Loves Raymond" offers several lessons today's TV executives would do well to recognize:

It takes time to grow a hit.

When "Raymond" premiered in September 1996, the show aired at 8:30 p.m. Friday and had terrible ratings. Critics raved about it, but viewers didn't find it. CBS paid attention to the critical plaudits and moved "Raymond" to 8:30 p.m. Monday in 1997, where it grew into a hit.

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To: RetiredArmy

Good for you and I happen to agree.

However, don't you know that we aren't allowed to voice our opinions on here without being called a name or a snide comment being directed our way, even if one does not have the guts to say it to us directly? sarcasm off/

I think someone is stalking me....I hope the few don't start doing it to you also. But I can see that you are retired army, so I am sure you can handle them.

Have a great day! Thanks for your service.


61 posted on 05/16/2005 9:24:55 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: jeremiah
I like the show, but after watching a few episodes, they are just reruns of the same 'o' same 'o'.
Agreed. This show and its characters were as predictable week to week as any I've ever seen.
 
62 posted on 05/16/2005 9:29:00 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: CCCnative; All

LOL, good point. I hardly ever bother to tape anything anymore. I figure if it's that good, it will be repeated some time or another.

Someone else mentioned not giving new shows a chance to get going. I remember seeing an interview with Dick Van Dyke, and the same thing happened with his show in the early '60's. They decided to give him another shot, and the show took off. It's still one of my all time favorites, and reminds me a bit of Raymond. Every day situations taken to the nth degree, and they end up hysterically funny.


63 posted on 05/16/2005 9:29:36 AM PDT by baseballmom
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To: WV Mountain Mama

IMHO, women like this show better than men. I can't sit through an entire episode (after the few that I did see), as it is so predictable.

Ray will say or do something stupid. His mother will support him, and his wife won't. At the end, Ray comes to understand his errors. Along the way, Ray's brother will do something less odious than Ray, will be supported only by Ray's wife, and will lament the fact that "Everybody loves Ray".


64 posted on 05/16/2005 9:29:53 AM PDT by dmz
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To: macamadamia

The PMS episode was why I started watching "Raymond" at all.


65 posted on 05/16/2005 9:30:16 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Radioactive

I watch TV AND travel to Europe. So there. Ha.


66 posted on 05/16/2005 9:31:26 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Hold on a minute. OK. Now I am as impressed with you as you are.


67 posted on 05/16/2005 9:32:13 AM PDT by dmz
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To: kidd

Yeah the PMS episode was a good one. Now that I remember it, I have to add the episode where Raymond and Robert are waiting overnight in the car to play golf. The writing and acting were quite good.


68 posted on 05/16/2005 9:40:21 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: dmz

Bite me.


69 posted on 05/16/2005 9:40:31 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: AmishDude

The characters are all so mean to each other. It's hard to watch.


70 posted on 05/16/2005 9:40:39 AM PDT by cruiserman
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To: macamadamia

Or the one where Debra is in false labor in the car with Robert and Raymond! Love that one!


71 posted on 05/16/2005 9:41:36 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: macamadamia

One of my favorites was the "Raybert" episode where Robert becomes Raymond and starts to attract women. The look on Roberts face when he gets caught is hysterical. And then his line... "I'm here to fix sprinkler" in a russian accent before he makes a run for it! lol


72 posted on 05/16/2005 9:43:24 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: RetiredArmy

How clever. Especially from the man who says, and I quote "I didn't allow myself to drop to the government school educated level of 5th grade."

Except in your choice of insults. LOL.



73 posted on 05/16/2005 9:44:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Balding_Eagle
Raymond is funny, but his wife is a real *itch. Can't watch it 'cuz of her. She's just not funny.

She's not supposed to be funny she's the straight man of the comedy act.

74 posted on 05/16/2005 9:46:27 AM PDT by stig
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To: motzman
The same line was repeated on Raymond, as seen in a promo for the syndicated run just last week. I can't find a transcript, but how about these family-friendly "memorable quotes" chronicled by IMDB:

Ray Barone: Uhh. It smells like a skunk that came out of the ass of another skunk.

**************

Robert Barone: Three women, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Ray Barone: You do a dance, you gigantic, lucky bastard.

**************

Frank Barone: You don't know a monkey wrench from a monkey's ass.

**************

Marie Barone: Another sex game? Didn't you have enough with that other sex game you and Robert used to play all the time when you were kids?

**************

Marie Barone: Fine! You got it out of me. Your father and I... succumbed to temptation before we got married. I fell for your father's boyish good looks. But, it didn't matter. We were in love. Right, Frank?

Frank Barone: I wanted sex. **************

C'mon, kids! Let's pop some popcorn and gather 'round the T.V. for some wholesome fun!

75 posted on 05/16/2005 9:46:56 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Good for you and I happen to agree. However, don't you know that we aren't allowed to voice our opinions on here without being called a name or a snide comment being directed our way, even if one does not have the guts to say it to us directly? sarcasm off/ I think someone is stalking me....I hope the few don't start doing it to you also. But I can see that you are retired army, so I am sure you can handle them. Have a great day! Thanks for your service.

The service was my pleasure. As for the: However, don't you know that we aren't allowed to voice our opinions on here without being called a name or a snide comment being directed our way, even if one does not have the guts to say it to us directly?, yes, I know. In fact someone called DMZ made a smart assed remark a few after yours. But, basically, I don't care what these people here or anywhere else say about me. What they say does not affect me or my life. I am not out to impress anyone here on a posting site or even in person. I don't care what they think here or even in person. I live my life as best I can. I don't bother people, I don't put my hands on other people, and I expect the same in return. If they do, then I deal with it at the time. But, I don't sit around worrying if people like me or not. It is not one of my big worries of my day. I only work to please my wife and family, do my job, live my life as best I can. But, I won't be treated poorly in person either. And, these whine bags here who make their smart assed remarks talk the big talk, but very, very, very, very few of them have the gonads to come to your face and say it. Oh, they will rap it on the key board and ask where you wanna meet, but they would never show up even if you did. I don't waste my time with them. I am not out to impress them, and frankly don't care what their opinions are. I have mine. I live with mine. I live by mine. Not their opinions of me. Enjoy and have a good day.

76 posted on 05/16/2005 9:47:35 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: dmz

Laugh all you want to A-hole. Your opinion means about what Bill Clinton means to me, nothing. As in worthless.


77 posted on 05/16/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Search and Destroy socialist democrats & their leaders Fat Ted, F'n Kerry & the Beast!)
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To: bonfire

The false labor episode. Youch! I felt Robert's embarrassment there. Frankly if I were Robert after that incident I would have traveled abroad for a while.


78 posted on 05/16/2005 9:49:05 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: SONbrad

"Raybert" was hilarious. Brad Garrett (sp?) I think is a great actor. He portrayed Jackie Gleason a few years ago and made an otherwise standard TV bio-pic much, much better.


79 posted on 05/16/2005 9:55:47 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: macamadamia

Do you remember the epidose where Frank was chiding Robert and Raymond about being nice to Amy and Debra in an effort to get what they wanted? He told them something to effect that being nice was a loser's game.

Ray asked him 'how do you get what you want then?"

Frank's answer was "I've learned to live without!"

My wife and I just howled!


80 posted on 05/16/2005 10:01:42 AM PDT by SONbrad
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