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Kerry's Slow 180 Turn; He raises as many questions as he answers!
Slate ^ | 6/9/05 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 06/09/2005 11:21:42 PM PDT by ambrose

Wade's Wish: Boston Globe Managing Editor Mary Jane Wilkinson, explaining why her paper is not going to make public the Kerry military records it has received:

It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180.

Wilkinson's understanding would be wrong, according to the New York Sun's Josh Gerstein, to whom Kerry denied the records.

A Navy spokesman, Lieutenant Commander Daniel Hernandez, said the waiver applied only to the Boston Globe and did not authorize release of Mr. Kerry's records to the public.

"Kerry controls the release of his records," Commander Hernandez said yesterday. "You have to talk to his office."

The senator also agreed to allow the Los Angeles Times to see his full record, Mr. Wade said yesterday. The spokesman did not respond to a question about why Mr. Kerry did not execute a broader release to all press organizations and the public. Asked whether the senator would permit release of the records to The New York Sun, Mr. Wade said, "The issue is over."

Not while Gerstein and Lipscomb are alive! ... Why would Kerry not just make a clean release to everyone? I suppose he might not want his enemies poring over the documents for discrepancies they can use to keep the story alive. But that consideration would seem to be outweighed by the suspicions the limited release creates. ... At the very least, as Lipscomb notes, Kerry should make public the Form 180 that fails to make public his records.  ... P.S.: Like Wade, I would like this to be over! (I would like Kerry to be over.) But it still smells a bit funny. A lot of clever thinking seems to have gone into that Form 180 signing.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: form180; kaus; kerry; militaryrecord
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To: ambrose
This "release" of Traitor John's "records" is a fairly lame attempt to dispel the questions regarding his self-proclaimed "War Hero" status. He released nothing that puts the questions about his alleged heroism and the nature of his discharge to rest.

All he did was to raise more questions. Come on, Hanoi John Kerry, what are you hiding? I think we all know anyway so why not get it all out in the open?

Oops I almost forgot, you're a dedicated leftist, so full disclosure is not in your vocabulary.
21 posted on 06/10/2005 3:24:19 AM PDT by MisterRepublican ("I am not at all comfortable going to Andy for confirmation of anything."-William Rivers Pitt)
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To: ambrose

ker-ry (ker' i) vi. kerried, kerrying 1 to change one's position for political advantage 2 to pander to special interest groups 3 to slander one's opponents 4 to boast of fraudulent heroism in combat 5 to bear false witness against one's comrades 6 to give aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war n. kerry 1 indecisiveness 2 demagoguery 3 treason


22 posted on 06/10/2005 3:42:07 AM PDT by MikeNJ (Lest we forget...)
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To: AGreatPer
This is getting old already

Ah, but now there's the angle about the papers. What did these journos know and when did they know it?

And why did they spike it?

This could make what Newsweek did look like a tempest in a teacup...

23 posted on 06/10/2005 3:46:50 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

Paging their parent company's shareholders....


24 posted on 06/10/2005 3:47:40 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

What's truly amazing is that Kerry and the MSM actually think they can get away with this. Shows you they learned nothing from Rathergate..They don't understand how their world has changed..


25 posted on 06/10/2005 4:08:54 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
The MSM's shareholders better figure that out as well. Boy, if people ever find out just what the Globe, among others, have been sitting on....Their parent companys' stocks won't be worth a plugged nickel.
26 posted on 06/10/2005 4:13:43 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: All

i am sure if we were to look at his records we would find out he was dishonorably discharged.


27 posted on 06/10/2005 4:21:40 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: martin_fierro

Kerry does a 180 on his 180.


28 posted on 06/10/2005 4:54:35 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Sounds of laughter, shades of life are ringing through my open ears exciting and inviting me)
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To: ambrose

frenchie, living in the past, still thinks the ratmedia runs the new cycle in this country. He still believes he can open his mouth, have essentially nothing come out, and have the ratmedia clean it up. Remember when clinocchio used to claim he got "news" about him in the newspapers? He wasn't lying for a change. What he was really saying was "I don't know what lies they cooked up FOR me, I'll have to check." Foolish frenchie!:it's over and you and the ratmedia lost.


29 posted on 06/10/2005 5:06:02 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: AGreatPer

"This is getting old already. Who cares? Kerry is gone, never to return. He made such an ass of himself in the last election the Dems would never put him up again. Just like Gore, he is done.

People care. I care. We almost had a President who could very well have been a Manchurian candidate. If you want to be a public figure you have to give everything asked of you.

Hiding his 180, Terayzahhs financials and who knows what else is a direct affront to the American people. Especially since it was these people that tried to bury a sitting President based on false documents and a missed dental appointment 29 years ago.


30 posted on 06/10/2005 5:26:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: AGreatPer

Fenris6

I agree with you. Many say Hillary is too left or too polarizing to go anywhere in 08. But unlike the vast majority of the visible Dems (Dean, Moore, Striesand, Boxer...) who are just raving lunatics, you have to give Hillary credit for being smart. She gets the picture and is already shifting to the right. Us hard rights recognize her for the huge phoney she is, but there are a zillion independants and moderates out there, who aren't paying quite as close attention, that are going to be fooled by it.
She is definately going to be a factor in 08, I fear.


31 posted on 06/10/2005 5:32:46 AM PDT by observer821
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To: ambrose

I signed the Form 180 before I didn't sign it.....

GROAN

I released my Navy documents before I didn't release my Navy documents.....

GROAN


32 posted on 06/10/2005 5:35:46 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (Ethiopia: The New Happiest Place on Earth.)
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To: mewzilla

"This is getting old already"

Actually, it is important to demonstrate to the Dems who voted for Kerry just how far they were willing to go to destroy the nation with this boob.


33 posted on 06/10/2005 5:39:07 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

I agree. And the media angle, all the news that's fit to spike, is equally important.


34 posted on 06/10/2005 6:14:23 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: ambrose

This is the equivalent of GWB releasing his Air National Guard records to "The National Review." The rest of the Media wouldn't stand for this, and neither should we.

As others have observed, the Boston Globe is 'invested' in John Kerry. Kerry is hoping this cute little maneuver will bury the story so that he can shuck & jive through another election cycle. I don't think that it will work...even if he weren't competing with Queen Hillary.


35 posted on 06/10/2005 6:26:37 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Noachian

" I signed the Form 180 before I didn't sign it."


36 posted on 06/10/2005 7:59:19 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Kewlhand`tek

Just imagine if the story gets out on how the DNC/MSM almost propped a dishonorably discharged individual into the Presidency. It will be the end for them.


37 posted on 06/10/2005 8:59:53 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: FastCoyote

"This is getting old already"

Actually, it is important to demonstrate to the Dems who voted for Kerry just how far they were willing to go to destroy the nation with this boob."

True. It was the Bush TANG story that was getting old, at least until CBS started fabricating "fake but accurate" documents!

An honest comparison of the zeal with which the MSM went after Bush for this TANG service, and the comparative spiking of the Kerry/Swiftboat story is the most perfectly illustrative example of the liberal bias of MSM.

Bernie Goldberg should be all over this! It writes itself! He predicted it!


38 posted on 06/10/2005 9:10:35 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (Liberals are emablers for terrorists and other anti American groups.)
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To: observer821
I remember Clintons comments from his first run for the presidency. His comment was, "And just think of it, you get me and Hillary, a two for one deal". Sadly, me and many others bought into it. Now that statement is coming back to haunt us.

Your correct, fence leaners and those millions that just don't care, will not make up their minds until 1-2 weeks before the election.

Hillary is a very dangerous woman.

Shhhhhhh. If she wins, China almost immediately goes after Taiwan.

39 posted on 06/10/2005 6:54:56 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Temple Owl

ping


40 posted on 06/10/2005 6:56:16 PM PDT by Tribune7
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