Posted on 06/15/2005 7:29:55 AM PDT by Wiz
SYDNEY (AFP) - China is using a vast network of spies in an attempt to turn Australia into a "political colony," a defector said, as it was revealed Beijing officials had been allowed to interrogate Chinese held in Australian detention centres.
Former Beijing University professor Yuan Hongbing, the fourth Chinese defector to surface in Australia in the past month, supported charges by a rebel Chinese diplomat that Beijing had an extensive network of agents in the country.
The agents are targeting Chinese dissidents and are also being used to influence political thought "to turn Australia into a political colony of China," Yuan told ABC radio.
"Political colony means the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) will use their ideology to influence Australia's politics and gradually to turn Australia to betray its fundamental principles of freedom and democracy," Yuan said through an interpretde.
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Can you say "hegemon"? China has an elaborate (yet simple) long term strategy to become the world's second superpower and they don't have to invade anyone to make it happen: (1) neutralize the US miltarily and politically in the Pacific, (2) surround us in North America using friendly surrogates (e.g. Chavez), (3) slowly bring the Middle East, the Europeans and Russians over to their side of the table via economic incentives and playing on their inbred anti-Americanism and (4) limit America's options by obtaining powerful leverage over our economy.
Lol, you come up with some real good ones, I gotta say!
In which alternate universe?
He's serious in his own way. At any given time there are a number of Chinese communist netagandists here at FR.
There may still be some "true believers" in the PRC government, but they aren't running the show.
The PRC have just discarded the failed Maoist and Marxist economic model in favor of a more fascist economic system that uses a market based model with which they are wooing trillions of dollars of foreign investment so they can become self sufficient economically and ontinue to build and improve their military...while not raising the standard of living or the liberty of the vast majority of their citizens who represent their cheap labor pool.
And they are doing all of this very well indeed, to all of our shame IMHO.
But, make no mistake, ideologically and politically they are every bit as much communists as they ever were.
I can see them making a move like this, given their goal to be the dominant power in the region. They've got to see the western-allied Australia as an unwelcome neighbor.
But... given the fact that the current government there is one of America's closest friends, isn't it premature to call them a vassal state of PRC?
Australia is considered China's overflow zone.
MOst of the so called non-military industries are run by communist leaders or their children or relatives. The people benifiting from the economic growth are NOT the large majority of the Chinese people...I have been there with US firms and have seen it. The vast majority still live mostly in squalor. There is an effort by the leadership to get them into the cities, but that is so they can take better, more efficient avantage of their cheap labor.
If you analyze it, the people benefiting, IMHO, from the growth, are the members of the Communist Party and their families. Trouble is, at 6-8% of the population of something like 1.2 billion, that represents a lot of people (approaching 100 million) and they can put on one heck of a show.
I have seen it...they are very good at wooing our politicians and our corporate leaders.
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But, make no mistake, ideologically and politically they are every bit as much communists as they ever were.
I still see no evidence that the CCP and its rhetoric are anything other than tools of state control. Apart from the mere fact of the existence of the Party, and its boilerplate rhetoric, what leads you to conclude that the PRC government is still ideologically committed to communism?
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They have modified their economic model, and done it very well, in order to survive in today's global economy...and they are taking abject advantage of it IMHO.
If it smells like a rat, walks like a rat, talks like a rat, and in fact itself claims to be a rat...odds are pretty good that it is a rat.
LOL! Every coomunist state has been exactly that. The utopia rhetoric is for the useful idiots...which far too many American are falling for IMHO.
A guy I know explained it to me thusly:
If a guy in a Shanghai office gets two phone calls at the same time, and they are:
1. The Chairman of the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing;
and
2. The Shanghai guy's investment banker in New York...
One guy is going to end up on hold listening to Chinese elevator muzak.
In 1978, it would've been the banker.
In 2005, it's the Chairman.
Contrast all those things that you listed with the British empire in China during the 1800s and early 1900s, with the Japanese empire in China during the 1900s, with the expansion of Russia during the 1700s on, etc...Compared to other cultures, China has historically been the least expansionist.
But in the end, the benefit of the call will have nothing to do with liberty, freedom, advancing the true "free market", or the betterment of their people. It is about power and control...and for the communists, that is all it has ever been about. Sadly, IMHO, we are playing into their hands.
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