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Dr. James Dobson Blasts Filibuster 'Betrayal'
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5/23/05 | Dr. James Dobson

Posted on 05/23/2005 8:34:29 PM PDT by Crackingham

"This Senate agreement represents a complete bailout and betrayal by a cabal of Republicans and a great victory for united Democrats. Only three of President Bush’s nominees will be given the courtesy of an up-or-down vote, and it's business as usual for all the rest. The rules that blocked conservative nominees remain in effect, and nothing of significance has changed. Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Antonin Scalia, and Chief Justice William Rehnquist would never have served on the U. S. Supreme Court if this agreement had been in place during their confirmations. The unconstitutional filibuster survives in the arsenal of Senate liberals.

"We are grateful to Majority Leader Frist for courageously fighting to defend the vital principle of basic fairness. That principle has now gone down to defeat. We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November. I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."


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1 posted on 05/23/2005 8:34:29 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

The dogpile begins.



Blame it on McLame.


2 posted on 05/23/2005 8:35:21 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Allen/DeLay '08!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Can't blame it on McCain. He's just one Senator.

Is he still in the Republicans caucus? Hasn't been expelled from the party yet?

No?

Then I blame the Republican party.


3 posted on 05/23/2005 8:36:53 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Crackingham
Make no mistake people, conservatives are being kept out of the judiciary in the same exact manner as were the black children kept from Southern schools in the Jim Crow era.

By some of the same people, too.

4 posted on 05/23/2005 8:37:26 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: Crackingham

At his very best, Frist is a limp wrist RINO. He is in charge, lay the blame at his feet.


5 posted on 05/23/2005 8:37:56 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Crackingham

Ditto what Dobson said.
The one thing I cannot figure out is why Pryor was one of the three protected nominees? That pandering punk is the first one I would have dumped after the way he stabbed his "friend" Judge Roy Moore, as well as America herself, right in the back.


6 posted on 05/23/2005 8:38:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Crackingham

Who were the other 13 senators who sold out the country, besides McCain, and in return got nothing that we didn't already have?


8 posted on 05/23/2005 8:38:52 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: Crackingham

So what? The Judicial nominees get an up or down vote, and Frist keeps the threat of the nuclear option until the next time the obstructionists threaten a filibuster.


9 posted on 05/23/2005 8:40:04 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: Crackingham
"We are grateful to Majority Leader Frist for courageously fighting to defend the vital principle of basic fairness. That principle has now gone down to defeat. We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November. I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."

Ditto here. I have no desire to punish Frist or the others that held the line. My fury is on the cabal and I want them to pay dearly. make them bleed and regret the day they ever betrayed our constitution and the people that put them in power.

10 posted on 05/23/2005 8:40:50 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Crackingham

11 posted on 05/23/2005 8:41:02 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: Vicomte13
"Can't blame it on McCain. He's just one Senator"

BS. He has the visibility to give cover to the other followers. He is not singularly to blame, but he is more than equally to blame.

12 posted on 05/23/2005 8:41:23 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Crackingham
"I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."

You are damned straight about that, Dr. Dobson.

13 posted on 05/23/2005 8:41:57 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Crackingham

So Dr., are you willing to convey the message that we're going to replace those pretending to be Republican leaders.


14 posted on 05/23/2005 8:42:28 PM PDT by G Larry (Promote Conservative Judges NOW! YOU BUNCH OF COWARDS!!!)
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To: SmithL

"The Judicial nominees get an up or down vote, and Frist keeps the threat of the nuclear option until the next time the obstructionists threaten a filibuster."

There are seven former Republicans who might have something to say about that.


15 posted on 05/23/2005 8:43:02 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: Crackingham
Now the Republicans are going down the river without a paddle.
16 posted on 05/23/2005 8:43:37 PM PDT by bulldozer
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To: Lancey Howard
Theoretically, Pryor's there because of some connection to Hillary. At least I have heard that alleged.

This makes him sound pretty conservative, though.

17 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:00 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Crackingham
Dobson bitches too much for my tastes. Is is that time of the month?

In this deal the American people are the big winners. There are no losers. Look on the bright side. The Bolten nomination is dead now.

18 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:02 PM PDT by MurryMom
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To: Lancey Howard
The one thing I cannot figure out is why Pryor was one of the three protected nominees?

Because Democrats know that Pryor is an ambitious little snot, and after a few years on the unelected federal bench he'll turn into another activist judge they can use.

19 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:43 PM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: Crackingham
Remember the RINOs!

Senate RINOs opposing the nuclear constitutional option
Next Election Name State
2006 Snowe ME
2006 Chafee RI
2006 DeWine ME
2008 Graham NE
2008 Warner VA
2008 Collins VA
2010 McCain AZ

20 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:52 PM PDT by Milhous
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To: Lancey Howard
The one thing I cannot figure out is why Pryor was one of the three protected nominees?

Maybe it has to do with Pryor already having served due to the recess appointment.

21 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:56 PM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: MurryMom

I thought I smelled sulphur, and now here you are!


22 posted on 05/23/2005 8:44:59 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Crackingham

What wimps.I must be missing something.What could the dems be holding over their heads?I feel like i just got kicked in the teeth.


23 posted on 05/23/2005 8:45:27 PM PDT by thombo
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To: Milhous

DeWine is OH.


24 posted on 05/23/2005 8:45:30 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: thoughtomator
conservatives are being kept out of the judiciary

Brown, Owens, and Pryor are apparently headed to the bench, so that conservatives are being kept out isn't entirely true. The way I view this is that it's a tactical retreat by the Dems, who will regroup and fight again another day. The question will then be, what will the Quislings in the GOP do? I hope they will feel the sharp pain of the knife in their collective back.

25 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:01 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: G Larry

Nothing against doctors, but most of them don't make very good politicians.


26 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:01 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Soul Seeker

the only way frist can show himself as a leader in this situation is to ignore the compromise. otherwise he is in on it.


27 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:02 PM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: Vicomte13
Can't blame it on McCain. He's just one Senator.

You wanna make a bet

McCain can kiss any chance of ever being the Republican Candidate in 08

As for the rest of the gang of 7 .. a few of them may find re-election difficult

28 posted on 05/23/2005 8:46:13 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: MurryMom
Is is that time of the month?

It must be, you've reared your ugly head.

29 posted on 05/23/2005 8:47:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Lancey Howard
The one thing I cannot figure out is why Pryor was one of the three protected nominees?

It's very simple. Carl Levin wanted Saad out of the way because he wants the job to go to his cousin's wife, and also Saad on that Circuit Court would have tilted its current tie to the right. Similarly, Myers was headed for a court where he would have tilted the balance. The RATs cannot allow that. Pryor will go where he will make little or no difference on a majorty RAT court...so they don't care. All that matters is the SCORE. It's not enough to get these people on. It's WHERE they go that is so critical...to tilt the balance in our favor. Clinton had SO many judges that it is an uphill battle.

That is why BUSH CANNOT PERMIT THIS TO STAND. If need be, he must choose July 4th as the line on the sand. Bush must tell the Senate: "You will allow an up or down vote on EVERY nominee by July 4th, or on that Independence Day, I shall recess appoint whomever is fillibustered, and take my fight to the people, and against the obstructionists, in the midterm elections"

30 posted on 05/23/2005 8:47:43 PM PDT by montag813
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Dr. James Dobson Blasts Filibuster 'Betrayal'

Uh oh, you can just smell another book on the way…

31 posted on 05/23/2005 8:49:15 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: thoughtomator

Well said.

Sadly by far, tooooooo true.


32 posted on 05/23/2005 8:49:32 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: SmithL

It's a useless threat.

The only chance we have to get the filibuster against male nominees ended is putting these RINOs on record against changing it while the face of the nominee is female. White guys don't stand a chance against the character assassination the Rats will spew out. Hell, we barely got Clarence Thomas through.

If Frist doesn't force the issue as I detailed in a Vanity on the topic, it'll be dead and there's no way they'll pull it out for the SCOTUS unless the appointee is also female. And I'm sick of watching highly qualified nominees step aside because they're white and male. Do you approve of this harassment? Because until the filibuster is ended, it will successfully continue.


33 posted on 05/23/2005 8:49:48 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: DesScorp

TGW's

TRAITOROUS, GLOBALIST, WIMPS


34 posted on 05/23/2005 8:50:33 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: DesScorp

Paraphrasing Mencken, "It's time to raise the black flag and begin slitting throats."

Agreed.


35 posted on 05/23/2005 8:50:38 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Petronski
DeWine is OH

Corrected. And Graham's actually from SC. I'm embarrassed that my state column got FUBARed since the last time RINOs reared their fugly heads a few months ago.

36 posted on 05/23/2005 8:50:49 PM PDT by Milhous
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To: DesScorp

I have a new nickname for Warner.."Neville" as in Chamberlain..


37 posted on 05/23/2005 8:51:07 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Crackingham

I really don't see how we could force the rats to filibuster so we can get rid of it. Its no surprise that in the face of defeat they would retreat in hopes of using it again.


38 posted on 05/23/2005 8:51:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: MurryMom

Huh? The American people lose. Conservatives lose. And you're happy the Bolton nomination is dead?


39 posted on 05/23/2005 8:51:31 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Soul Seeker

I agree. This cabal was and is out of control. They are not team players. Let's say there's a family with five kids. Four of the kids grow up well, respect their parents, support one another, and are productive members of society. One child is a slacker who shows no interest in getting an education or a job, is disrepectful of his parents, and rejects their values. Who is to blame? I don't think there's a parent alive who doesn't recognize that every once in awhile a "bad seed" takes root, and while one may quibble about past parental actions toward the obstreperous child, that child is ultimately responsible for his own rebellion. That's what McCain and Co. are -- bad seeds. I place the blame on them more than Frist.


40 posted on 05/23/2005 8:51:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: SmithL
Frist keeps the threat of the nuclear option until the next time the obstructionists threaten a filibuster.

Except that 7 RINOs pledged this:

B. Rules Changes. In light of the spirit and continuing commitments made in this agreement, we commit to oppose the rules changes in the 109th Congress, which we understand to be any amendment to or interpretation of the Rules of the Senate that would force a vote on a judicial nomination by means other than unanimous consent or Rule XXII.

Dems get to filibuster in case of "extraordinary circumstances" but the GOP of course doesn't get the same deal in terms of the constitutional option.

We got screwed big time. 

I blame McCain personally, and I intended to pragmatically support him in 2008 if he ran, up until a few hours ago.

41 posted on 05/23/2005 8:51:33 PM PDT by RWR8189 (I Will Sit on My Hands in 2008 Instead of Voting for McCain)(No Money for the NRSC)
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To: SmithL
You have it right. Nothing is locked in stone with the socalled compromise.

Actually,it appears to be a clever diversion.The press will swoon,McCain gets his facetime,and three nominees are a slam dunk.

The fight can start again,but this time the dems are on record accepting judges they have vllified for years.

42 posted on 05/23/2005 8:51:49 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: montag813

Where is the list?
Where are the phone numbers?
I feel like remembering right now.


43 posted on 05/23/2005 8:52:13 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Crackingham
"We are grateful to Majority Leader Frist for courageously fighting to defend the vital principle of basic fairness. That principle has now gone down to defeat. We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November. I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."

This is too generous to Frist and the administration. Were any of the seven R's who bolted told that if they did, they would receive no support from the RNSC in the next election, that the President would seek out and campaign for a R that would support his judicial nominees in the next primary election, and that the Senator's state would not get a single piece of pork ever again?

Of course not. And that's why the seven were free to bolt. There was and will be no price imposed by the national party for betrayal on the most important issue of this congress. Accordingly, Frist and the Administration were just as much to blame for this fiasco as McCain.

McCain and his ilk are just being themselves--weak people who think that the current Supreme Court is doing a pretty good job. Why should they not betray their party if there is no price?

44 posted on 05/23/2005 8:52:14 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: montag813

Alas, I'm concerned that the globalist's timeline may trump such patriotic efforts . . . or . . . failing that . . . to neutralize them within a few short months or years after 2006 or 2008.


45 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:05 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: MurryMom

You only come when its bad news for rats. Thanks for reassurance.


46 posted on 05/23/2005 8:53:18 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: RWR8189

They all blew it big time and we should do everything we can to defeat them. I will give my senate money to any group(conservative) that go's after these idiots.


47 posted on 05/23/2005 8:54:16 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Eagles6

MurryMom is a long-time left-wing Bush-hater who has somehow managed to avoid getting the royal zot.


48 posted on 05/23/2005 8:54:23 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: cherry_bomb88
Got any room over there at the Constitution Party for a beleaguered Reagan-Conservative?
49 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:19 PM PDT by jla
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To: Milhous

Well, not to pig-pile, but Collins is ME, not VA.


As long as your chart got FUBARed, it might as well go for it 100%, eh?

;O)


50 posted on 05/23/2005 8:55:31 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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