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Creation Museum Sparks Evolution Debate
RedNova ^ | 22 May 2005 | Staff

Posted on 05/23/2005 3:29:06 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Ken Ham has spent 11 years working on a museum that poses the big question - when and how did life begin? Ham hopes to soon offer an answer to that question in his still-unfinished Creation Museum in northern Kentucky.

The $25 million monument to creationism offers Ham's view that God created the world in six, 24-hour days on a planet just 6,000 years old. The largest museum of its kind in the world, it hopes to draw 600,000 people from the Midwest and beyond in its first year.

Ham, 53, isn't bothered that his literal interpretation of the Bible runs counter to accepted scientific theory, which says Earth and its life forms evolved over billions of years.

Ham said the museum is a way of reaching more people along with the Answers in Genesis Web site, which claims to get 10 million page views per month and his "Answers ... with Ken Ham" radio show, carried by more than 725 stations worldwide.

"People will get saved here," Ham said of the museum. "It's going to fire people up. If nothing else, it's going to get them to question their own position of what they believe."

Ham is ready for a fight over his beliefs - based on a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament.

"It's a foundational battle," said Ham, a native of Australia who still speaks with an accent. "You've got to get people believing the right history - and believing that you can trust the Bible."

Among Ham's beliefs are that the Earth is about 6,000 years old, a figure arrived at by tracing the biblical genealogies, and not 4.5 billion years, as mainstream scientists say; the Grand Canyon was formed not by erosion over millions of years, but by floodwaters in a matter of days or weeks and that dinosaurs and man once coexisted, and dozens of the creatures - including Tyrannosaurus Rex - were passengers on the ark built by Noah, who was a real man, not a myth.

Although the Creation Museum's full opening is still two years away, already a buzz is building.

"When that museum is finished, it's going to be Cincinnati's No. 1 tourist attraction," says the Rev. Jerry Falwell, nationally known Baptist evangelist and chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. "It's going to be a mini-Disney World."

Respected groups such as the National Science Board, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Science Teachers Association strongly support the theory of evolution. John Marburger, the Bush administration's science adviser, has said, "Evolution is a cornerstone of modern biology."

Many mainstream scientists worry that creationist theology masquerading as science will have an adverse effect on the public's science literacy.

"It's a giant step backward in science education," says Carolyn Chambers, chair of the biology department at Xavier University, which is operated by the Jesuit order of the Catholic church.

Glenn Storrs, curator of vertebrate paleontology for the Cincinnati Museum Center, leads dinosaur excavations in Montana each summer. He said the theory of dinosaurs and man coexisting is a "non-issue."

"And so, I believe, is the age of the Earth," Storrs said. "It's very clear the Earth is much older than 6,000 years."

The Rev. Mendle Adams, pastor of St. Peter's United Church of Christ in Pleasant Ridge, takes issue with Ham's views - and the man himself.

"He takes extraordinary liberties with Scripture and theology to prove his point," Adams said. "The bottom line is, he is anti-gay, and he uses that card all the time."

Ham says homosexual behavior is a sin. But he adds that he's careful to condemn the behavior, not the person.

Even detractors concede that Ham has appeal.

Ian Plimer, chair of geology at the University of Melbourne, became aware of Ham in the late 1980s, when Ham's creationist ministry in Australia was just a few years old.

"He is promoting the religion and science of 350 years ago," says Plimer. "He's a far better communicator than most mainstream scientists."

Despite his communication skills, Ham admits he doesn't always make a good first impression. But, that doesn't stop him from trying to spread his beliefs.

"He'd be speaking 20 hours a day if his body would let him," said Mike Zovath, vice president of museum operations.

Ham's wife of 32 years agrees. "He finds it difficult talking about things apart from the ministry," Mally Ham says. "He doesn't shut off."

Ham said he has no choice but to speak out about what he believes.

"The Lord gave me a fire in my bones," Ham says. "The Lord has put this burden in my heart: 'You've got to get this information out.'"


This seems to be based on an article in the The Cincinnati Enquirer:
Ministry uses dinosaurs to dispute evolution . From there I got these pics:


Ken Ham poses with dinosaur models in his unfinished $25 million Answers in Genesis museum.


The 95,000-square-foot complex of Answers in Genesis is being built on 50 acres in Boone County. The Creation Museum covers 50,000 square feet.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; kenham; museum
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To: DannyTN
"And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you, they shall be male and female" Genesis 6:19

Seems to me that would include T-Rex, Brontosaurus, every other dinosaur.

41 posted on 05/23/2005 6:14:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: PatrickHenry
"The bottom line is, he is anti-gay, and he uses that card all the time."

Not exactly a firm argument in favor of the philosophy of evolution.

42 posted on 05/23/2005 6:18:18 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: From many - one.
Apparently, Mr. Ham makes his money from speaking engagements, books, videos, and radio..

You can read about him here

43 posted on 05/23/2005 6:19:28 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: From many - one.
And I'll sit and wonder where that $25 million came from. Anyone know?

Link the First

Link the Second

Link the Third

Link the Fourth

44 posted on 05/23/2005 6:20:47 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: nmh
Terminally dumbed down and proud of it.

Thank you!

Perfect description of the 11th-century mindset of those who insist on clinging to the "seven rotations of this insignificant ball of mud -- 6000 years" misinterpretation of Genesis I.

45 posted on 05/23/2005 6:21:26 AM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
...they shall be male and female...

A single earthworm is male and female, but she wouldn't suffice, of course.

46 posted on 05/23/2005 6:24:28 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry

"See, their eyes would be yellow because of all the beta carotene these obvious vegetarians were getting from the carrots they ate!"
47 posted on 05/23/2005 6:30:03 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Drammach; PatrickHenry

The evolutionist case for evolution of Ham Sandwiches


48 posted on 05/23/2005 6:31:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"And I'll sit and wonder where that $25 million came from. Anyone know?"

I bet it wasn't taxpayer funded government grants like the evolutionists get.

49 posted on 05/23/2005 6:36:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: nmh
Please describe how your "six 'yom' -- 6000 years ago" viewpoint explains this:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020901.html

Obviously, you can't-- you insist on using the wrong interpretation of 'yom'...

50 posted on 05/23/2005 6:41:16 AM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: nmh; PatrickHenry
"What's in a persons heart comes out through their behavior so the person is condemned. You can't separate the person from their behavior "

Yes and No. It's true that a person's behavior is reflective of what's in their heart and their behavior condemns them.

However, the Christian is always mindful, that God created us all, God loves us all despite our behavior, and we have the potential to become what God intended for us. All of us have been condemned by our behavior in some way or another.

But it is not for us, to look and say that a person who exhibits bad behavior is not worthy of God's mercy should they repent. It is for us to see every individual as God sees them and with the potential that God sees them with.

That's why Ken Ham separates the behavior from the person.

51 posted on 05/23/2005 6:43:44 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Why do some people take it so personal if others feel different than they do about what happened before recorded time?


52 posted on 05/23/2005 6:44:18 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: DannyTN

Dirt --> Man

Man's Rib --> Woman

Gee, that's MUCH better. I thought having a spacer between us and dirt would be an upgrade.


53 posted on 05/23/2005 6:44:33 AM PDT by Atheist_Canadian_Conservative
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To: icwhatudo
I thought this was a joke article from the onion.

Unfortunately it's not. :-(

54 posted on 05/23/2005 6:45:08 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


55 posted on 05/23/2005 6:48:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Junior
"They'll spend $25 million dollars on this "museum" and then turn around and bitch that they can't get grant money to do their "research.""

"GRANT" money does seem to be what allllll the FEAR is about with the EVO's. Tooooooo sad that this guy is spending alllll this loot on 'his' perception of what is WRITTEN.

Sadly nowhere does the literal WORD claim this earth is merely 6,000 years old. As it is WRITTEN "there is nothing new under the sun"!
56 posted on 05/23/2005 6:50:29 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Sybeck1
Why do some people take it so personal if others feel different than they do about what happened before recorded time?

Because they are trying to “sneak” their religion into the public schools by masquerading it as science.

57 posted on 05/23/2005 6:53:38 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Sybeck1
"Why do some people take it so personal if others feel different than they do about what happened before recorded time?"

I can't speak for evolutionists, I can only speak for the creationist side.

First, the stakes are extremely high. Emotion that you sense, may reflect the stakes rather than "taking it personally".

But Creationists may take it personally because they feel people are calling God a liar and they love God. It's not unlike saying something bad about your momma.

Evolutionists probably take it personally, because their decision to reject God and live the way they want to hangs in the balance.

Both sides may have invested time and effort into their sides cause and don't want to see that their efforts were in vain.

58 posted on 05/23/2005 7:08:46 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: RadioAstronomer
"Because they are trying to “sneak” their religion into the public schools by masquerading it as science."

Exactly right. There is no reason to be teaching the religion of evolution to kindergardeners. But they have snuck it in there, despite the prohibition on religious instruction in public schools.

59 posted on 05/23/2005 7:10:12 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Oh wait! What was I thinking?! Our amphibious Egyptians were inundated beneath about 29,050 feet of water.


60 posted on 05/23/2005 7:16:53 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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