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Illegal U.S. immigrants outnumber legals
The Washington Times (UPI Breaking News) ^ | June 14, 2005 | United Press International

Posted on 06/14/2005 12:10:35 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA

Washington, DC, Jun. 14 (UPI) -- The number of illegal migrants arriving in the United States has exceeded the number of new legal immigrants, a Pew Hispanic Center report finds. In recent years some 700,000 unauthorized migrants have arrived annually, compared with about 610,000 legal immigrants. "Unauthorized Migrants: Numbers and Characteristics" was prepared by Jeffrey Passel, a veteran demographer and senior research associate at the center. The report estimates the number of people living in families in which the head of the household or the spouse is an illegal alien at 13.9 million as of March 2004, including 4.7 million children. The report also said at least 6.3 million unauthorized workers were employed as of March 2004, comprising 4.3 percent of the civilian labor force. Overall, illegal migrants are less educated than other sectors of the population, with 49 percent not having completed high school, compared with 9 percent of the native-born and 25 percent of legal immigrants.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushfailure; hablaespanol; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; invasion; legalimmigrants; legalimmigration; mexico; newworldorder; northamerica; openborders
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1 posted on 06/14/2005 12:10:35 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA
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To: Convert from ECUSA

....and we're supposed to believe there's a "War on Terror"?


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2 posted on 06/14/2005 12:12:18 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Why should we even have borders, or countries. Just let everyone roam the world freely. It's good for business.


3 posted on 06/14/2005 12:12:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Time to build a wall. (well, it's BEEN time to build a wall).

Once the wall is up, and the next survey (2010) rolls around, we document every illegal, and require they get their citizenship within the next 3 or so years, or else be deported.

Just my simple solution.


4 posted on 06/14/2005 12:15:42 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: La Enchiladita

Yes, we really don't need countries any longer just coporations or families to take care of business.


5 posted on 06/14/2005 12:15:49 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

yup , then it'll be OK if I only wait to pay taxes, the gubm'nt is shirking a BIG part of it's job


6 posted on 06/14/2005 12:16:04 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: jpsb

That's where we're going. Does "Bush Dynasty" ring a bell?


7 posted on 06/14/2005 12:17:54 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Why should we even have borders, or countries. Just let everyone roam the world freely.

Precisely the plan - One World Order.

8 posted on 06/14/2005 12:18:46 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Yup the ruling class oligarchy is revealing itself, Kennedy, Bush, Rockefeller and other wealthy families are suverting the constitution and entrenching themselves into positions of perminate power. While simutaniously underminding the US middle class. Clear as day for anyone willing to have a look. US oligarchy is in no way threatened by millions of illegals, not at all since illegals already know how to live in tyranny, there are in fact a viewed as a good thing by the ruling elites.
9 posted on 06/14/2005 12:27:34 PM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: jpsb

Just curious, but you don't have any illegals doing the "construction" on your profile page, do you? Hehe.


10 posted on 06/14/2005 12:30:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I heard a local radio talk show host posit a theory about why the US ISN'T working harder to make a stronger border along south and north...

Remember, I HEARD this as a theory, I didn't make it up!!

He said that he thinks that the governments of US, Canada, and Mexico have talked secretly about eventually making our three countries ONE huge "union", similar to Europe...

The reason, he opined, that they would want to do that is because of China...he said that China is getting stronger, and because of trade, is working closely with other countries, that are not "real friendly", like Cuba, Venezuela, and others...

The thinking is that if these 3 countries, became one "north American nation", they would only have to worry about the borders along the oceans, not between the countries, when it comes to defense against enemies, such as China, Russia, N. Korea, etc...

IOW, we would also have use of their militaries (such that they are) to help enforce the shorelines, and we would also have use of both countries "fly-over" space for any kind of defense system and air force...

I guess he was saying that since China its self has like 2.5 million in their military, it would take the cooperation of our neighbors to help defend/attack that country, if ever necessary...

Just thought I would pass that theory along, as to why Bush hasn't been more hardline with Mexico about the borders!


11 posted on 06/14/2005 12:40:35 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

I don't trust anything coming out of the Pew Hispanic Center. I suspect their numbers for illegals is drastically understated.


12 posted on 06/14/2005 12:42:38 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Shazammmm! Gosh this is breaking news (to some morons.)


13 posted on 06/14/2005 12:46:41 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: Czar
"I suspect their numbers for illegals is drastically understated."

That wouldn't surprise me. If the area where I live is any indication, the numbers are a lot larger than anybody is reporting.
14 posted on 06/14/2005 12:48:31 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Drip, drip, drip.... Somehow, it is still not a priority to stop the invasion.


15 posted on 06/14/2005 12:58:43 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
From just the portion of the article that was posted (1 out of 5 ain't bad):Illegal U.S. immigrants outnumber legals

The number of illegal migrants arriving in the United States has exceeded the number of new legal immigrants...

In recent years some 700,000 unauthorized migrants have arrived annually, compared with about 610,000 legal immigrants.

... the number of people living in families in which the head of the household or the spouse is an illegal alien at 13.9 million as of March 2004, including 4.7 million children.

The report also said at least 6.3 million unauthorized workers were employed as of March 2004...

16 posted on 06/14/2005 12:58:48 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster

ping


17 posted on 06/14/2005 1:01:09 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Zeppelin
"...we document every illegal, and require they get their citizenship within the next 3 or so years, or else be deported."

One too many steps. Only 1) and 3) are needed. Find'em---then ship'em out.

18 posted on 06/14/2005 1:02:56 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog

yeah but i was trying to be somewhat realistic. if we just up and deported every illegal, there would be lots of second-hand legals (born here, legality in question) who would take to the streets. riots would ensue.

if only we could do it your way...that would be ideal.


19 posted on 06/14/2005 1:07:29 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Someone sent this to me via email the other day. I cleaned it up for the purposes of posting here.

We could substitute other euphemisms that are used in the media for the corporate buzzwords here, and play the same game!

Bravo Sierra Bingo - How to stay awake at meetings

1. Before or during your next meeting, seminar, personnel and budget committee, or conference call, prepare yourself by drawing a square 5" x 5" on a piece of paper. Divide the square into columns, five across and five down. That should give you 25 one-inch blocks of space.

2. Write one of the following words/phrases in each space:

result-driven
at the end of the day
out of the loop
24/7
infrastructure
core competencies
revisit
bottom line
best practice
strategic fit
fast track
think outside the box
win-win
proactive
value-added
benchmark
110%
client focused
paradigm
game plan
leverage
moving forward
enhanced
give it your best shot
wow them

3. Check off the appropriate box when you hear one of the above words/phrases.

4. When you get five blocks horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, stand up and shout: "Bravo Sierra!"


20 posted on 06/14/2005 1:23:28 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Zeppelin
"...if we just up and deported every illegal, there would be lots of second-hand legals (born here, legality in question) who would take to the streets. riots would ensue."

Offer them a choice. They can stay here legally and peacefully, or be shipped off with their parents. If they then riot, DEFINITELY ship them out along with their parents.

I'm TIRED of the namby-pamby, wishy-washing around on this issue. If you're here illegally, go home or be shipped home. Those are ONLY two allowable options.

21 posted on 06/14/2005 1:32:50 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Disambiguator
Bravo Sierra Bingo

That sums up a lot of things quite nicely, doesn't it.

22 posted on 06/14/2005 1:34:48 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


23 posted on 06/14/2005 1:37:22 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

I am convinced GWB is doing this on purpose knowing the chaos that is ensuing with this illegal alien disaster.


24 posted on 06/14/2005 1:41:14 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
700,000 unauthorized migrants have arrived annually

And the gov't would have us believe that there are "only" 10 million of them in the country?

Triple that figure. ...at the very least.

25 posted on 06/14/2005 1:42:58 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Remember, this is only an estimate. The actual number of illegal aliens may vary depending upon ...
26 posted on 06/14/2005 1:43:40 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico- Beyond your expectations!)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


27 posted on 06/14/2005 1:44:49 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Convert from ECUSA

BTTT


28 posted on 06/14/2005 1:50:00 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: La Enchiladita
Why should we even have borders, or countries. Just let everyone roam the world freely. It's good for business.

This is exactly Bush's plan under NAFTA. Bush, Fox, and the Canadian PM, seek to combine Mexico, USA, Canada, making us all one, big, country. Run, in theory, a bit like the European Union. We are being sold up the river, my friend.
29 posted on 06/14/2005 1:51:38 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Convert from ECUSA

they must be using the new math...


>>>>700,000 unauthorized migrants


30 posted on 06/14/2005 1:55:44 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: DumpsterDiver

The changing face of America

31 posted on 06/14/2005 1:59:47 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Iron Matron

There was a horrifying thread on this yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422038/posts

Gotta "outdo the EU!!" That's the battle cry!


32 posted on 06/14/2005 2:31:41 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
If the area where I live is any indication, the numbers are a lot larger than anybody is reporting.

You should see what California has become! A glance at parts of Los Angeles reminds me of a Mexican shanty border town.

33 posted on 06/14/2005 2:35:57 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: La Enchiladita
There was a horrifying thread on this yesterday:


I saw that! I saved it. I printed it. I have made copies of it (less FR identifying features). I plan to pass it out around town, and to various people I know who will also share the info.

It will be posted in several "waiting rooms". Oh, yes, I am not going to stand idly by while Bush et al, sells us out!

BTW, how did you get that link to print? I've mentioned that post on other threads, but have to write out the full title. It would be much easier to provide a link like you did!
34 posted on 06/14/2005 2:41:52 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Zeppelin

Just a word about the wall idea. It would be extremely costly, might stop the flow of illegal immigrants, but cannot offer our nation security. Our two most vulnerable points for a nuclear or biological attack by terrorists are adjacent to Tijuana and Juarez, Mexico. San Diego, California and El Paso, Texas or not only prime targets for terrorists to strike our civilian population, but the major military installation nearby.

We need to start thinking way beyond a wall, or a massive military presence along the border. The solution must secure our nation, end the mass migration, and be lasting.


35 posted on 06/14/2005 2:44:32 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: La Enchiladita

BTW, how did you get that link to print?

LOL! Never mind. Copy. Paste. I'm, upset I guess, not thinking....


36 posted on 06/14/2005 2:46:06 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Txsleuth

That isn't really news. We don't need to be one country to be allies. The real news would be the fact that we aren't.


37 posted on 06/14/2005 2:47:54 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: taxed2death

I wonder how many tax dollars it took to figure this out!


38 posted on 06/14/2005 2:48:50 PM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: backtothestreets
It would be extremely costly, might stop the flow of illegal immigrants, but cannot offer our nation security<<<


Illegal Immigrants ARE Invaders/Terrorists. Period. Bush is real big on letting in Mexican Illegals, while trying to stop terrorists and drug dealers.

IMO, all three of this group are as bad as the other. They ALL must be stopped.

A wall is a good start for illegals and the second amendment will cover any Middle Eastern Terrorists.
39 posted on 06/14/2005 2:49:39 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Zeppelin

There is really only one legitimate solution to rioting.


40 posted on 06/14/2005 2:49:43 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: backtothestreets

What are you talking about? What's so expensive about a silly wall. Don't listen to the spin. In some places it can be bob wire. Other places chain link. Other tall corrugated metal like the Israelis are using. Don't kid yourself, we can build a wall, and if we wanted to we could pay illegals $6.25/hour to do it for us, which I happen to think is a good idea.

The main thing is to back it up with force. Not the threat of, but actual force, then the faucet will close. THEN the threat will start to be effective, but not until the peasants are shown who is boss.


41 posted on 06/14/2005 2:54:04 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: Iron Matron

High tall would the wall have to be to fend off a terrorist attack with nuclear or biological weapons along our border?


42 posted on 06/14/2005 2:54:08 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: johnb838

My point is that the wall can stop the illegal migration, but cannot secure our major border cities from a terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction. We need to think well into the future. A failure to do so invites something worse than 9-11.


43 posted on 06/14/2005 2:57:24 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets

Should read: How tall would the wall have to be to fend off a terrorist attack with nuclear or biological weapons along our border?


44 posted on 06/14/2005 2:58:23 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets

You can't address every threat with one solution dude. You sound like one of the libs. If a wall won't fix every problem, lets don't do anything at all. Let's TALK for a few more years. Let's REACH OUT to the mexicans. Let's PAY THEM not to come, Let's be SENSITIVE. After all, WE ARE THE WORLD.

Listen, pal, the world doesn't work that way. The REAL world walks over the corpses of candy-assed effeminated fops of countries that actually believe that PC crap. The REAL world is a MANS world, and the biggest, toughest, meanest man in the neighborhood is the one that survives.

Anybody that tells you anything different wants to steal your wife, or your child, or your livlihood, or your life.


45 posted on 06/14/2005 2:59:17 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: blackie; janetgreen; carenot
Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!

They deserve that and much more support.

46 posted on 06/14/2005 3:08:43 PM PDT by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat: http://mychan.searchirc.com/efnet/conservative)
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To: Iron Matron

Keep up the good work. We need to get the word out. Too bad not enough people took the little guy with the big ears seriously.


47 posted on 06/14/2005 3:51:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: The_Eaglet

Roger that, Brother!

Be Ever Vigilant!


48 posted on 06/14/2005 3:52:16 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Txsleuth

I've seen the China-Latin America link before. Of course, the "threat" of China can be used as a justification for what they were going to do anyway, starting back in the Carter years with the Trilateral Commission, then NAFTA, then GATT, now CAFTA.

And why do we do so much trade with China and have a huge deficit with them? That's one to think about.... It certainly hasn't made them an ally.

BTW, India is set to surpass China in population, I think, 2010 or 2012.

My theory is that political enmity is just a smokescreen for furthering the money and power interests of the elite.


49 posted on 06/14/2005 3:57:11 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Good work, Detective Diver!!! ;-)


50 posted on 06/14/2005 3:58:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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