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LIVE Senate Filibuster Thread ~ Day 4
C-span ^ | 5-23-05 | US Senate

Posted on 05/23/2005 8:14:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Senate Debate on Nominations Today the Senate resumes debate on the nomination of Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. The Senate will conduct its first roll call vote of the week at 5:30pm. Follow the C-SPAN networks & C-SPAN Radio for the debate on Senate rules & judicial nominations. MON., 11:30AM ET, C-SPAN2

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ORDERS FOR MONDAY, MAY 23, 2005 -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate completes its business today, it stand in adjournment until 11:30 a.m. on Monday, May 23. I further ask that following the prayer and pledge, the morning hour be deemed expired, the Journal of proceedings be approved to date, the time for the two leaders be reserved, and that the Senate then return to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, provided that the time from 12 noon until 1 p.m. be under the control of the majority leader or his designee and, at 1 p.m., the Democratic leader or his designee be recognized; provided that floor time then rotate between the two leaders or their designees every 60 minutes until 4 p.m., at which time the majority leader or his designee be recognized until 4:45 p.m., to be followed by the Democrat leader or his designee from 4:45 p.m. until 5:30 p.m.

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so ordered.

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PROGRAM -- (Senate - May 20, 2005)

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Mr. CORNYN. Mr. President, on Monday, the Senate will resume consideration of the nomination of Priscilla Owen to serve as a circuit judge on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Monday will be the fourth consecutive day the Senate considers the Owen nomination.

Over the past 3 days, a number of Members, on both sides of the aisle, have come to the floor to speak on the nomination. We have conducted over 25 hours of debate, and we will continue on Monday. Moments ago, we filed a cloture motion on the nomination, and that will ripen on Tuesday of next week.

On behalf of the majority leader, I remind my colleagues the leader has announced our next rollcall vote will occur Monday afternoon at 5:30. That vote will be on a motion to instruct the Sergeant at Arms to request Senators' attendance. Senator Frist will have more to say about next week's session on Monday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 23may2005; constitutionaloption; democratnukereaction; execfilibusterbuster; filibuster; reidsnuclearreaction; ussenate
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To: cajungirl

"Just got here on a break from work, what is happening?"

Basic babbling as required by a super majority.


261 posted on 05/23/2005 10:09:04 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: rwa265

Thanks for the link. Good source of information.


262 posted on 05/23/2005 10:09:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Mo1

I suppose she wants the Supreme Court to decide what the Senate can and can't do
No just the Democrats, they get to make all the rules even if they can't win an election (sarcasm) Are these people for real? THEY STILL DON'T GET IT!


263 posted on 05/23/2005 10:09:44 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: ShowMeMom

About the SC not allowing shackles -- It was funny that here's a guy, the jury has already said he is such a threat to society that he has to be locked up forever, and yet seven supreme court justices, without any indication in law OR in the constitution, simply decided that being in shackles would sway the jury to think the person was even MORE dangerous.

He is a convicted murderer, but what really scares the jury is that he has to wear shackles?

Schumer says we only want a couple of originalists on any court. The originalists ruled right on this case.


264 posted on 05/23/2005 10:10:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (http://spaces.msn.com/members/criticallythinking)
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To: Peach

"The only explanation I have for Graham doing so is to present himself as a moderate for a future presidential run. Well, he can forget it. I wouldn't support him even if he won the primary."

This country will never elect a gay president.


265 posted on 05/23/2005 10:10:28 AM PDT by nj26
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To: Fudd Fan
Remember when your colleague Boxer nuked Senate civility a few weeks ago, Di?
Transcript of remarks between Boxer and Rice

SEN. BOXER: Well, you should read what we voted on when we voted to support the war, which I did not, but most of my colleagues did. It was WMD, period. That was the reason and the causation for that, you know, particular vote.

But, again, I just feel you quote President Bush when it suits you but you contradicted him when he said, "Yes, Saddam could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year." You go on television nine months later and said, "Nobody ever said it was" --

MS. RICE: Senator, that was just a question of pointing out to people that there was an uncertainty. No one was saying that he would have to have a weapon within a year for it to be worth it to go to war.

SEN. BOXER: Well, if you can't admit to this mistake, I hope that you'll --

MS. RICE: Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like. But I really hope that you will refrain from impugning my integrity. Thank you very much.

SEN. BOXER: I'm not. I'm just quoting what you said. You contradicted the president and you contradicted yourself.

MS. RICE: Senator, I'm happy to continue the discussion, but I really hope that you will not imply that I take the truth lightly.

SEN. LUGAR: Let me intervene at this point. Now we've had four hours of good hearing, and we thank all members for their constancy. We're going to recess, and I'm going to suggest we come back at 2:30. Is that convenient for you, Dr. Rice?

MS. RICE: Perfect.

SEN. LUGAR: Very well. We recess until 2:30.


266 posted on 05/23/2005 10:10:30 AM PDT by Milhous
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To: Bush_Democrat

http://www.thelouisvillechannel.com/news/4519795/detail.html


Senators Expect To Pull All-Nighter Before Filibuster Vote

POSTED: 12:10 pm EDT May 23, 2005
UPDATED: 12:27 pm EDT May 23, 2005

WASHINGTON -- The Senate is gearing up for an all-night debate before a critical vote on the fate of the judicial filibuster.

Custodians rolled cots into the Strom Thurmond room as the Senate convened for what is expected to be a lengthy session.

A dozen moderates are running out of time in their effort to hammer out a compromise to avoid a vote on triggering the so-called nuclear option, so named because of the sweeping impact it will have on how the Senate does its work.

(snip)


267 posted on 05/23/2005 10:10:44 AM PDT by maggief
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To: jayef

I'm always very polite when I call but when I called last week I told the staffer that I'd never vote for Graham again under any circumstances and that the Senatorial part of the ballot will remain blank as long as his name remains on it.


268 posted on 05/23/2005 10:10:56 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Bahbah
All they have are appeals to Pubbies to bolt the party and come over to the dark side and the threat that you guys might not be in the majority someday.

Di's getting a bit long in the tooth to expect to live to see that day.

269 posted on 05/23/2005 10:11:01 AM PDT by ShowMeMom (Allen/Rice 08!!)
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To: defconw

Well then if she is going to bring THAT up, then I say it is "gloves off"---

The next REP speaker should bring up the ethics charges that Reid faces for alluding to Judge Saads FBI records!!!


270 posted on 05/23/2005 10:11:27 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: defconw

Did I hear Diane Feinstein right? Did she say Orrin Hatch suggested Ruth Bader Ginsberg and one other judge to Bill Clinton, for the Supreme Court?


271 posted on 05/23/2005 10:11:36 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@YIKES.com)
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To: Txsleuth

I told the staffer I spoke with last week that Graham got his last vote for me. Unless he does an about face on this compromise deal. And I meant it. And so does my husband. He's over as far as I'm concerned.


272 posted on 05/23/2005 10:11:43 AM PDT by Peach
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To: SandyInSeattle
Feinstein is sickening. Now matter how many times the dems recite the mantra, it isn't a RULES CHANGE.

It isn't a motion to change the rules, in that sense, absolutely correct.

But the fact that the GOP invoked Rule XXII makes it cake-walk easy to convince people that the issue of judicial confirmation is in that rule, and that to get to the confirmation/rejection vote requires first to get past that rule.

If it doesn't require getting past that rule, why did the GOP invoke it?

273 posted on 05/23/2005 10:11:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Milhous

Sickens me to read that again. Comity in the Senate, Mrs. Feinstein.


274 posted on 05/23/2005 10:11:46 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: cotton1706
I was the first one on this thread that called Frist a RINO. Let's see if he proves me wrong. I promised the Major in the Salvation Army $1000 for every Democrat who votes for a Bush judicial nominee in the next 30 days. What are the chances that will be a nonzero number? Pretty small.

I go back to the days of Bob Michel, the Republican Minority leader of the House. Now there was a guy who threw away victory after victory for no reason other than to be liked by the press. He was the reason the Republicans were a minority in the House for so many decades. Gingrich made him sick to his stomach. Michel made Vacant Lott look industrious.

This will make or break Frist's presidential ambitions, although Cornyn or Allen would likely be a better candidate. If Frist fails, the Republicans will properly be ridiculed and laughed out of office.

It's showtime, Bill.

275 posted on 05/23/2005 10:12:09 AM PDT by spudsmaki
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To: Bahbah

All they have are appeals to Pubbies to bolt the party and come over to the dark side and the threat that you guys might not be in the majority someday.

We will not let the dimmy's back in power will we? NO, they are aborting themselves out of existence!


276 posted on 05/23/2005 10:12:21 AM PDT by defconw ( Vote Up or Down on Janice Brown!)
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To: maggiefluffs

Cool! How about a televised all nighter? maybe they can air Boxer and Di seated around the campfire with Reid and Byrd singing, "Kumbaya".


277 posted on 05/23/2005 10:13:07 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Coop

Graham did fairly well as an Impeachment manager but he voted against one of the articles of impeachment in the end.

He plays a good game...both sides against the middle. He's a McCainiac.

Several months ago when I complained about Graham on the Sunday talk show thread, I got pounded. But we live in SC and I think everyone is catching onto his game...even those who don't live here.


278 posted on 05/23/2005 10:13:07 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Txsleuth
I saw where the SCOTUS ruled that it is unconstitutional for a murder suspect to be shackled in the courtroom.

Guess we need to borrow from the international scene and use the cages like the Russians are using for one of the Beslan murderers on trial.

279 posted on 05/23/2005 10:14:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Milhous

INdeed, at least that exchange showed who has class. And it was not the boxer-dog.


280 posted on 05/23/2005 10:14:42 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (red, red voter in a blue, blue state)
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