Posted on 05/21/2005 2:42:09 PM PDT by Pharmboy
During level flight, at the first indication of a stall, the pitch attitude and AOA must be decreased positively and IMMEDIATELY. The basic cause of a level flight stall is always an excessive angle of attack, the cause must eliminated by releasing the back elevator pressure, or by moving the elevator control forward.
During climb, the maximum allowable power should be applied to increase the airplane's speed and assist in reducing the wing's angle of attack. Generally, the throttle should be promptly, but smoothly, advanced to the maximum allowable position. The throttle movement should be coordinated and concurrent with releasing either back elevator pressure, or moving the elevator control forward.
Stalls during decent require restablishment of control to level flight through coordinated use of all flight controls.
Stalls during banking require use of the rudder. To the left, relax the rudder, to the right, add rudder and opposite aileron. If one goes further than 10 deg. one starts looking at the cross-control stall correction. Add some power and get into a 30 deg. bank. Suddenly the stall spin possibilities are increased. Proper rudder application during a banking stall is proven when the stall break is straight ahead without any wing drop. Application of aileron during such stall is counterproductive in that it furthers wing stall and causes it to drop.
Wonder if he thought he was going to land in the ocean and tried to bring it up short on the beach.
Some people still believe in God. You give gratitude to God.
At least we've gone through 40+ posts without anyone suggesting it was terrorism, so I guess we have returned to normal.
Old Tin Ear Bloomberg at it again.
It's hard to autorotate when your rotors have come to a screeching halt instead of rotating freely. It's also hard to autorotate when the contrarotating rotors *aren't*. Both are problems with the CH-46 and reasons why the bird kills so many Marines.
The acronym "PARE" keeps it in quick access in my brain. I have had some spin training years ago. The key is to have the "spider-sense" tingling before it even happens and avoid it all together. Have an out, err on the side of caution everytime. Give yourself a buffer and stack the cards on your side.
Power
Aileron
Rudder
Elevator
http://www.richstowell.com/erau.htm
1. Power--Off.
2. Ailerons--Neutralize (& Flaps "up").
3. Rudder--Apply fully opposite to the direction of yaw.
4. Elevator--Push through neutral.
Hold These Inputs Until Rotation Stops, Then:
5. Rudder--Neutralize.
6. Elevator--Easy pull to straight and level.
Yes, very sad, but it would have been horrible on Memorial Day or July Fourth.
thats what happened,, he was going too slowly with not enough altitude,, didn't want to belly land in the ocean and dipped his wing towards the beach and that put the plane into a no recover spin,, alll the way around an idiot pilot killed 3 other people in the safest airplane flying,,,,,,,,
okay pickyparser. "relieved"
Too small a target, dontcha think?
Had he belly landed in the water, would he have been OK? Assuming all could get out and begin to swim to shore before the craft sank -- or would the craft float long enough for a rescue boat to get there?
the stall horn had to be going off and in that case you don't drop your wing at that low altitude,, I believe the rule is no minimum altitude over water,, all seats are floatation devices,, you have a much better chance softlanding in the water than nosediving on land,, sounds to me like he panicked more than once
The victims are two high school students and one of their fathers from a small catholic school here in Wheeling, WV. The mom was on the beach and saw it happen.
How awful...so sorry for the family. That poor mom will not recover soon--if ever. I hope she has a great extended family and giving friends.
Looking at the thing in the picture I'd wonder how to get out once downed in the water. Looks to me like it would lay in the water to the bottom of the windows, and if doors opened (if possible against water pressure) would sink to lay upon the wings. Bust the windows out with an axe? Still beats smashing into the sand I guess.
Wheeling is a great city and I know that the support will be overwhelming for these two families. I am so sorry for the students at Bishop Donahue too. Graduation will be horrible.
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