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U.N.: Weapons Equipment Missing in Iraq
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/2/05 | Edith M. Lederer - AP

Posted on 06/02/2005 7:06:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

UNITED NATIONS - U.N. satellite imagery experts have determined that material that could be used to make biological or chemical weapons and banned long-range missiles has been removed from 109 sites in Iraq, U.N. weapons inspectors said in a report obtained Thursday.

U.N. inspectors have been blocked from returning to Iraq since the U.S.-led war in 2003 so they have been using satellite photos to see what happened to the sites that were subject to U.N. monitoring because their equipment had both civilian and military uses.

In the report to the U.N. Security Council, acting chief weapons inspector Demetrius Perricos said he's reached no conclusions about who removed the items or where they went. He said it could have been moved elsewhere in Iraq, sold as scrap, melted down or purchased.

He said the missing material can be used for legitimate purposes. "However, they can also be utilized for prohibited purposes if in a good state of repair."

He said imagery analysts have identified 109 sites that have been emptied of equipment to varying degrees, up from 90 reported in March.

The report also provided much more detail about the percentage of items no longer at the places where U.N. inspectors monitored them.

From the imagery analysis, Perricos said analysts at the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission which he heads have concluded that biological sites were less damaged than chemical and missile sites.

The commission, known as UNMOVIC, previously reported the discovery of some equipment and material from the sites in scrapyards in Jordan and the Dutch port of Rotterdam.

Perricos said analysts found, for example, that 53 of the 98 vessels that could be used for a wide range of chemical reactions had disappeared. "Due to its characteristics, this equipment can be used for the production of both commercial chemicals and chemical warfare agents," he said.

The report said 3,380 valves, 107 pumps, and more than 7.8 miles of pipes were known to have been located at the 39 chemical sites.

A third of the chemical items removed came from the Qaa Qaa industrial complex south of Baghdad which the report said "was among the sites possessing the highest number of dual-use production equipment," whose fate is now unknown." Significant quantities of missing material were also located at the Fallujah II and Fallujah III facilities north of the city, which was besieged last year.

Before the first Gulf War in 1991, those facilities played a major part in the production of precursors for Iraq's chemical warfare program.

The percentages of missing biological equipment from 12 sites were much smaller — no higher than 10 percent.

The report said 37 of 405 fermenters ranging in size from 2 gallons to 1,250 gallons had been removed. Those could be used to produce pharmaceuticals and vaccines as well as biological warfare agents such as anthrax.

The largest percentages of missing items were at the 58 missile facilities, which include some of the key production sites for both solid and liquid propellant missiles, the report said.

For example, 289 of the 340 pieces of equipment to produce missiles — about 85 percent — had been removed, it said.

At the Kadhimiyah and Al Samoud factory sites in suburban Baghdad, where the report said airframes and engines for liquid propellant missiles were manufactured and final assembly was carried out, "all equipment and missile components have been removed."

UNMOVIC is the outgrowth of a U.N. inspections process created after the 1991 Gulf War in which invading Iraqi forces were ousted from Kuwait. Its staff are considered the only multinational weapons experts specifically trained in biological weapons and missile disarmament.

The report noted that the commissioners who advise UNMOVIC again raised questions about its future. Iraq has called for its Security Council mandate to be terminated because UNMOVIC is funded from past Iraqi oil sales and it wants to be treated like other countries, but the council has not taken up the issue.

France's U.N. Ambassador Jean-Marc de La Sabliere said Thursday the commission's expertise "should not be lost for the international community."


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KEYWORDS: equipment; iraq; missing; unitednations; unmovic; weapons
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To: Strategerist

You're using logic, common sense and knowledge here. Be very careful.


21 posted on 06/02/2005 7:48:48 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Strategerist
"It's talking about various industrial facilities, machines, etc. that could theoretically be used to MAKE WMDs, or make things that could then be used to make WMDs."

*YAWN*

Ever read the ISG report? Wanna link?

ISG stated that the programs still existed at low levels and the duel use items facilitated a quick ramping up of these programs when Saddam deemed the time is right.

You can split hairs all you want. Been there and done that. Fact remains Saddam had in his possession items he was not supposed to have for programs he wasn't supposed to have that could be placed on missiles he wasn't supposed to have that could go beyond the ranges his missiles were not supposed to go. P.S. Some of these machines you refer to can not just be looted, stolen, or secreted away in the middle of the night. They are large heavy and cumbersome. To move one takes cranes, lifts, trucks, and knowledge of how to move them.
22 posted on 06/02/2005 7:50:27 PM PDT by baystaterebel (F/8 and be there!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well... with regard to some of the stuff that is no longer there, it is probably fair to say that we've had something to do with that as well.


23 posted on 06/02/2005 7:54:58 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Strategerist

Let's get us some of them long range missles to kill these school children helping the great satan.


24 posted on 06/02/2005 7:55:57 PM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: New Jersey Dir. of Homeland Security; must be willing performer, handsome.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe all the weapons stuff went missing from UN monitored sites but I bet Scott Ritter knows where every little girl in his neighborhood lives.


25 posted on 06/02/2005 8:01:18 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Fun Fact: Did you know that NEWSWEEK has killed more people than Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile?)
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To: Itzlzha

Good post, right on the mark. Double standards all the way around for anyone anti-American.


26 posted on 06/02/2005 8:05:57 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: NormsRevenge
What a pile of steaming crap! While the U.N. was there, Saddam ferreted this sort of stuff around under their noses and they never saw it. Now that we're in control over there, the U.N. has come to the conclusion that it's missing?

r-i-g-h-t.
27 posted on 06/02/2005 8:21:04 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Help me out here ...

Is this article saying that the U.N. is using somebody's satellites (assume European) to spy on us in Iraq since we won't let them in anymore?
28 posted on 06/02/2005 8:22:43 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"have been blocked from returning to Iraq"

Bullfeathers. They got bombed once, and ran for the tall grass.

29 posted on 06/02/2005 8:25:03 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: tobyhill
What's with all this "duel" use exceptions?

It's the ESCAPE CLAUSE for any condemnation or action ever being taken against IRAQ or any other country that has produced WMD and vows the annihilation of Western Civilisation.

Further proof the UN is USELESS!!

30 posted on 06/02/2005 8:27:43 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Ramius
it is probably fair to say that we've had something to do with that as well.

Some improverished countries can't build telco infrastructures because the copper wire is always being stolen, both before and after it's laid.

In Iraq, one would think anthrax cauldrons and other junk present the same commercial appeal to scrap hustlers.

And yes, some of it probably disappeared with a great BOOM, courtesy of the U.S. military.

31 posted on 06/02/2005 8:35:12 PM PDT by angkor
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To: NormsRevenge

We are talking about, "The report said 3,380 valves, 107 pumps, and more than 7.8 miles of pipes were known to have been located at the 39 chemical sites."

-pumps, valves and pipe. Gimme a break.


32 posted on 06/02/2005 9:18:57 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: NormsRevenge

bookmark


33 posted on 06/02/2005 9:42:46 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: baystaterebel
A good friend tells me that his unit discovered many bunkers with hidden barrels of organophosphate pesticides(NOT LAYING AROUND ON THE FARM), along with binary rockets and mortar shells. GA, GB,VX and sarin are all organophosphate nerve weapons. I'm not a chemist but could these organophosphate pesticides be used as or turned into chemical weapons even if not as deadly as the name brands? If not, saddam sure went to great lengths to make us believe he had chemical weapons and guess what? We took him at his word.

I still believe that much went to syria, the bekka and iran.

34 posted on 06/02/2005 9:59:02 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: baystaterebel

Oh yeah! Remember al-Qaa Qaa? That was the site that was supposedly looted of hundreds of tons of high explosive, according to jfkerry, just before the election. Turns out the un was monitoring it but couldn't tell us when they saw it last. More of the same I guess. Doesn't matter if you could mix those chemicals to produce a nerve weapon. As long as they were labelled as pesticide, then that's what they were.


35 posted on 06/02/2005 11:09:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What ..????

There isn't any WMD in Iraq .. that's what the media said ..?? and they had to be telling the truth didn't they ..??????


36 posted on 06/02/2005 11:10:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: baystaterebel; Strategerist
He said it could have been moved elsewhere in Iraq, sold as scrap, melted down or purchased.
He said the missing material can be used for legitimate purposes. "However, they can also be utilized for prohibited purposes if in a good state of repair."
He said imagery analysts have identified 109 sites that have been emptied of equipment to varying degrees, up from 90 reported in March.


What is really interesting in the last line "up from 90"?
....what is he getting at?
Why aren't these sites being guarded?

We need more boots on the ground to wipe out these b@stards!

%~#*&%#*!!!!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 06/02/2005 11:34:26 PM PDT by Charles Wickman (Cheney in '08!)
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To: Itzlzha
Just who was lying?!?!

Damn good point.

38 posted on 06/02/2005 11:36:13 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I'm not very dignified." - Howard Dean)
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To: NormsRevenge
In the report to the U.N. Security Council, acting chief weapons inspector Demetrius Perricos said he's reached no conclusions about who removed the items or where they went. He said it could have been moved elsewhere in Iraq, sold as scrap, melted down or purchased.

How about the possibility of wmd's being transported to Syria during the buildup to gulf war II?
39 posted on 06/02/2005 11:40:40 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Strategerist

I see what you are getting at. What I am leery about is that no where in this article does it say when the UN received the satellite images or from whom. Why haven’t the images been given to our military to examine. From what I see is that they had stuff that could produce WMD at the flip of a switch. They also had banned long-range missiles that they were not supposed to have. Why wasn’t this disclosed before? It sounds like someone is trying to set W up before Bolton gets in.


40 posted on 06/03/2005 3:03:19 AM PDT by repubpub
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