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'Gay Days'? The reality of gender-disorientation pathology - (strong arguments!)
TOWNHALL.COM ^ | JUNE 3, 2005 | MARK ALEXANDER

Posted on 06/04/2005 9:43:30 AM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: Charles Wickman
Let me expand that thought...slavery was considered so essential to a society that it was considered a necessity.

Hmmm...I'm going to have to ponder on that nonsense for awhile.

Trying to figure out how this ties in here.

161 posted on 06/04/2005 8:41:16 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

You better re-read my posts,don't ever attribute statements or beliefs to people that aren't true.That my friend is utter ignorance on your part.I happen to think a lot of things are inherited,including your sub-normal IQ:)


162 posted on 06/04/2005 8:44:36 PM PDT by thombo
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To: I got the rope
Trying to figure out how this ties in here.
I was asked to come up with facts, studies, and evidence that our society won't collapse after gay marriage is legalized.
wait
I got one example.
How about Massachusetts? Hasn't collapsed....yet
163 posted on 06/04/2005 8:45:13 PM PDT by Charles Wickman (Cheney in '08!)
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To: Treader
Perhaps your nom de plume- "Wickman" is an insight to a con artist.

Or left wing columnist DeWayne Wickman maybe?. The leftists just cannot keep away from FR... it does mean they fear FReepers, doesn't it...

164 posted on 06/04/2005 8:45:14 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Keep trying guys, it's my name.
Sir Francis Dashwood indeed!
165 posted on 06/04/2005 8:47:09 PM PDT by Charles Wickman (Cheney in '08!)
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To: Charles Wickman
Let me get this straight (no pun intended) I'm the distorted one!...hmmm

I don't know about that, but it WOULD appear that you're rather comfortable with the [cough cough] minority "position."

166 posted on 06/04/2005 8:47:37 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack
I'd still like to know how you're going to show us the "1,000 leather hustlers or bath-house frequenters or papa bears or twinks"

Iron Jack indeed!

sounds like a very macho name


167 posted on 06/04/2005 8:52:40 PM PDT by Charles Wickman (Cheney in '08!)
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To: thombo

I included you because you were part of the discussion. Nothing more. I'm trying to keep Wickman on track here. He said homosexual marriage was OK, but in his discussion with you he admitted that there is an inherited connection.

BTW...IQ is not inherited...nor is it scientific.

Reification is for psuedo-scientists. I'm the real thing.


168 posted on 06/04/2005 8:54:16 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Charles Wickman

Massachusetts collapsed a long time ago. Of course you haven't noticed.


169 posted on 06/04/2005 8:55:55 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Liberals are pathological liars. They admire liars, they regale in lies, they spread lies.)
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To: GregoryFul
Massachusetts collapsed a long time ago. Of course you haven't noticed.
Then the question is, how long ago did it collapse?
170 posted on 06/04/2005 8:57:36 PM PDT by Charles Wickman (Cheney in '08!)
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To: Charles Wickman

Wickman, once again- name one civilization that survived the full cultural acceptance of homosexuality. You have the whole range of recorded world history to choose from, mister. Just one example.


171 posted on 06/04/2005 8:59:23 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: Charles Wickman

I think he was asking you about full cultural acceptance in any society in history. It has never happened. Not even in Massachusetts. The courts legalized gay marriage. Not the people.


172 posted on 06/04/2005 8:59:41 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Charles Wickman

Last year. It ranks 50th in population growth. As a matter of fact the population growth is now negative.

LOL.


173 posted on 06/04/2005 9:02:08 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Charles Wickman

Well, my father left in 1963, calling it Taxachusetts. It has been reviled by many for some time, as the den of corrupt political hacks.


174 posted on 06/04/2005 9:04:27 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Liberals are pathological liars. They admire liars, they regale in lies, they spread lies.)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
In a Washington March for Gay Pride, they chanted, 'We're here. We're queer. And we're coming after your children.' What more do we need to know?" --Charles Socarides, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry, Albert Einstein College of Medicine

Bump!

175 posted on 06/04/2005 9:08:59 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mikolaj Rej: "A niechaj narodowie wzdy postronni znaja, Iz Polacy nie gesi, iz swoj jezyk maja.")
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To: I got the rope

IQ is inherited.Environment plays a part(in intelligence)as well."It's not scientific".Do you mean it can't be measured?Wrong again.No IQ test is perfect,but testing can provide meaningful measurement.Your reference to homosexuality,could it be an "inherited connection"?I belive it is possible.What's wrong with that?Do you believe it's possible?


176 posted on 06/04/2005 9:12:01 PM PDT by thombo
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To: infocats
Being heterosexual is the NATURAL order of things. It's the way about 97% of human beings just ARE. There is no choice involved, it is instinctual.

Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. There may be a predilection toward someone of the same sex, but that can be overcome...much as the alcoholic has a predilection toward alcohol. Society certainly doesn't embrace and encourage that harmful behavior, and neither should it embrace and encourage homosexuality.

177 posted on 06/04/2005 9:15:02 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Charles Wickman
Except the right to marry someone they love. Which is the only thing I propose to change...

MJ and NAMBLA members "love" under aged little boys, suppose they should get to marry the ones they "love" as well? Or the persons that "loves" their pet? ETC--- The child or pet could consent therefore making it a consentual agreement.

On the question of choice, it must be noted that all sex but rape* (*on behalf of the rape victim) is voluntary and thus every sexual act involves a conscious choice. A person's inclination toward a form of sexual conduct may not, for any number of reasons, be consciously chosen, but the mere existence of desire does not justify the act. To accept otherwise would be to validate adultery and pedophilia. Society has the right to require people to suppress harmful desires, even if it is difficult for them to do so.

178 posted on 06/04/2005 9:17:37 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: CHARLITE

It is a squeeky wheel.

Additionally I think part of the pathology of of the sexual fetish is public exhibition of their method of acheiving orgasm. They seem to achieve an almost sexual satisfaction from parading the methods and facts of how they achieve orgams to the offense of the public. In fact the more offensive they are, the more sexually satisfied they seem to proclaim.


179 posted on 06/04/2005 9:23:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: I got the rope

Actually, Igtr, it has happened- several times and has always resulted in the sudden death of that civilization. This is one reason, why Wickman, will not address the effin' question. The socialist-fascists in Our Nation & the World know that social collapse is well on the heels of full hedonist values acceptance. It is always better to collapse an enemy from within his castle, than by onslaught of outer sword. Kruschev's "We Will Bury You" speech was directly intoned for threatening that specfic purpose. The Gay agenda has been stylized directly for this socialist goal of sublimation.


180 posted on 06/04/2005 9:27:22 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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