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LIVE Senate Filibuster Thread ~ Day 4
C-span ^ | 5-23-05 | US Senate

Posted on 05/23/2005 8:14:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Senate Debate on Nominations Today the Senate resumes debate on the nomination of Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. The Senate will conduct its first roll call vote of the week at 5:30pm. Follow the C-SPAN networks & C-SPAN Radio for the debate on Senate rules & judicial nominations. MON., 11:30AM ET, C-SPAN2

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ORDERS FOR MONDAY, MAY 23, 2005 -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it stand in adjournment until 11:30 a.m. on Monday, May 23. I further ask that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved, and that the Senate then return to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, provided that the time from 12 noon until 1 p.m. be under the control of the majority leader or his designee and, at 1 p.m., the Democratic leader or his designee be recognized; provided that floor time then rotate between the two leaders or their designees every 60 minutes until 4 p.m., at which time the majority leader or his designee be recognized until 4:45 p.m., to be followed by the Democrat leader or his designee from 4:45 p.m. until 5:30 p.m.

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered.

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PROGRAM -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, on Monday, the Senate will resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to serve as a circuit judge on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Monday will be the fourth consecutive day the Senate considers the Owen nomination.

Over the past 3 days, a number of Members, on both sides of the aisle, have come to the floor to speak on the nomination. We have conducted over 25 hours of debate, and we will continue on Monday. Moments ago, we filed a cloture motion on the nomination, and that will ripen on Tuesday of next week.

On behalf of the majority leader, I remind my colleagues the leader has announced our next rollcall vote will occur Monday afternoon at 5:30. That vote will be on a motion to instruct the Sergeant at Arms to request Senators' attendance. Senator Frist will have more to say about next week's session on Monday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 23may2005; constitutionaloption; democratnukereaction; execfilibusterbuster; filibuster; reidsnuclearreaction; ussenate
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To: Deo et Patria; All

I agree with you.

A "RINO" is a person that uses the Republican Party to gain elective office, than effectively abandons Party in a move to appeal to the MSM or Democrats.

It doesn't concern Liberalism. It doesn't concern conservatism. It does not even speak to leadership ability or courage. It concerns an unprincipled individual with no allegiance to the Party that brought them to the table.

Frist is not a RINO, no one could credibly make the case.


81 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:16 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: spudsmaki
I'm not interested in reason

Yes, we know.

82 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:22 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Quaker

Please, let's not call it by the nuclear option anymore.

I'll second this!


83 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:28 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Mo1

This is smart to have Sen Dole to outline all the obstruction over the past 3 years into the record


84 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:38 AM PDT by MJY1288 ( By Comparison...."Dingy" Harry Reid makes Tom Daschle look like a Statesman)
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To: Cboldt

Well put. Great points.

Thanks.


85 posted on 05/23/2005 8:54:49 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Soul Seeker
A RINO is a Republican in name only. If everyone keeps tossing that designation around where it does not fit, it will no longer have any meaning.

It doesn't have much meaning now. Y'all (not just you, FReepers in general) are too touchy about labels. Eschew labels and your sensitivities won't be activated.

86 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MamaLucci

I'd love to see Frist wheel a hand-truck full of cheese into the Senate when Reid is talking - er, whining.


87 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:36 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: rwa265

You're absolutely right, rwa265. This is more of the same garbage from petulant people who would rather complain than get results. Frist is doing exactly what needs to be done, but these posters can't see that attacking him weakens our resolve at the PRECISE moment that we need to be unified.

Why not use the energy spent on attacking Frist on herding RINOs like Graham (SC) who can really hurt us, instead of bashing the guys who are actually doing our bidding? I'll never understand that mindset.


88 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:41 AM PDT by Deo et Patria (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Bahbah
Liddy Dole up looking quite fine and kicking a few you know whats with her comments

She does it with such class too!

89 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:43 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ("Harry Reid in stripes, I kinda like that image." -Tagline courtesy of DFU. Thanks!)
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To: Txsleuth

Now THAT is hardship! LOL.

I only watch TV virtually always--as background to Fr! LOL.

Perhaps you need to give your daughter a new wheeled TV cart!?


90 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:48 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Peach
Finally got through to Graham's Upstate office! The staffer said Graham will vote for Priscilla Owens tomorrow in an up or down vote and she will be confirmed. However, I couldn't get a commitment that Graham would stop trying to work out a compromise. He did acknowledge that they are following what is being posted on the internet. Graham should be aware of the trouble he is in. It will be interesting to see if he is smart enough to listen to his constituents, or if he is intent upon becoming a so-called Moderate.

One point on this. As I recall during the impeachment hearings Lindsay Graham was quite squishy early on while seated on the House Judiciary Committee. But he kept an open mind and ended up being one of the Impeached Rapist's most vocal critics.

91 posted on 05/23/2005 8:56:03 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: OXENinFLA; Peach

You are SO right---any compromise that would have that language in it is definitely a Dem win--no exceptions allowed.

Okay, Peach, maybe we should mention Graham's fate if the votes against the Const. Option more often...

You know, like all of us will do whatever it takes to get him defeated in the next election!!!!


92 posted on 05/23/2005 8:56:09 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: All

I agree (on the labels) but I don't think it is appropriate for anyone to be blasting Senator Frist. He deserves our support in this.


93 posted on 05/23/2005 8:56:44 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: cc2k
The Republicans are determined to get these judges a vote while simultaneously doing the maximum amount of political damage to themselves.

Okay, sure. Whatever.

94 posted on 05/23/2005 8:56:50 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: cc2k
The polls show two thirds to as many as four fifths of the people in this country want an up or down vote for these nominees. The Dems can't filibuster that for long. The up or down vote will come. The best course of action is to hold tough and get the vote. The polls also show that half to two thirds of the people in this country think that changing the Senate rules in the middle of this is a bad idea. That's not something we should be advocating. It's not good for the Republicans politically to change the rules.

Superfluous

Most of the people in this country are simply interested in watching American Idol or sports programming.

Republicans must show they can fight the obstructionists Democrats and win. People respect strength and winners.

Senators, Pull the Trigger and Vote !


95 posted on 05/23/2005 8:57:04 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Bahbah
It's gonna be real interesting to see if the dems blink on the Clotures of the appeals court appointees.

A caller on Bill Bennett's show brought up something I was thinking of too.

What's happens if the dems ALLOW Owen, Brown & others to have an up/down and wait to not invoke cloture until a SC judge?
96 posted on 05/23/2005 8:57:29 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: Peach

Keep calling . . . they are listening. Most of all . . . be respectful and tell them exactly what it is you expect from the Senator . . . nothing more.


97 posted on 05/23/2005 8:57:42 AM PDT by jayef (e)
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To: Cboldt

If it doesn't have meaning, why do people cringe when labeled such? I assume you do not like Labels. I do. So long as they accurately define the person they are placed on.

It does have meaning, and it does serve a useful purpose so long as others do not water down its meaning.


98 posted on 05/23/2005 8:57:51 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: spudsmaki

Frist a Rino you're joking I hope. If he was one we wouldn't be having this debate right now!


99 posted on 05/23/2005 8:57:58 AM PDT by GOP
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To: Deo et Patria

I say he has been dragged to this because he would not have done it if he had not felt the pressure from conservative groups and constitutionalists. I'm sick of republicans trying to gain the high ground because they'll never get there. No matter how high they get or how many conciliation they attempt to make, they will still be blamed for the starving children and old ladies eating catfood. We gave him the power with more seats in November. Use it. Enough delays. Yes, we're finally here, but it's been a long wait.


100 posted on 05/23/2005 8:58:25 AM PDT by cotton1706
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