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Age-old debate over N.C. barbecue fired up
AP Wire ^ | May 29, 2005 | AP Wire

Posted on 05/29/2005 11:47:02 AM PDT by varina davis

Age-Old Debate Over N.C. Barbecue Fired Up

By MARTHA WAGGONER Associated Press Writer

10:15 AM PDT, May 29, 2005

ARCADIA, N.C. — Fourth-graders here expected a civics lesson when they suggested that the Lexington Barbecue Festival be named the state's official food festival. Instead, they got a lesson in the fierce intrastate rivalry over barbecue that pits west vs. east, tomato vs. vinegar and whole shoulder against whole pig.

"I didn't know so many people would be asking questions and wanting to know how I feel about it," said 10-year-old Kaylyn Vaughan. "You have to realize it is a very big deal."

While Texas generally unites behind beef brisket, Kansas City has its slathered ribs and South Carolina holds dear to its mustard-sauced pork, North Carolinians are divided about their two distinct barbecue styles.

Crowning one style as "official" would be a mistake, said Bob Garner, author of the book "North Carolina Barbecue," which doesn't take a stand on which version is supreme.

"The whole story of barbecue in North Carolina is about these two distinct styles and this fun, family argument that we just refuse to get rid of," Garner said. "People love to argue about this."

North Carolina's western barbecue, also known as Lexington or Piedmont, is made from the shoulder of the hog and has a red, tomato-based sauce. Eastern style takes seriously an old North Carolina adage -- "We use every part of the pig except the squeal" -- and uses a vinegar-based sauce.

The argument about which is best has waged forever, although Garner said eastern style came first. The state's tourism division even conducted an online poll in 2002. Thousands of votes were cast, with eastern winning by a snout, although the head of the Lexington visitors bureau demanded a recount.

The pupils of Friedberg Elementary School in west-central North Carolina fired up the fight innocently enough in February when they decided to undertake a civics project. They could have studied the state tree, the state bird or the state fish. They chose food.

They wrote letters to lawmakers asking that the one-day Lexington event, one of Travel & Leisure magazine's Top 10 food festivals, be named the "state food festival."

Two lawmakers obliged, but when the bills were filed, they mistakenly called for Lexington's event to become the "state barbecue festival."

The damage was done.

"Remind lawmakers that while our humble pig may not get the publicity Lexington gathers from the lying Yankee press, we still put on a pretty good show," columnist Dennis Rogers, a protector of eastern-style, wrote in The News & Observer of Raleigh.

The High Point Enterprise defended the western style, calling it barbecue from "a lean, filet of pork shoulder in Lexington, not all of Old McDonald's pig."

From there, the students' lesson became political. A House committee recommended the festival receive the state designation last month, but the bill ended up in another committee. In the Senate, the bill has been stuck in committee since it was filed.

"I don't really expect that the bill will be heard," said one of its sponsors, Sen. Stan Bingham, a Republican from the Lexington style's home turf of Davidson County.

Bingham denies the bill was meant to say Lexington-style barbecue tastes better than eastern style. "It's just indicating that 150,000 people come to Lexington for the festival," he said, somewhat unconvincingly.

That's what the Friedberg children say as well. And they manage to say it without an arched eyebrow in the bunch.

"I wish we could all get along," said 10-year-old James Lumley.

Then he gets down and dirty.

"I know that we all think western is better than eastern," he said, pointing around the table at three friends, "and I think western is better."

Garner gives the nod to western-style barbecue on two counts: its aficionados have done a better job of sticking to pit-cooked barbecue than their eastern counterparts, who have no big barbecue festival comparable to Lexington's.

But Garner believes it is heresy to pass a bill that essentially gives western-style the imprimatur of being the best.

"I just think it would be a shame to set up either eastern or Lexington as the official thing when it's all about the friendly debate."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: barbecue; bbq; debate; fired; lyingyankeepress; nc
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Seemed like a good weekend for a barbecue debate
1 posted on 05/29/2005 11:47:03 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis

Lexington City Motto: "Famous for overrated Barbeque"


2 posted on 05/29/2005 11:50:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Seven disloyal senators sold the chance to crush the democrats for tv face time.)
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To: varina davis

I've never had a vinegar-based BBQ sauce. Sounds kinda good.

OTOH, I'd like to try South Carolina's mustard-based BBQ. That sounds good too.


3 posted on 05/29/2005 11:52:29 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Rebelbase

LOL

And I thought that everyone knew that the best barbecue in the world is served at a place named "Betty Roses" in Abilene Texas


4 posted on 05/29/2005 11:53:06 AM PDT by 76834 (Lock and Load)
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To: Constitution Day; stainlessbanner

A fight's a brewin'.


5 posted on 05/29/2005 11:53:39 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Seven disloyal senators sold the chance to crush the democrats for tv face time.)
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To: MplsSteve

I've had them both and enjoyed both. However, neither holds a candle to Memphis-style BBQ.


6 posted on 05/29/2005 11:54:05 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Rebelbase
"Famous for overrated Barbeque"

Ditto on that. NC has smoked pork with whatever sauce you want on it.

7 posted on 05/29/2005 11:54:29 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: MplsSteve

Down here in SC, there's a barbecue place that offers both tomato-based and vinegar-based barbecue. I usually mix them together for the best effect.

I've never seen a mustard-based sauce, though.


8 posted on 05/29/2005 11:54:42 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Robert Byrd:He may have 'gone under the water,' but the preacher didn't hold him down long enough.")
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To: varina davis

Texas style. Brisket and sausage.....with a good tomato, molasses and pepper sauce. Mustard is for hotdogs and vinegar is for salads. (Just to be clear, though, I do like Kansas City style for ribs and chicken.....)


9 posted on 05/29/2005 11:54:55 AM PDT by Bombardier (Rename the Senate the "Bill Frist National RINO Preserve")
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To: varina davis

Texas Beef BBQ and some Memphis style pork. Hmmm....


10 posted on 05/29/2005 11:55:02 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
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To: varina davis

I don't care as long as it's sliced and I can get some
outside, with a little coleslaw on it.
I don't want it on a soft bun, but white bread toasted
over the coals of the pit.
And stew, real stew not some mush that's been run through
the blender five times, till you can't tell what your eating.
UNSWEET Tea!


11 posted on 05/29/2005 11:55:09 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 76834

Rudy's in San Antonio isn't bad either.


12 posted on 05/29/2005 11:55:46 AM PDT by Bombardier (Rename the Senate the "Bill Frist National RINO Preserve")
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To: varina davis

Fat Matt's Rib Shack, Atlanta, GA.

It is the BEST.


13 posted on 05/29/2005 11:57:01 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Bombardier

Thanks:
Havnt tried theirs but the next time I'm down there I certainly will..

To start a thread like this on a slow news day is just asking for it </grin


14 posted on 05/29/2005 11:57:12 AM PDT by 76834 (Lock and Load)
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To: TennTuxedo
Dry Memphis ribs or wet KC style are hard to beat. The NC vinegar stuff just isn't BBQ.
15 posted on 05/29/2005 11:59:37 AM PDT by gbaker
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To: varina davis

Any Barbecue is fine with me, just trim that stinking blubber off! Charge me more per pound but dont feed me that crap.


16 posted on 05/29/2005 12:01:42 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: All
For today's other religious war, go here.
17 posted on 05/29/2005 12:01:54 PM PDT by dighton
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But a grilled Tbone is still the ultimate.
If funds are low a top sirloin will do.


18 posted on 05/29/2005 12:03:13 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: varina davis

I used to live in North Carolina, I thought allowing any child to grow to the ripe old age of 10 and not know the pros and cons of the two styles was ground for Child protective services to evaluate the family for neglect.

The fact the school was involved just goes to show the sorry state of the public educational system.


19 posted on 05/29/2005 12:04:19 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: No Blue States

Hard to grill a T-Bone just right. I prefer ribeyes. ;^)


20 posted on 05/29/2005 12:05:33 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (I don't hate anybody, except the French....)
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