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Tests unveiled in court show girl has cancer again(texas 12 year old)
www.kltv.com ^ | 6 10 05 | www.kltv.com

Posted on 06/10/2005 4:17:36 PM PDT by freepatriot32

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas Medical tests today showed that cancer has returned to a 12-year-old girl whose parents were in court to fight radiation treatment because they believed her illness was in remission.

The new tests were revealed by state attorneys during a hearing that was supposed to determine whether treatment for Katie Wernecke was necessary in the days leading up to a custody hearing next Wednesday.

Texas Child Protective Services removed the girl and her siblings from the home of Michele and Edward Wernecke last week after doctors said discontinued treatment could be life-threatening.

Katie was diagnosed with Hodgkin's Disease in January, when her parents brought her to the hospital for pneumonia treatment.

The parents had insisted the four rounds of chemotherapy Katie received killed the cancer and that the recommended radiation therapy would only harm a healthy girl.

But Friday's results, "changes everything," said Daniel Horne, an attorney for the parents.

The judge decided that the girl, who was not present for the hearing, would remain in state custody.

He recommended that the girl's treatment begin tomorrow, her 13th birthday. The judge did not immediately address how involved he would let the parents be.


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1 posted on 06/10/2005 4:17:38 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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2 posted on 06/10/2005 4:18:25 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: freepatriot32

This is one of those no-win situations. At first I was angry at the parents, but God, what they must be going through.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 4:20:09 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Born Conservative

Ping-a-roo. Remember the thread a couple of days ago about the child whose parents were trying to withold treatment they said she didn't need?

I guess the parents have to admit now that they didn't know more than the doctors.


4 posted on 06/10/2005 4:20:20 PM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

At first I was angry at the parents, but God, what they must be going through.
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Angry at the parents? When the government steals their children from them in order to impose what they believe is the right treatment. You cannot get any closer to Tyranny than that!


5 posted on 06/10/2005 4:22:27 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: freepatriot32

SHE NEEDS HER MOM ALL THE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 06/10/2005 4:24:29 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schindler was murdered - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: traviskicks
The government wasn't imposing what it believed to be the right treatment. It was making sure the young girl received her Constitutional rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

She'd already been diagnosed with cancer, fortunately of a well understood variety, with a prescribed course of treatment with a good success record.

No doctor had said she was free of cancer when this happened.

Children have a right to not be killed by their parents, Roe v. Wade to the contrary.

7 posted on 06/10/2005 4:28:00 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: traviskicks
BTW, there's a problem here with the word "steal". The child is not anyone's property, and the government exercised due process of law, not theft.

It really bothers me a lot when people refer to other human beings as merely property, or part of their own bodies.

8 posted on 06/10/2005 4:29:43 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: freepatriot32

This morning on the news the father said with the radiation treatments it would do damage to her spine's ability to grow and therefore his daughter "would stay short". It seemed like he was saying this was a factor in why they didn't want her to have more treatments. No doubt, having a sick child is the worst. It's an enormous strain on a family.


9 posted on 06/10/2005 4:35:38 PM PDT by Sabatier
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Short girls are a problem for some people.


10 posted on 06/10/2005 4:38:35 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah

It's tougher decision that what you see, IMHO.

I would want the decision on whether to do chemo and radiation myself. These are not guaranteed cures, often they prolong life with great suffering in ever shortening intervals.

My mother got off this train; and after watching her go through it, if I have the choice, I will likely get off sooner than she.

Court ordered medical treatment - particularly for cancer - is offensive on its surface. There are some obvious exceptions, but I'd be careful to limit these.


11 posted on 06/10/2005 4:38:41 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: traviskicks; Recovering Ex-hippie
Angry at the parents? When the government steals their children from them in order to impose what they believe is the right treatment. You cannot get any closer to Tyranny than that!

Ummmm.....It was the right treatment.

Even the parent's lawyer now admits that:

"But Friday's results, "changes everything," said Daniel Horne, an attorney for the parents."

With treatment, Hodgkin's Disease has a very high cure rate of over 90% in the early stages and even has a 70% to 80% cure rate in Stage III disease.

Without treatment, the death rate is 100%.

The parents originally claimed that the child was completely disease free without any data to back up that claim. As it is, even the parents and their lawyer now admit that the parents were wrong.

If the State had not intervened, that child would be a "dead kid walking" right now.

12 posted on 06/10/2005 4:39:09 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: D-fendr
This is one of those areas where medical science has shown there to be benefit.

These folks also cite the same Bible verses the Apostolic Charismatic Church of the First Born cites to justify shamanism and use of peyote.

I never, ever trust these guys to do anything but let their kids die and then bury them in secret graves.

13 posted on 06/10/2005 4:40:54 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah

Sure, but better short and healthy.


14 posted on 06/10/2005 4:41:07 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Sabatier
AT 4'10" a person achieves as high as you can go and still be a dwarf.

My hometown has enough dwarves that if you stand in one place out front of the Walmart for under an hour you will see at least 3 of them.

The local Autozone sells pedal extenders!

I think it was my Great Uncle who settled a bunch of people in his circus in this area.

15 posted on 06/10/2005 4:44:41 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah

"Short girls are a problem for some people."

Oh, so wrong. We're practically perfect and not a problem for anyone.


16 posted on 06/10/2005 4:44:58 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: SoVaDPJ

We had a Texan father who wanted a "tall girl", not a "short girl", and he was prepared to deny her life preserving radiation treatment to get that condition.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 4:46:07 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: freepatriot32
From the parents of a 8 yr. old with leukemia, the government telling us the proper treatment for our son is wrong!

Yet this child should receive the radiation treatment. Lymphoma has a high cure rate if they would follow accepted treatment plans.

18 posted on 06/10/2005 4:46:17 PM PDT by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: sausageseller

What is fundamentally wrong with the government directing people to the correct medical treatment?


19 posted on 06/10/2005 4:47:14 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Sabatier

Better 5'1'' than six feet under.


20 posted on 06/10/2005 4:48:53 PM PDT by cubram
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