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Zero Stars For Star Wars VI (Spoiler Alert)
cbsnews.com ^ | May 16, 2005 | John Podhoretz.

Posted on 05/16/2005 1:18:49 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Destro
But the Darth Vader we see at the end of Revenge of the Sith hasn't been seduced. He's been tricked. He's not a villain. He's a schmuck.

The problem is that Vader never was a superior villain. He never tried to vanquish The Emperor (or this President guy John talks about) so he could be the undisputed heavyweight bad guy champion of the world, so to speak. That's what makes a great villain. He has to be fearless-- just like a great hero. It's all about sides of the mirror-- the same, but opposite.

21 posted on 05/16/2005 1:32:15 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Destro

Like the movie Podhertz did not...


22 posted on 05/16/2005 1:32:25 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Destro

CBS news strikes again, rottentomatoes has it getting a quite nice rating.


23 posted on 05/16/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT by LAURENTIJ
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To: Yo-Yo

Makes look bad it does.


24 posted on 05/16/2005 1:32:53 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrat = Fat, drunk and stupid is a hell of a way to go through life)
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To: RobFromGa
Still go see it I must.

A fool and his money, soon parted they are

</joke>

25 posted on 05/16/2005 1:33:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Controlled substance laws created the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Destro
I think Lucas could have done soooo much more with these three films if he had said screw the kids, and appealed to the millions of existing Star Wars fans. Too much G and PG material for a story that honestly should have been rated PG-13 to R.

The transformation of Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader is supposed to be truly dark and probably far deeper and violent. I'll go see it, buy the video or DVD and watch it a few times along with the other 5. I'll be disappointed, but oh well it's the missing piece to the ultimate epic film.

26 posted on 05/16/2005 1:33:31 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Destro
>But the Darth Vader we see at the end of Revenge of the Sith hasn't been seduced. He's been tricked. He's not a villain. He's a schmuck

Just damn. I had hoped
the Jedi's constant mistakes
were a subtle plan

to mis-lead the Sith
and set up the victory
of Vader's son . . . But

I guess Jedi just
are incompetent losers
and the Sith should rule!

27 posted on 05/16/2005 1:34:25 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: The Iguana

Naaah... Half of the reviews at rotten tomatoes were publixhed before anyone had seen the movie... and all but one of those were raves. Since then, only nine out of eighteen have been "fresh," and they don't seem so fresh. Among the "positive" reviews:

"Oh my, it's not nearly as good as you may have heard," -- John Venable

"Without a doubt the best of the three most recent films. That's not exactly high praise." -- Boston Herald

""The more casual fan may be left feeling like Revenge of the Sith scores a technical knockout rather than the real thing." -- Brent Simon

"John Williams' music is what sets this apart from other mundane films that survive on special effects." -- Tony Medley

"It’s still a tossup with Ewok Adventure," -- Fred Topel

"For every thrilling space battle or lightsaber dual you get, you get two scenes with embarrassingly bad dialogue and line delivery." -- Stefan Halley

"Revenge of the Sith was the film that should have salvaged the prequels. It doesn’t." -- Devin Faraci

And yes, those are the POSITIVE reviews.


28 posted on 05/16/2005 1:34:32 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Sola Veritas

have you notice how much of a schmuck vader is in all the commercial endorsements? fast food, mini marts,

Vader has gone from evil incarnate to Joe Izusu with asma.


29 posted on 05/16/2005 1:34:34 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Makes me look bad it does.


30 posted on 05/16/2005 1:34:54 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrat = Fat, drunk and stupid is a hell of a way to go through life)
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To: Yo-Yo

Makes me look bad it does.


31 posted on 05/16/2005 1:34:54 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrat = Fat, drunk and stupid is a hell of a way to go through life)
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To: xusafflyer

Ping you, I must.


32 posted on 05/16/2005 1:35:07 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Destro

A review of star wars critiquing poor dialogue by lucas? Shocked. Shocked and awed I am </sarcasm>. Everybody knows Lucas can't write his way out of a paper sack. Judging this movie by this review alone is a bad move, I think.

2 days and 7 hours till it opens, for me, anyway. I picked up tickets to my local theatres midnight showing.


33 posted on 05/16/2005 1:35:16 PM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: Destro

Lucas hires million dollar CG experts - why can't he hire a decent ghostwriter?


34 posted on 05/16/2005 1:36:03 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Destro

Return of the Jedi had some serious plot problems, but was enjoyable and one could watch it without projectile vomiting.

I still haven't recovered from the whole "The Force" is a bacterial infection that leads to virgin births thing.

As I recall, Lucas was sued by his ex for claims that she was the real creative force behind Star Wars. I think she needs to reopen that lawsuit...


35 posted on 05/16/2005 1:36:17 PM PDT by Ragnorak
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To: infidel29
Only one thing could have saved this movie: More ... and I mean much more ... Jar Jar Binks
36 posted on 05/16/2005 1:37:35 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: kromike
But that's the trend these days in movie-making. Villains aren't blatantly, flat-out evil, they're just "confused" and "misunderstood".

That's part of it, but like I posted above, Vader never really was the superior villain he had the potential to be. Satan tried to overthrow God, because he was fearless (stupidly fearless, but fearless nonetheless). A great villain always wants to be the baddest bad guy on the block. Vader was always content to be second banana. He was redeemed (and redeemable) in Return of the Jedi because he never really committed himself to being the best villain he could be. He could have been a contender, but he was just a chump.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1404326/posts?page=21#21

37 posted on 05/16/2005 1:37:43 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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Over/under on number of Yoda-speak posts is 18.


38 posted on 05/16/2005 1:37:48 PM PDT by TheBigB ("So you're saying...there's a treasure map...on the back of...the Declaration of Independence?")
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To: Yo-Yo

Backward ran sentences until reeled the mind.


39 posted on 05/16/2005 1:38:16 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Destro

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_3/ says 83% approval rating.


40 posted on 05/16/2005 1:38:55 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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