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Md. cardinal to boycott Giuliani speech (Life issue)
AP ^ | 5-18-05

Posted on 05/18/2005 9:33:07 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Md. cardinal to boycott Giuliani speech
5/18/2005, 11:11 p.m. ET
The Associated Press

BALTIMORE (AP) — Cardinal William Keeler will not attend a Jesuit university commencement because keynote speaker Rudolph Giuliani, a Catholic, supports abortion rights, an official said Wednesday.

Giuliani, the Republican former New York City mayor mentioned as a possible candidate for president in 2008, is expected to award some 1,600 degrees and certificates at Friday's commencement at Loyola College of Maryland.

He also is to receive an honorary degree.

Friday's graduating class entered the school one week before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, said Loyola spokesman Mark Kelly.

"The attacks had a huge effect on this class, many of whom are from New York," Kelly said late Wednesday. "The college selected Mayor Giuliani because of his courage and leadership after the attacks."

Kelly added Loyola does not agree with every position held by every speaker.

Keeler could not be reached for comment Wednesday night. His spokesman did not elaborate on the decision, but confirmed it was because of Giuliani's abortion stance.

The Cardinal Newman Society is planning protests, the group said in a statement.

The society is protesting speakers and honorees at 18 Catholic college and universities, saying the invitations violate the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops statement last year asserting "Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles."

Earlier this week, New York Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, also a Catholic, canceled his speech to graduates of St. Elizabeth's College of Nursing after learning a bishop opposed his appearance. Boehlert said he did not want to draw attention from the graduation ceremony.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani did not immediately return phone calls.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; cary; catholicschools; commencement; guliani; keeler; life; rudy
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To: Torie
Boycotting respected speakers because of their views on abortion laws who will not be speaking about abortion seems excessive. I think that approach will backfire.

The Cardinal is not concerned with having it backfire. He is not a politician seeking votes who will do or say anything to any and all constituencies to make himself more appealing.

The Cardinal is being true to his faith and his beliefs.

It is called taking a stand for what he believes and what is right. To do otherwise, marks him as equally guilty of the sin of taking innocent lives.

161 posted on 05/19/2005 8:29:15 AM PDT by N. Theknow (BXVI - The cafeteria is closed.)
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To: IRememberElian
Hooray!

Dittos.

Can anyone tell me why Guiliani is regarded as a hero? What exactly did he do in the aftermath of 9/11 that was so exceptional?

162 posted on 05/19/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: rkhampton
He served as a good leader, held the city together and helped it rebuild

Anything more specific than that?

163 posted on 05/19/2005 8:57:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: staytrue
Before he was mayor, NYC was very unsafe and close to bankruptcy. After he left, NYC was clean and very safe. I think murders dropped from 1600 per year to about 400.

That's true. But a lot of the credit should go to James Q. Wilson and his "broken window theory" that Guiliani adopted.

After 9-11, he was clear and resolute that NYC would not only survive, but thrive and he has been right.

That's good, but not exactly heroic.

164 posted on 05/19/2005 9:01:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: All; Dan from Michigan

Good for the cardinal, but why are the Jesuits having Guiliani speak in the first place.

While I'm here let me say that Father Pavone said that the Constitution option is the most important vote. This is our best hope to end abortion.

Drudge had a guest on his show Sunday night, who said the Constitutional option vote is going to be close. Just a couple of senators could make the difference.

Even if none of these WAVERING senators is your own senator,
please call 'em, anyway.

The last I heard the six key GOP Senators are Collins (ME), DeWine (OH), Hagel (NE), Murkowski, Specter (PA), and Warner (VA). Frist can afford to lose only two, because McCain, Chafee, and Snowe have declined to end the judicial filibusters.

We can call toll-free at 877-762-8762 .


Fax or e-mail info can be found here (but phone calls are more effective):
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm

Urge each to FULLY SUPPORT THE FILIBUSTERING
RULES CHANGE.

It might not hurt to tell them about this poll, either:

Should Senate Rules Be Changed?

Yes 57%
No 25%
RasmussenReports.com

Very simple, very straightforward. That's why Rasmussen has such a good track record. They are honest.


Senator John Warner is rather difficult to reach by phone, so here's the link to send him your message. Just click & fill out the form and give him your brief message:

http://warner.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm


165 posted on 05/19/2005 9:04:15 AM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: BlackElk; TattooedUSAFConservative; Calpernia; Conservative til I die; MacArthur
.......cross-dressing at a gay fundraiser .....

One sure way to sink your presidential candidacy.

166 posted on 05/19/2005 9:31:57 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Liz

WHAT on earth????

Please tell me this was Halloween.


167 posted on 05/19/2005 9:35:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Rudy was dressed appropriately ----- for attending a gay fund-raiser.


168 posted on 05/19/2005 9:39:13 AM PDT by Liz (A society of sheep must, in time, beget a government of wolves. Bertrand de Jouvenal)
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To: Liz

I still don't find that appropriate...for some reason.


169 posted on 05/19/2005 9:48:04 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Aquinasfan

Besides what's been said, he was there all day, every day comforting and encouraging -- he went to hundreds (at least) of wakes and funerals (I recall a lot of criticism of Hillary, who went to 0). He gave away a bride (a stranger) whose father had been killed. From what I read, it sounded as if he never slept in the weeks immediately following.


170 posted on 05/19/2005 10:22:31 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Aquinasfan
But a lot of the credit should go to James Q. Wilson and his "broken window theory" that Guiliani adopted.

What an utterly bizarre way to look at it! LOL!

171 posted on 05/19/2005 10:24:43 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Finalapproach29er
Giuliani was a great crime fighter. He also had the moxie to return a check to some rich guy that said that we brought 9/11 on ourselves.

I don't think that a pro-abortionist or pro-homosexual makes a good leader. Perhaps he should make it his mission to go after political criminals.
172 posted on 05/19/2005 10:31:24 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: SaltyJoe
There is no reason for conservatives to change their position on social issues just to accomodate a savvy mayor from New Yawk in search of a new gig.

More important than an Oval Office chair for Rudy...he needs to get right with his faith. Although the pro-choice silliness helped him in New Yawk, it actually HURTS him in a presidential race. Something for the GOP boys in Central Control down in DC to think about...LONG and HARD.

As a pro-choice opportunist, he has no business handing out diplomas at a CATHOLIC college or receiving a degree from a place named after SAINT Ignatius Loyola. If the graduating students from that college didn't understand that, they got ripped off during those four years. And their professors denied them something that will be very hard to find during the rest of their lives.

Keeler & Co. need to reflect on what passes itself off as "Catholic" higher education within their jurisdiction. They need to look at the grave disorders that explain the disappearance of Catholic education in their midst.

173 posted on 05/19/2005 10:53:55 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Alberta's Child; NYer
Keeler could not be reached for comment Wednesday night. His spokesman did not elaborate on the decision, but confirmed it was because of Giuliani's abortion stance.

I'm sure Rudy's speech isn't about abortion. If Cardinal Keeler doesn't want to attend because of Rudy's views on this matter is one thing; however, Rudy was selected by the college because of his courage and leadership.

We don't entirely agree with every speaker's point of views, and it's not necessary either.

174 posted on 05/19/2005 11:38:03 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: maryz
No joke. Guiliani didn't come up with the idea, but at least he had the sense to implement it.

BROKEN WINDOWS
How a theory shook the foundations of law enforcement and helped heal a city

by LORI MONTGOMERY

In the 13th Precinct station house in midtown Manhattan, the walls are covered with maps. There's a map for robbery, a map for murder, maps for every kind of crime. The maps are dotted with pushpins, one for each criminal incident, updated daily, hot off the streets.

In January, these maps steered the 13th Precinct to a man who was following women home and robbing them with a butcher's cleaver. They helped snag a ring of auto thieves stealing cars outside a movie theater while their victims caught a show. But around New York City police headquarters, the 13th Precinct's most famous catch is Milton Cox.

Cox is accused of pulling more than 70 robberies in barely two months late last summer, allegedly following people into elevators and robbing them with a knife. His prolific career created a trail of pushpins across a map in the 13th Precinct station house, a trail that eventually showed the cops "more or less where he was going to be,'' said precinct commander Michael Darby. So Darby dispatched a cadre of plainclothes officers to find Cox. Sure enough, he walked right past a pair of them one day last October. They followed him into the lobby of 31 East 28th Street and watched him board an elevator with just one lonely rider. The cops grabbed Cox when he came back down, before his final victim could even dial 911. "You could see the life drain out of his face," said arresting officer Michael O'Shea. "He knew he was nabbed."

Three years ago, New York City police might never have spotted the robbery pattern that led to Cox's arrest. They didn't have maps. They didn't have daily crime tracking. They didn't have top executives breathing down their necks, checking precinct crime stats every week. They didn't have Comstat. But since 1994, when former Police Commissioner William Bratton engineered a transformation that refocused the full attention of the NYPD on combating petty street crime, the results have been astonishing.

Citywide, crime is down dramatically in all 76 precincts, to levels not seen since the early 1970s. From 1993 through 1995, murder dropped 39 percent and burglary went down by a quarter. Last year, 36 percent fewer cars were stolen, 31 percent fewer people were robbed, and 400 fewer people wound up on slabs at the city morgue. While the number of major crimes dropped sharply last year across big-city America, New York has been the leader, with a crime rate that seems to be falling faster than any demographic trend or sociological theory can explain. Crime in New York was down 15 percent last year, compared with a national drop of just two percent. Among the nation's 25 largest cities, New York's crime rate ranked 23rd behind San Diego and San Jose. These days, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani proudly proclaimed, New York is "just about the safest large city in America."

It's an astonishing turn of events. Police officials from Australia to Zimbabwe have journeyed to the Big Apple to observe this strange phenomenon. Even the U.S. Justice Department has commissioned a study to figure out what's going on.

What's the NYPD's secret? At One Police Plaza, the New York Police Department's monolithic headquarters wedged between Wall Street and Chinatown in downtown Manhattan, top commanders say it's very, very simple: small crimes must be taken as seriously as big crimes.

You've got an open 40-ouncer? There's a law against drinking in public, and you're outta here. Urinating in the alley, panhandling on the sidewalk, jumping turnstiles in the subway? The old NYPD let it slide. But the new NYPD will nab you, demand to see your ID, run a warrant check, probably run you into the station for a debriefing, and-if anything turns up-you might end up in jail.

This new approach is a well-planned combination of very basic policing tools and tactics coupled with a few high-tech flourishes, like state-of-the-art crime-mapping software and twice-weekly Comstat-short for computer statistics-strategy sessions where the department's top command focuses on the crime patterns in a handful of precincts. The NYPD claims to have woven these basic ideas, along with "quality of life" patrols, into a potentially seamless dragnet.

As New York cops get more efficient and more relentless, former Deputy Commissioner Jack Maple-who was the NYPD's crime-control guru until April-predicted with perfect confidence that crime in the city eventually will come down another 20 percent. All because of good police work.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The strategy being implemented in New York is based on an idea called the "Broken Windows Theory." First expressed by political scientist James Q. Wilson and criminologist George Kelling in an article for The Atlantic Monthly in 1982, the theory holds that if someone breaks a window in a building and it is not quickly repaired, others will be emboldened to break more windows. Eventually, the broken windows create a sense of disorder that attracts criminals, who thrive in conditions of public apathy and neglect.

The theory was based on an experiment conducted 26 years ago by Stanford University psychologist Philip Zimbardo. He took two identical cars, placing one on a street in a middle-class Palo Alto neighborhood and the other in a tougher neighborhood in the Bronx. The car in the Bronx, which had no license plate on it and was parked with its hood up, was stripped within a day. The car in Palo Alto sat untouched for a week, until Zimbardo smashed one of its windows with a sledgehammer. Within a few hours, it was stripped.

According to Wilson, a professor of public policy at UCLA, "There are two sources of disorder: offenders and physical disorder. [Both] lead people to believe the neighborhood is run down. The central problem for police is to take the small signs of disorder seriously and deal with them. That could be dealing with small-time offenders, or dealing with physical disorder, or some combination of both."


175 posted on 05/19/2005 11:39:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: maryz
Besides what's been said, he was there all day, every day comforting and encouraging -- he went to hundreds (at least) of wakes and funerals (I recall a lot of criticism of Hillary, who went to 0). He gave away a bride (a stranger) whose father had been killed. From what I read, it sounded as if he never slept in the weeks immediately following.

That's all good. But I can't say that I'm impressed at all by him, particularly in consideration of his behavior in his personal life and in his position regarding abortion and homosexual marriage, et. al. NY city is the abortion capital of America. Get back to me when he addresses the holocaust in his backyard.

176 posted on 05/19/2005 11:45:36 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
No joke. Guiliani didn't come up with the idea, but at least he had the sense to implement it.

I never questioned whose "idea" it was. I just think it takes a lot of work and political skill and determination to carry out the idea on the scale Giuliani did. And Wilson may have been the first to publish the idea, but lots of neighborhoods (and homes) have operated on the principle for years before that -- it's not exactly counterintuitive.

177 posted on 05/19/2005 11:54:36 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Finalapproach29er
While I don't understand how anyone who is Catholic can support abortion, the former mayor was reassuring, unafraid and acted like a true leader during the aftermath of 9/11. Too bad he's a social liberal, otherwise he would be a good contender (I'm from NY).
178 posted on 05/19/2005 1:17:48 PM PDT by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
What did he actually do that day that makes people take him seriously as a Presidential candidate? I don't get it.

He LEAD a city out of Chaos I think he is a great leader, knows how to organize people, knows how to get difficult things done-but I wouldn't vote for him for President because he isn't pro-life.

179 posted on 05/19/2005 1:25:23 PM PDT by okokie (Terri Schivo Martyr for the Gospel of Life)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
We don't entirely agree with every speaker's point of views, and it's not necessary either.

So if he was a neo-Nazi or Klansman, but wasn't going to talk about it, the cardinal should attend?

180 posted on 05/19/2005 1:41:56 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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