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America's Most Dangerous Gang
POLICE magazine ^ | Shelly Feuer Domash

Posted on 06/11/2005 8:54:12 AM PDT by Calpernia

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To: Gritty; veeceeque


This is a version of the Illegal Alien Sanctuary policy too?


101 posted on 06/12/2005 4:58:48 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TheOtherOne
From the title I thought it was about the Hillary! '08 Presidential Campaign Organization. :-)

It will be interesting to see how many Democratic mystery corpses there are between now and then. :-(
102 posted on 06/12/2005 5:01:48 AM PDT by cgbg (I suffer from Stockholm Syndrome--"Your papers, please. No smoking here.")
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To: Calpernia

The gang has been allowed by our officials to become well established in the D.C. area and has been spreading to small communities in Virginia.


103 posted on 06/12/2005 5:10:11 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Calpernia

America's Most Dangerous Gang - the DIMS


To my dear Democratic, Republican and Conservative colleagues:

After a not inconsiderable amount of soul searching regarding the calls for my resignation by both parties, I have decided on the following recourse.

Sincerely,
Howard Dean - Chairman DNC

104 posted on 06/12/2005 5:12:01 AM PDT by infocats
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To: Calpernia

They are the product of the liberal obsession with diversity and multi-culturalism.


105 posted on 06/12/2005 5:13:50 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: Calpernia
What's the problem here? They're just doing the jobs that American gang members don't want to do!

Mark

106 posted on 06/12/2005 5:38:28 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: BCR #226

Ping


107 posted on 06/12/2005 5:11:15 PM PDT by gieriscm
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To: Calpernia

Note the question mark?

Just hyperbole.

Pushing the idea that it is past time that we get serious, and make these vermin afraid, then extinct.


108 posted on 06/12/2005 8:19:24 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Vermin infestation solutions, "Sombra Negra del Norte"?)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

Note what question mark?

You had Sombra Negra in your post. I didn't know what that was. I found an INS report on them and posted it. That was the URL I had in my post.


109 posted on 06/12/2005 8:27:51 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
No offense meant to you partner.

Like I said, we find what they fear and we use it against them in a serious way.
110 posted on 06/12/2005 8:44:07 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (I do NOT support death squads or any sort of outlaw actions, just VERY serious law enforcement)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

Not offended. I'm still reading. I don't know all the history on this gang issue. That is why I went and looked up what you posted.

Obviously I'm missing something because you are posting to me like I understand. I don't. I'm reading all I posted for the first time.

Can you explain a little more rather than assume I understand?


111 posted on 06/12/2005 8:54:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
"And that message was that gang violence had moved into the upper middle class enclaves of the Island, into the kinds of communities where the locals assume that crime is somebody else’s problem."

Our problem from the get-go....it is someone else's problem. Eventually it will be everyone's problem, even touching the congress critters up on capitol hill, who presently, don't seem to have a clue.

112 posted on 06/12/2005 8:59:21 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Calpernia

If I understand correctly.

MS 13 is from EL Salvador. It is a product of that country's long civil war, where left and right wing death squads fought each other and the people.

MS 13 is infamous for the extreme violence that they use as SOP, and their virtual lack of fear of law enforcement.

The Sombra Negra is a right wing death squad that are feared by MS 13 and it is thought that increased pressure from Sombra Negra in El Salvador has led to MS 13 bangers running to the US where they deal with US law enforcement which is hamstrung and emasculated by the current insane "PC" restrictions on LEO actions.

A hundred years ago these bangers would have been shot down in the streets like the mad dogs they are. By Law Enforcement.

The passage of time doesn't always mean "progress".


113 posted on 06/12/2005 9:12:54 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (I do NOT support death squads or any sort of outlaw actions, just VERY serious law enforcement)
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To: TheLion; advance_copy
I was thinking that too. But I saw an encouraging post from freeper advance_copy today.

Copy of his post:

If I've got one complaint about President Bush, it is about immigration. Tom Delay said the other day that the President has come around on the issue. "He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better," said DeLay. I see this as a very good sign. 3 posted on 06/12/2005 1:17:18 PM EDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)

I see this as a very good sign too. There are things going on out of our knowledge in reference to this Illegal Alien issue.

At that post link is a link to the full copy of Delay's and Bush's comments.

114 posted on 06/12/2005 9:13:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

You actually did help me with a few confusions! But, what is SOP?


115 posted on 06/12/2005 9:14:44 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: porkchops 4 mahound

Oh, and honestly, thank you too!


116 posted on 06/12/2005 9:15:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Sorry, Standard Operating Procedure, (SOP).

You are welcome, and thanks for that link on Sombra Negra also, good info there.

I am afraid these bangers understand only one thing, the iron fist, that is to say, brute force.


117 posted on 06/12/2005 9:19:33 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (I do NOT support death squads or any sort of outlaw actions, just VERY serious law enforcement)
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To: Calpernia
Many of the Salvadorans jumped in with the Eighteenth Street gang, but the majority of them decided to form their own street gang limiting membership to Salvadorans only. Thus, Mara Salvatrucha was born.

President Bush should reflect back to March, 2001, when he granted “temporary protected status” to as many as 300,000 illegal immigrants from El Salvador, many of whom were hardened veterans of that country’s civil war, a war that raged for 12 years, and ended in1992. That bloody war pitted government troops against leftists guerillas, and incurred in excess of 100,000 casualties, along with sending hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing northward. A large percentage of these refugees that had fought in their homeland, and who had been trained by U.S. Army advisers in El Salvador on the finer aspects of explosives, weaponry, infiltration and warfare, made it into the U.S. And in so doing, became the nucleus of a new formidable street gang, now pervasive throughout the United States.

They are now recruiting nationwide in state joints. With this army, recruitment is up.

118 posted on 06/12/2005 9:31:31 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Cacique

ping


119 posted on 06/12/2005 9:34:30 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: veeceeque

Actually, Contras were Nicaraguan anti-Communist(sandinista) fighters.

El Salvador is another Central American country.


120 posted on 06/12/2005 9:52:36 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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