LIVE Senate Filibuster Thread ~ Day 4

C-span ^ | 5-23-05 | US Senate

[EQAndyBuzz]

"Feinstein is sickening. Now matter how many times the dems recite the mantra, it isn't a RULES CHANGE."

I thought it was a rules change and a legal one. Aren't the Pubbies doing what Byrd did in the 70's?

[Cboldt]

[The history of changes to Rule XII] basically voids any argument by the Dems that it takes 60 votes to change a Senate rule. Byrd didn't even get 60 to change the rules but if the Dems argument holds any water they needed 67. Byrd changed the rules 4 times on a simple majority.

Check the historical votes again. Implementation of and changes to Rule XXII were made with at least 2/3rds of members present and voting.

I don't disagree that Byrd has engineered some rules changes on a simple majority, but he didn't engineer a change to the cloture hurdle on that basis.

[STARWISE]

I'm with you 1000% -- to see the way that Estrada was publicly and professionally humiliated, kept in a perpetual holding pattern, interrogated down to his briefs .. just unconscionable!!

And, yet -- all the libs are falling all over themselves, kissing the ring of the new Latino mayor in LA -- Newsweak giving BIG kudos -- and a "get used to it" tag?? The message is clear -- ANY ethnic is just fabulous UNLESS they're conservative -- hyprocritical maniacs!!

A LATINO POWER SURGE

See the LIBS DROOL

Excerpt:

"Antonio Villaraigosa's cell phone was trilling incessantly. Every Democrat in the nation, it seemed, wanted a piece of the newly elected mayor of Los Angeles, the first Latino to win the office in 133 years. John Kerry phoned to congratulate him, as did John Edwards, Howard Dean, Al Gore and Sen. Chris Dodd. Driving to city hall last Friday as he spoke by phone with a news-week reporter, Villaraigosa interrupted the interview to field yet another call on a different phone.

"Yes, I would like to speak to Senator Clinton," he said. "Can I call you back?" he told the reporter. Afterward, Villaraigosa recounted his exchange with Hillary: "She said that she and President Clinton were just elated with my victory," and "if they could be helpful in any way in the coming weeks and months," they were eager to do so. Villaraigosa said he had responded with a few admiring words of his own. She was "an example of what I need to do as mayor of the city of Los Angeles," he had told her. "Not get so caught up in all of the national attention and focus on my job."

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Their transparency is SO comical and pathetic.

[Soul Seeker]

I don't disagree, however, I was a child when Bork went down due to their manuverings.

In my memory it is Estrada, not Bork, that inspires a personalized sense of loss. This would be different for those of age to be affected by what happened to Bork. I do recall some of what Thomas went through, but in end he was confirmed.

[Carolinamom]

Going along to get along is the Rodney King form of that damned "comity" these senators so love, wanting to be in good standing w/the rest of the boys and girls in the club.

COMITY SHOULD NOT TRUMP REPRESENTATION OF AND FOR THEIR CONSTITUENCY.

[defconw]

I would love to wake up one morning in America and discover that there are no liberals in America. Just hard working, God-fearing, Patriotic, Flag waving Americans!

[Milhous]

A Rush caller asks, "Will the Democrats survive Dr Dean?" LOL.

[cbkaty]

The dem party reminds me of the movie...The Incredible Shrinking Man......

Will their shrillness even be heard when they become so small that even their sound is of negative decibels?

[cbkaty]

The dem party reminds me of the movie...The Incredible Shrinking Man......

Will their shrillness even be heard when they become so small that even their sound is of negative decibels?

[Txsleuth]

Checked the other thread and the vote in the SCOTUS re: shackeling murderer in court---the vote only had two dissenters--

Scalia and Thomas!!!!

[EQAndyBuzz]

"Cool! How about a televised all nighter? maybe they can air Boxer and Di seated around the campfire with Reid and Byrd singing, "Kumbaya"."

They are wheeling in cots? Maybe the Dims spent the weekend gearing up for the real filibuster. They have something up their sleeve.

[So Cal Rocket]

I would love to wake up one morning in America and discover that there are no liberals in America. Just hard working, God-fearing, Patriotic, Flag waving Americans!

It's easy, all you need to do is set your alarm clock for 1776.

[Txsleuth]

Hillary will probably chose him as her running mate !!

There is also a new thread about how Vincente Fox is having a meeting today with Al Sharpton in order for the "two groups" to work together for their "common needs"!!!

Oh, my.....

[Carolinamom]

Where is it that judges are now allowed to carry guns into the court room? I read it somewhere recently, and since that murder rampage in Atlanta, I can well understand the need.

[ShowMeMom]

They have something up their sleeve.

Yep, it's two left arms.

[Milhous]

Outside of DC on a day to day basis people want to end leftist judicial activism, Akaka.

[defconw]

Scalia and Thomas!!!!


If I were king, Scalia would be chief and Thomas would be number two and the rest would be gone! Maybe Rhenquist didn't really know what they were talking about? I find it hard to believe that he would have voted witht he liberals. I can understand when there is a jury to determine guilt or innocence, but sentnecing? That's BS!

[defconw]

LOL i remain optimistic that it could happen again!

[small voice in the wilderness]

The dems. have nothing. They're waiting for a blink from the other side. Something. Anything. It's not going to happen THIS TIME. Their temper tantrums and threats have been called. Tomorrow is the day the Republicans get their balls back.

[tobyhill]

The premise is that Byrd changed rules based on a simple majority, countering any argument that the Dems have now that the Republicans must have 60 votes just to change the rules. 2/3rds were present but it still only required 51 to change the rules then and that's all it should take now.