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Puerto Rican Base Closures. Careful What You Ask For - VANITY
5-16-05 | NavyCanDo

Posted on 05/16/2005 11:36:57 AM PDT by NavyCanDo

Remember when Puerto Rico was raising hell about the US Navy using that nothing little island just off the coast of Puerto Rico for bombing practices which they had used for the past 75 years? Demonstrations were held, Hollywood left wingers, Al Sharpton, and his fellow demagogues went down there to demonstrate to get the Navy out? Were you infuriated? Wellllllllllllllll, here is the revenge. Always be careful what you ask for, you just might get it!

One of the many headaches that the U. S. has had was the Puerto Rican Island of Vieques. In the waning years of the Clinton Administration, Protesters demanded that the US Navy abandon bombing and naval gun fire exercises that had taken place on the largely uninhabited island for nearly 70 years. Liberal icons bumped into one another to fly to Puerto Rico, boat over to the island, trespass (but never on a day that there was an exercise scheduled) and get arrested for the benefit of the New York Times or Newsweek.

They included (but were not limited to):

Reverend Al Sharpton, Mrs. Jesse Jackson, Joan Baez, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Edward Olmos, Michael Moore Ramsey Clark, just to name a few.

In 2002, the bombing exercises were transferred to an Air Force bombing range in central Florida, not far from the Jacksonville and Pensacola Naval Air Stations.

In January, many of the protesters were back in Puerto Rico, celebrating the final bombing exercise on Vieques and waved Puerto Rican flags and placards that read: "U.S. Navy, get out of Puerto Rico."

The following Feb, Rumsfeld announced that the U.S. Navy will close the Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station in Puerto Rico in 2004, eliminating 1200 civilian jobs as well as 700 military positions. This naval facility is estimated to have put nearly $300 million annually into the local economy.

The next day a stunned Governor Sila Calderon, held a news conference in San Juan, protesting the base closure as a serious blow to the Commonwealth's fragile economy. The governor stated that "The people of Puerto Rico don't now or never did have an interest in closing the Vieques bombing range or the Roosevelt Roads naval base. We are interested in both staying in Puerto Rico."

When asked, the Commander-in Chief, Western Atlantic Command, said, "Without Vieques, I see no further need for the facility at Roosevelt Roads. None."

So, Yanqui go home? Fine. But we'll take our dollars with us. Hasta la vista, baby!

Related story on the Puerto Rico Herald http://www.puertorico-herald.org/issues2/2005/vol09n19/CBDefenseFed.shtml


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: baseclosure; brac; cary; military; puertorico; rico; taxes; vieques
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Careful what you ask for.
1 posted on 05/16/2005 11:36:58 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
“Puerto Rico,
My heart’s devotion,
Let it sink back in the ocean!”

2 posted on 05/16/2005 11:40:33 AM PDT by dighton
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To: NavyCanDo

Yummy! Hooray for Rummy!


3 posted on 05/16/2005 11:41:26 AM PDT by ikka
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To: NavyCanDo

WAHWAHWAH! YOU TOOK US SERIOUSLY!!! WAH!

how dare we give them what they ask for!


4 posted on 05/16/2005 11:41:59 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: NavyCanDo
Hillary was the biggie in all this. The Mayor of the area was female and Hillary got her claws out to make this happen.

Now Hillary is up in NY fighting talking the talk to keep a couple of our NY bases around. Tell Hillary that there is a strategy to locations of bases. Frankly, I don't want the bases in areas that are target areas and Niagara is one of them.

5 posted on 05/16/2005 11:42:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: dighton
and it's 4,000,000 AMERICAN Citizens????

(here we go with another slam the Ricans thread....)

6 posted on 05/16/2005 11:43:43 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: NavyCanDo

"Viva Puerto Rico libre!"


7 posted on 05/16/2005 11:44:22 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: NavyCanDo
Hehehhehehe...Ft.Bliss is doing the jig all the way to the bank!! Ft. Bliss is based in El Paso, Texas and as far as I know the town is buzzing with excitement over the 12,000 transfered military families coming over here!! Our town paper are all giddy and so am I. Schools are making room for the kids, roads are being repaired in the surrounding area in Ft. Bliss and the housing market is ready to accommodate those families. The town is going HAPPY CRAZY!! GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY!! :)
8 posted on 05/16/2005 11:46:00 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: NavyCanDo

Reverend Al Sharpton, Mrs. Jesse Jackson, Joan Baez, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Edward Olmos, Michael Moore Ramsey Clark, just to name a few.

The Gov of Pureto Rico should contact these people and request they contribute to the aide for displaced workers!


9 posted on 05/16/2005 11:46:16 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: NavyCanDo

Why the hell are they even part of us? We don't need these federal funds vampires who don't pay a penny back to the system. Either become a state or get out and be dirt poor like the rest.


10 posted on 05/16/2005 11:47:31 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Reverend Al Sharpton, Mrs. Jesse Jackson, Joan Baez, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Edward Olmos, Michael Moore Ramsey Clark

The Governor of Puerto Rico owes these folks a debt of gratitude for closing down the killing fields of Vieques...
11 posted on 05/16/2005 11:50:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: CGVet58

Not to slam "Ricans", but remind me--just what do we get from those 4,000,000 AMERICANS? I was under the impression that what we got were just bills to pay for their subsistance.


12 posted on 05/16/2005 11:50:49 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: CGVet58
Just quoting a song from West Side Story, a favorite of mine and (IIRC) the pingee.

No slam intended at Puerto Ricans in general. However, those who drove the Navy from Vieques can cry on someone else's shoulder about the economic hit.

13 posted on 05/16/2005 11:50:55 AM PDT by dighton
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To: NavyCanDo

Reverend Al Sharpton, Mrs. Jesse Jackson, Joan Baez, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Edward Olmos, Michael Moore Ramsey Clark, just to name a few...


How could you forget Cong. Luiz Guittierez d-Chicago? His district has a large PR populace.


14 posted on 05/16/2005 11:51:14 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: NavyCanDo

It was mostly the mainland and island left that was campaigning to close Vieques. For the people living on Vieques, the navy facility was their primary source of employment, obviously they didn't want it closed. But since when does a leftist from New York care what a Puerto Rican from Vieques thinks?

Sila Calderon was trying to have her cake and eat it. She came out against the navy on Vieques as a way of pandering to her left, not believing that the navy would actually close it. I think she was shocked when they agreed to stop training there, and she was especially shocked when they decided to close Roosevelt Roads as a result.

Its a shame, the people didn't deserve this, but their political leadership and the media both pandered to the left and the damage is done. And, to be clear, Rumsfeld is looking for bases to close, so why not this one?

I personally think its a mistake to be closing down so many bases, because once they are closed, you can't get them back should the situation change. But this is the political reality, and when they are in a base-closure mode, don't agitate for a base to close unless you are serious.


15 posted on 05/16/2005 11:51:41 AM PDT by marron
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To: cll

FYI, amigo.


16 posted on 05/16/2005 11:54:26 AM PDT by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: NavyCanDo

Isn't it getting to be about time to round these Anti-Americans up? Investigate there connections with Organizations that may want to overthrow the US Government and undermine the US Constitution??


17 posted on 05/16/2005 11:55:43 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: NavyCanDo
Last night my brother recounted a spat between two fellow employees, a Dominican and Puerto Rican, over whose people was the more backward, corrupt, and stupid. The Dominican mentioned the folly of the agitation over Vieques and the loss of jobs due to the inevitable base closing, but the Puerto Rican got in the last and best lick by saying: "At least we have our own island. You have to share yours with the damn Haitians!"
18 posted on 05/16/2005 11:56:08 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: NavyCanDo

Too funny....without US Military $$$'s...looks like island will suffer...US $$$'s prove once again to be the really important bottom line factor here...ask germany 'bout it...


19 posted on 05/16/2005 11:56:38 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: NavyCanDo

This is old news.

But you're right: The Clintons et al pandering to a small, fringe minority.

When Bush was elected we expected him to roll back the Vieques fiasco, but being as honorable and naive that he sometimes can be, he followed up on Clintons' policies on this one.

However, Rosey is far from gone. The Navy might have packed out of there, but othe military services and federal agencies have first dibs on the facilities and they're quietly moving in.


20 posted on 05/16/2005 11:56:43 AM PDT by cll
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