Posted on 06/14/2005 5:22:05 PM PDT by njackson22
I've gotten to hear Roy Moore speak on two occasions in ohio. He was a hero. He showed us video of Bill Pryor basically trying to get him to recant three times. I am 100 percent behind Roy Moore.
I'd stay and vote to take it back.
If the grass roots doesn't mobilize and work to nominate a principled conservative in 2008, I fear that we may be facing a nightmare scenario:
Hillary as the Democrat nominee
A RINO (McCain, Giuliani) as the Republican nominee, with the support of MSM and the Beltway establishment neocon elite crowd. Running on an open-border, pro-abortion, gun-grabbing "bipartisan" platform.
Roy Moore (Republican governor of Alabama) as a third party candidate. Or Tancredo. Running on an isolationist, border security, anti-abortion platform.
And Hillary consolidating her base, and winning with 43% of the vote like her hubby in 1992. And then there will be hell to pay.
If he compromised then people would like him more. But he was obeying a higher law.
I would probably stay and fight too.
Seeing how it is 2005 and not 2007/2008, you have no idea who the GOP is going to nominate.
Well, we're replacing them as fast as the system allows. Until then, we have to deal with realistic expectations of their rulings.
He increased it. And anyone who has a legal background predicted it at the time. I can't help but conclude that it was deliberate. Either that, or he's a moron.
Neither conclusion leads me to support him for anything.
bump for later reading.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
Leetle discussion about Roy Moore, Mr. 10 Commandments himself. Just a snippet of the article, but it's from the Boston Globe so who cares.
I've got to do a search and re-read some of those 10 Commandment/Moore threads. I made some good comments that I want to copy (ahem).
I'd like to hear ex-judge Moore speak - what motivates him, is he self serving as some people say? Somewhere I've got a poem he wrote, seemed good to me!
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I just can't imagine any good motivation for wanting to eliminate all public display of the 10 Commandments. Unless they make people feel uncomfortable because they want to break them. Not that that's a "good" motivation, just understandable. If I was a thief, I'd hate "Do Not Steal" signs and little sercurity cameras.
Bump.
Who wants to eliminate them? They're on display in the Supreme Court building itself, and in the Supreme Court building in Texas.
But they are not sitting out there, by themselves, on a big rock, as a religious monument. They're combined with the symbols of the Code of Hammurabi and other symbols of the heritage of law.
IOW, the 10 Commandments can be displayed in government buildings. But not in the way Roy Moore displayed them.
But that was fine with Moore. He wanted to provoke a confrontation so he could build a political base. He said, in his defense of his position before the Federal Court of Appeals, that Jews and Muslims, and Buddhists....indeed, every other non-Christian religion enjoys its status in America only because Christians grant it that status.
Moore is scary, but he appeals to hard-right evangelicals and fundamentalists, and those who want to make sure only Christian prayers are said at Friday night high school football games.
Moore may be elected governor of Alabama, and many feel he will provoke another confrontation with the federal government, ala George Wallace, by putting another rock out on the lawn of the State Capitol and daring Bush to enforce a court order to remove it.
He's a grandstanding glory-hound and an advocate of making evangelical Christianity the preferred religious expression in America.
I can't believe that any jurist who actually believes what he purports to believe would have conducted himself that way.
His actions were doomed to legal failure. He can't possibly be that stupid not to know that. He's using that deliberate failure to seek higher office. It's a pathetically cynical strategy and it's sad to see many of my fellow conservatives swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
I know that's what you say. But you say a lot of things.
""Sadly" the Republican Party is hell bent on running Rudy or McCain for Pres."
I often hear of Senator Allen, VA as a good candidate. Jeb Bush, Bill Frist.
I think McCain has been too disloyal and independent to expect the nomination.
I could support Rudy. Unlike many, I'm not a one issue "theocon."
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