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Low-glycemic may be better than low-fat diet
Reuters ^ | Jun 6, 2:46 PM ET | Alison McCook

Posted on 06/07/2005 7:22:51 AM PDT by Nov3

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Foods with a low-glycemic index, which are digested relatively slowly and cause smaller increases in blood sugar, may protect the heart and blood vessels better than low-fat fare, according to the findings of a small study.

Researchers in Boston found that when obese people consumed as many carbohydrates with a low-glycemic index as they wanted, they lost just as much weight in 12 months as people who stuck with a conventional, calorie-restricted low-fat diet.

Carbohydrates with a low-glycemic index include foods such as nonstarchy vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts and diary products, according to the report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

Dieters who watched their glycemic indices also experienced a larger decrease in fatty substances in the blood linked to heart disease and had a drop in levels of a protein that interferes with the body's ability to break down blood clots. In contrast, low-fat dieters had an increase in levels of the same protein, which may put them at higher risk of heart attack.

"Reducing (glycemic index) may be more effective than cutting back on fat over the long-term, both for weight loss and also for reducing risk of heart disease," study author Dr. David S. Ludwig told Reuters Health.

"Based on our results, and several dozen other clinical trials and epidemiological studies, I would recommend" eating foods with a low-glycemic index, added Ludwig, who is based at Children's Hospital.

The glycemic index measures how efficiently the body can metabolize carbohydrates. It ranks carbohydrates by how much a person's blood sugar rises immediately after eating, and tends to favor high-fiber foods that take longer to digest.

Ludwig and his team asked 23 obese young adults to follow either a low-fat diet or a diet in which they ate low-glycemic index foods for one year. As part of the low-glycemic index diet, people could eat as much as they wanted of foods with a low index, and got roughly 45 to 50 percent of calories from carbohydrates, and 30 to 35 percent from fat.

Low-fat dieters cut their daily intake by 250 to 500 calories, limited fat to less than 30 percent of their total calories, and got between 55 and 60 percent of calories from carbohydrates.

Ludwig noted that even though low-glycemic index dieters had no calorie limits, they likely didn't overeat because they felt less hunger after eating foods that take longer to digest.

"Numerous previous studies by our group and by others have shown that individuals feel less hunger and greater (sense of fullness) after low-glycemic index compared to high-glycemic index meals," he added.

SOURCE: American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, May 2005.


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They just can't say low carb. They have to call it low glycemic when in fact if you look at the food list it is basically Atkins/Protein Power/South Beach.
1 posted on 06/07/2005 7:22:51 AM PDT by Nov3
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To: Nov3
This is funny... the article presents this as new information, when it's been around for at least 35 years.
2 posted on 06/07/2005 7:24:47 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Nov3
Carbohydrates with a low-glycemic index include foods such as nonstarchy vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts and diary products, according to the report in...

Imagine that!.............Who'da thunk it?........

3 posted on 06/07/2005 7:26:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (It's not up to the gov't to give you and education. It's up to you to take it from them......)
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To: Nov3

> They just can't say low carb.

Or "balance" or "zone".

40-30-30 (percent of calories from carb/prot/fat),
plus low-gly carbs, is beginning to look ideal.


4 posted on 06/07/2005 7:26:56 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: Nov3

The Atkins diet book also refers to low glycemic as apposed to low carbs. Just eating "low carb" will rob you of needed vitamins and minerals.


5 posted on 06/07/2005 7:29:13 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Nov3

Interesting title, but... it's Reuters.

I wouldn't believe them if they reported that I was a man.

Dan


6 posted on 06/07/2005 7:32:53 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Nov3

No, they can't say low carb. Neither could I two years ago. Then I lost 40 pounds in 40 weeks, and kept it off for a year and counting. BMI went from 30 to under 24, plus my "good" cholesterol improved. Don't feel hungry and weigh what I did in high school. I would have just laughed two years ago. Now, I am laughing with them not at them.

Consider though what a scam carbs are. Pasta, bread, pastries, rice, cereals all cost pennies to produce, are marked up 1000% (no kidding) . I can see why the food industry (not the diet industry alone) are not keen to give a nod to Atkins et al.

The best part is you learn to eat less refined/processed foods, that seems to be the key.

I pay more for groceries, sure, but I'd rather pay with cash than with my health.


7 posted on 06/07/2005 7:33:02 AM PDT by timsbella
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To: Nov3

Some of us end up needing a low fat AND low glycemic diet...which is probably closer to the South Beach diet, although I find they are a little higher in carbs than my metabolism likes some days...


8 posted on 06/07/2005 7:37:09 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Nov3

ping for later study


9 posted on 06/07/2005 7:37:34 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: BibChr
I wouldn't believe them if they reported that I was a man.

Was?

;-)

10 posted on 06/07/2005 7:39:20 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: avg_freeper
Just eating "low carb" will rob you of needed vitamins and minerals.

The New Atkins Book refers to low glycemic. His older ones didn't. He also embraces the ECC (Effective Carbohydrate Count) concept. Still when you actually put a name on the concept of their diet it is "low-carb". The diet lowers your insulin response. The next step for them is to say that early in weight loss it migh be a good idea to lower carbs to 25-50 grams.

You know 4-5 years from now they will discover that dietary ketosis will not kill you and that it has beneficial effects.

11 posted on 06/07/2005 7:43:33 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: savedbygrace

D'oh!

"Were"?

/c8


12 posted on 06/07/2005 7:45:29 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Nov3
They just can't say low carb

They just can't say "steak" or "bacon" either.

13 posted on 06/07/2005 7:47:20 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez wasn't cool.)
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To: Nov3

Having low carbed for about 8 years now, I am sure ketosis will not kill you (or I would be dead!) Gosh, I was low carb when low carb wasn't cool! And....my ratios are so good that my doctor about had a heart attack when he saw the numbers!
:)
susie


14 posted on 06/07/2005 7:47:45 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: timsbella

I lost 55 lbs on Atkins two years ago and have kept it off. My triglycerides dropped from 234 to 70, My HDL went up, with total cholesteral at 176. C-reactive protein also went down, so that my risk of heart disease dropped from 5x the normal risk to less than average risk. Also, my sleep-apnea disappeared.

I agree, the Atkins book talks about using low-glycomic carbs intead of high-glycemic. I don't think this article says anything radically different than what Atkins says.


15 posted on 06/07/2005 7:48:07 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: Nov3
They just can't say low carb.

Because it's not low carb. You can have as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low. This includes whole-grain breads, beans, and lots of other goodies. The premise is you don't restrict your fats or your carbs, but rather you choose good fats and good carbs.

16 posted on 06/07/2005 7:49:39 AM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: Nov3

And of course, on a low-fat diet, your body is producing its own cholesterol because you're not eating enough dietary fat -- unfortunately, your body produces LDL ("bad" cholesterol) when it has to synthesize its own.


17 posted on 06/07/2005 7:49:41 AM PDT by kevkrom (Jack Bauer / Chloe O'Brien '08)
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To: brytlea

I was posting Atkins articles here in 98-99 when Atkins would KILL YOU! I got flamed to death.


18 posted on 06/07/2005 7:49:42 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: guinnessman

I've lost 160 pounds on Atkins, and am holding steady (mostly through being pretty lax lately) before making a run at the last 50-100 I want to drop.


19 posted on 06/07/2005 7:50:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (Jack Bauer / Chloe O'Brien '08)
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To: Red Badger

Can you say fresh vegtables and fruits (absolutely no juice.)


20 posted on 06/07/2005 7:51:38 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: BibChr
I don't know about that; My line was a sex-change joke.

(If you have to explain the joke . . .)

21 posted on 06/07/2005 7:52:38 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: alnick
as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low.

If you will thoroughly research the matter you will find that these diets are "low-carb". They are high fiber (which they include in the carb count) and fiber is not digestable. The carbs they allow also are slower to digest which blunts the insulin response. It is the exact mechanism that the demonized low-carb people promote for the maintenence portion of their "unhealthy" diets.

This represents a crack in the calorie is a calorie BS

22 posted on 06/07/2005 7:56:30 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: kevkrom

That's great news! Good luck on the home stretch.

I've gotten pretty lax lately too, especially when it comes to exercise. If I just had the willpower to start exercising again, I could lose that last ten pounds and be at my ideal weight.

I just need somebody to pester me in about two months to help my motivation:)


23 posted on 06/07/2005 7:59:21 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: guinnessman

It was easier before the baby came along... Mrs. kevkrom is pretty much off the diet until she's done nursing, and it makes it much harder to go it alone, especially when I'm doing 90+% of the cooking and working full-time. (Not to mention all of the stress, sympathy and otherwise.) But, I've started going back to the pool to swim laps, and I just need to get back on a good eating track...


24 posted on 06/07/2005 8:02:45 AM PDT by kevkrom (Jack Bauer / Chloe O'Brien '08)
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To: All

I tried Atkins, and lost, but it was really hard to stay on it because it required lots more time for food preparation than I had.

I think everyone is different, but I still agree with the concept of low-glycemic. I just can't get away with eating too many carbs that aren't fruit or vegetables. I can't even eat that much of whole grains, like oats.

I also now know that I can't experience weight loss without decent, consistent exercise at my age. It just isn't going to happen through my diet alone.

Here is what I have been doing for the last 4 months:

Three or four days on non-starchy carbs, protein, and good fats/oils. On the fourth or fifth day, I carb up a little more and add some grains or whole grain bread. Then back to the low-glycemic for another three or four days.

I take green tea extract and drink green tea for it's fat-burning benefits.

I do 45-50 minutes of aerobic activity 3-4 times per week. I do pilates 4-5 times per week. The key is that I found things that I like to do, and I have some variety. Aerobics can be an exercise tape, a walk, or 45 minutes on my elliptical while watching a movie! My husband has set up a place for me in the garage with the TV mounted!

Since the end of February, I have lost 1.5 inches from my hips and 1 inch from my waist. It's coming off effortlessly now, and I don't really deny myself food. Also, with this approach, I can still sip a little red wine in the evening.


25 posted on 06/07/2005 8:06:22 AM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: savedbygrace

No no, I got the joke; I just wondered if it was my choice of tense/mood that left me open for it!

This is FR, after all. You've got to dot every t, and cross every i!

Dan
(c8


26 posted on 06/07/2005 8:09:24 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

No, my twisted sense of humor would've made a beeline for it anyway. I grew up during the Steve Allen days of TV. ("Show me a man who'll whip a prune and I'll show you someone who'd beat an egg.")


27 posted on 06/07/2005 8:14:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Lil'freeper

ping


28 posted on 06/07/2005 8:15:47 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: alnick
You can have as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low. This includes whole-grain breads, beans, and lots of other goodies

Er, no. Bread has just about the same glycemic index whether it's wholegrain or not. Wholegrain bread has more vitamins, to be sure, but it still tweaks the insulin response and causes weight gain in susceptible people.

29 posted on 06/07/2005 8:20:12 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: alnick

"Because it's not low carb. You can have as many carbs as you want on a low-glycemic index diet, so long as the glycemic index is low. This includes whole-grain breads, beans, and lots of other goodies."

No low carb cookie for you! Did ya read the article?

It says -

> Carbohydrates with a low-glycemic index include foods such as nonstarchy vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts and diary products, according to the report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. <

NON STARCHY. Whole grain bread are not included in this study. They have a lower glycemic index than table sugar, but not low enough. If the dieters had restricted the use of legumes and limited fruit consumption, they would have done even better.


30 posted on 06/07/2005 8:22:53 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Nov3
Foods with a low-glycemic index, which are digested relatively slowly and cause smaller increases in blood sugar, may protect the heart and blood vessels better than low-fat fare.

No S#!t Sherlock...Where'd you park the Squad Car?

Leave it to the media to come to the truth when they find a euphemism that doesnt say how flat out wrong they have been....

31 posted on 06/07/2005 8:23:20 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Nov3

Low fat doesn't work, especially if you don't watch how much "low fat" sugar you cram in your mouth.


32 posted on 06/07/2005 8:25:43 AM PDT by Darnright ( Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before)
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To: timsbella
"The best part is you learn to eat less refined/processed foods, that seems to be the key."

I don't understand why the foods that are less processed/refined cost more. Wouldn't you think that less work would go into producing them?

Carolyn

33 posted on 06/07/2005 8:28:22 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: BibChr

Your Freudian slip is showing...


34 posted on 06/07/2005 8:28:36 AM PDT by null and void (I'll take earthquakes for a thousand, Alex...)
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To: Nov3

South Beach spends a lot of time talking about glycemic levels. I never paid it much attention until the past year when my hypglycemia started getting really bad. No I pay attention to glycemic levels. My diet is basically the South Beach diet, except that I need a bit more fat in my diet than SoBe calls for to prevent low blood sugar attacks.


35 posted on 06/07/2005 8:31:15 AM PDT by elc
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To: Nov3

Yeah, everyone thought I was going to die when I went on that horrible diet! But, I had put my parents on it in the early 70s and they both lost weight and felt great. So, I knew it worked and was safe.
susie


36 posted on 06/07/2005 8:35:15 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: CDHart
I don't understand why the foods that are less processed/refined cost more. Wouldn't you think that less work would go into producing them?

Two big reasons, in no particular order:

  1. Preservatives and economies of scale -- large amounts can be produced because they will keep for long periods of time wihtout special handling; fresh foods require special storgae conditions and even then have limited shelf lives
  2. Cheap fillers -- not only are sugar- and grain-based products much cheaper (high yields, etc.) than other agricultural products, but many foods are cut with very cheap fillers like corn syrup and corn starch, which are extremely high on the glycemic index

37 posted on 06/07/2005 8:35:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (Jack Bauer / Chloe O'Brien '08)
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To: kevkrom
Thanks -- that makes sense. I've gotten to where I won't buy anything that has high fructose corn syrup in it or partially hydrogenated oils/fats.

Carolyn

38 posted on 06/07/2005 8:41:56 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: Rytwyng
Actually, whole grain bread is low on the glycemic index scale. Look it up. You may be thinking of whole wheat bread, which is different than whole grain bread.

Basmati rice and white parboiled rice is allowed on the low glycemic diet, as is pasta and tortillas, and oatmeal is particularly good.

The low glycemic index diet doesn't restrict all carbs. It restricts carbs that cause a rapid rise in blood glucose. That excludes a lot of carbs, including a good whole-grain bread.

It also doesn't allow a free for all with fats. Olive oil and other non saturated fats are allowed, even encouraged. Bacon, butter, heavy cream -- all examples of what a lot of low carbers include in their diets -- are avoided in a low glycemic index diet.

Here's a good summary that I found with a Google search: http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/carbs/8/

The glycemic index of food is a ranking of foods based on their immediate effect on blood glucose (blood sugar) levels. Carbohydrate foods that breakdown quickly during digestion have the highest glycemic indexes. Their blood sugar response is fast and high. Carbohydrates that breakdown slowly, releasing glucose gradually into the blood stream, have low glycemic indexes.

What is the significance of Glycemic Index?

* Low GI means a smaller rise in blood sugar and can help control established diabetes *

Low GI diets can help people lose weight and lower blood lipids *

Low GI diets can improve the body's sensitivity to insulin *

High GI foods can help re-fuel carbohydrate stores after exercise

How to switch to a low GI diet *

Breakfast cereals based on wheat bran, barley and oats *

"Grainy" breads made with whole seeds

* Pasta and rice in place of potatoes *

Vinegar and lemon juice dressings

In short, the goal should be to build a good plan including the low Glycemic Index foods. This way, hunger is minimized, and there is less tendency to "cheat" or overeat. Consequently, you can continue to lose body fat or maintain your weight - once the excess pounds have been lost. The GI of foods has important implications for the food industry. Terms such as complex carbohydrates and sugars, which commonly appear on food labels, are now recognised as having little nutritional or physiological significance. The WHO/FAO recommend that these terms be removed and replaced with the total carbohydrate content of the food and its GI value. However, the GI rating of a food must be tested physiologically and only a few nutrition research groups around the world currently provide a legitimate testing service. The Human Nutrition Unit at the University of Sydney has been at the forefront of glycemic index research for over a decade and has tested dozens of foods as an integral part of its program. Jennie Brand Miller (JBM) is the senior author of International Tables of Glycemic Index published by the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition in 1995.

Desirable Foods

Breads: Coarse European -Style, Whole Grain wheat or Rye Pita Bread, Cracked or Sprouted Whole wheat

Cereals: Compact noodle-like high bran cereals (All-Bran, Fiber One) Coarse Oatmeal, Porridge, Coarse Whole Grain (Kashi) Cereal mixed with Psyllium (Fiberwise)

Pasta, Grains and Starchy Vegetables: Pasta (all types) Barley, Bulgur, Buckwheat (kasha) Couscous, Kidney Beans dry, (Lentils, Black-eyed peas, Chick-peas Kidney beans, Lima beans, Peas, Sweet Potato, Yam (soybeans lowest) Most Vegetables.

Milk Products: Skim, 1%, cottage cheese, (lowfat or regular), Buttermilk, Low-fat plain yogurt, Low-fat fruited yogurt, Low-fat frozen yogurt ( artificial sweetener)

Fruit: Most fruit and natural fruit juices, including apple, berries, cantaloupe, grapefruit, honeydew, oranges, pears, grapes, peaches, applesauce, (Cherries, plums and grapefruit lowest).

Meats: Shellfish, "white" fish (cod, flounder, trout, tuna in water), Chicken, turkey, cornish hen, venison (white meat no skin), Egg substitutes (cholesterol free) cottage cheese

Moderately Desirable

Breads: 100% Stone Ground whole Wheat, Pumpernickel, 100% whole grain Rye Crisp Cracker

Cereals: Grape-nut cereal, medium-fine grain oatmeal, (5-minute variety)

Pasta, Grains and Starchy Vegetables: Rice, Boiled Potato, Corn Navy beans, Kidney beans (canned), Baked beans. Beets.

Milk Products: 2% milk, cheese, Regular plain yogurt

Fruit: Banana, Kiwi, Mango, papaya, orange juice.

Meats: Higher fat fish, (salmon, herring, lean cuts of Beef, Pork, Veal. Low-fat imitation luncheon meat, low-fat. cheese, Eggs.

Less Desirable Foods

Breads:

Breads: White bread, most commercial whole wheat breads, English muffins, bagel, French bread, most commercial matzoh

Cereals: Corn flakes, puffed rice, puffed wheat, flaked cereals, instant "Quick" or pre-cooked cereals. Oatbran, rolled oats. Shredded wheat, Muesli.'

Pasta, Grains and Starchy Vegetables: Instant rice, Brown rice, instant precooked grains, Baked potato, micro-waved potato, instant potato, Winter squash (acorn, butternut), carrots, parsnips.

Milk Products: Whole milk, ice milk, ice cream, Yogurt sweetened with sugar, Low-fat frozen desserts with sugar added, Low-fat and regular frozen yogurt with sugar added. Tofu ice cream.

Fruit: Pineapple, raisins, watermelon, fruit juices sweetened with sugar.

Meats: Most cuts of beef, pork, lamb, hot dogs (including "low-fat' versions) cheese, luncheon meats, peanut butter.

39 posted on 06/07/2005 8:42:29 AM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: guinnessman

Congratulations on your weight loss, that's impressive!


40 posted on 06/07/2005 8:43:33 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: adam_az

Look up glycemic index on google and read about whole grain breads in relation to glycemic index. They're not only allowed; they're encouraged.


41 posted on 06/07/2005 8:45:23 AM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: CDHart

I'm only half-joking when I say that corn syrup should be banned for anything not specifically marketed as "candy" (or other "sweets"). That stuff is pretty much pure poison.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 8:45:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (Jack Bauer / Chloe O'Brien '08)
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To: Nov3; All
Carbohydrates with a low-glycemic index include foods such as nonstarchy vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts and diary products, according to the report in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

I understand some wines (at moderation...one glass at a time) are lower in the glycemic value.

But does anyone know of a beer that is "lower-glycemic?"

Are there some better than others? (i.e. Porter, Heffe, Ale, Stout....vs. "Michelob Ultra")

Or is it just wishful thinking?

Mmmmmmmmm.....

43 posted on 06/07/2005 8:48:05 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." .........Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Madeleine Ward

Bravo on pilates. I do 15 minutes each morning and walk for half an hour a day. At 38 I am in my best shape ever, effortlessly it seems.

Pilates. They used to be called callestenics until Mari Windsor came along. Even swimming has been replaced by "aquatic recreation" ;)


44 posted on 06/07/2005 8:49:54 AM PDT by timsbella
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To: kevkrom
"That stuff is pretty much pure poison."

I absolutely agree. In fact, I think we will find that the increased incidences of obesity and diabetes can be traced back to it.

Carolyn

45 posted on 06/07/2005 8:52:43 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: CDHart

Correct. It's counter-intuitive.

Consider -
Fresh fruit and veggies cost more than canned or frozen. (Most are preserved in solutions with salts & sugars)

Buying your own ground beef costs more than frozen burgers with carb additives.

Roasting your own chicken on the BBQ costs more than a prepackaged bird at the market's "hot table".

And DYI takes a lot more time as can be noted from other posts here.

Grocers have a vested interest in you being addicted (for lack of a better word) to sugars and deprived of fats - it increases their bottom line while increasing your waist line.

Ouch.


46 posted on 06/07/2005 8:57:55 AM PDT by timsbella (Screw PETA, I'll take mine rare ;))
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To: kstewskis

Oh baby. I never gave up red wine (dry, not sweet)

White and blush are fine too.

All clear alcohol - Vodka, Rye, Whisky, Bourbon -- all are fine. Beware the mixers. Anything "Crystal Light" goes with Vodka. Scotch, Rye and Whisky all work with club soda. Use diet coke as an alternate to full strength.

And Beer - yes, all light beer ranges around 12 carbs a bottle. Go for it. Most people have a limit of 50 carbs a day - take a fifth and live a litte.


47 posted on 06/07/2005 9:01:39 AM PDT by timsbella (Screw PETA, I'll take mine rare ;))
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To: alnick

"Look up glycemic index on google and read about whole grain breads in relation to glycemic index. They're not only allowed; they're encouraged."

Not for ketogenic diets. :)

Limiting your consumption of this stuff will def. help weight loss!


48 posted on 06/07/2005 9:01:58 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: timsbella
Makes sense -- as I posted earlier, I've gotten to where I won't buy anything that has high fructose corn syrup or partially hydrogenated oils/fat in it.

Carolyn

49 posted on 06/07/2005 9:02:21 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: adam_az

My original point was that the low glycemic diet is not the same at low carb diets.

You're right. Those things are not allowed on a low carb diet, which is why I prefer the low-glycemic index diet.


50 posted on 06/07/2005 9:04:37 AM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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