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One-world religion on its way? - (where's the proof that George W. Bush favors this monstrosity?)
WORLD NET DAILY.COM ^ | JUNE 17, 2005 | Staff Writer

Posted on 06/17/2005 2:58:43 PM PDT by CHARLITE

'False Dawn' exposes powerful, secretive movement for new global faith

What do George W. Bush, George Soros, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon and the Dalai Lama have in common?

All have thrown their support to the United Religions Initiative. And what is the URI? According to a new blockbuster book, "False Dawn: The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, And The Quest For A One-world Religion" by Lee Penn, it's something that doesn't bode well either for a sovereign America or for Christianity.

The interfaith movement, explains investigative reporter Lee Penn, began with the 1893 World's Parliament of Religions in Chicago, and has since grown worldwide. Although this movement has been largely unknown to the public, it now provides a spiritual face for globalization, the economic and political forces leading from nationalism to a one-world system, he says.

The most ambitious organization in today's interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative, or URI, founded by William Swing, the Episcopal bishop of California. In "False Dawn," Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, exhaustively documents the history and beliefs of the URI and its New Age and globalist allies, the vested interests that support these movements, and the direction they appear to be taking.

The interfaith movement is no longer merely the province of a coterie of little-heeded religious idealists with grandiose visions, he says. The URI's proponents have ranged from billionaire George Soros to President George W. Bush, from the far-right Rev. Sun Myung Moon to the liberal Catholic theologian Hans Küng, and from the Dalai Lama to the leaders of government-approved Protestant churches in the People's Republic of China.

According to Penn, the interfaith movement, including the URI, is being promoted by globalist and New Age reformers who favor erosion of national sovereignty, marginalization of traditional religions, establishment of "global governance," and creation of a new, Earth-based "global spirituality" – in effect, a one-world religion.

Therefore, warns "False Dawn," the URI and the interfaith movement are poised to become the spiritual foundation of the New World Order – the "new civilization" now proposed by Mikhail Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union.

As Penn explains it:

French metaphysician René Guénon, in "The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times," spoke of the "anti-tradition" (the forces of materialism and secular humanism) finally giving way to the "counter-tradition" (the satanic inversion of true spirituality), leading to the regime of Antichrist. The "anti-tradition" weakens and dissolves traditional spiritualities, after which the "counter-tradition" sets up a counterfeit in their place. Since Guénon's time, as is well known, anti-traditional forces have greatly advanced worldwide. It is less well-known that counter-traditional movements have also made great strides, and now stand closer to the centers of global political and religious power than ever before. The "counter-tradition" is making inroads on the political and cultural Right, as much as it is doing on the Left.

"False Dawn" painstakingly documents these trends, and speculates on their future development. In so doing, the author takes investigative reporting to the threshold of prophecy, and gives us a stunningly plausible picture of the global religious landscape of the 21st century.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichrist; antitraditionalism; bookreview; borders; falsedawn; global; interfaith; newage; oneworld; open; religion; spirituality
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To: itsahoot

That could be, since Graham has been a huge influence in his life. I would like Graham to elaborate more on this and see what he says. I know his son Franklin does not at all agree with this and has said so.


41 posted on 06/17/2005 8:20:47 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (If we do not pray for our leaders, we cannot expect them to do what is right.)
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To: taxesareforever

That is the world religion!

Muslims can still be muslims. Hindus can still be Hindu's, B'Hais can still be B'Hais. And Christians can still be Christians as long as they don't insist that Jesus is the ONLY way to God. You see, we all worship the same God, even our "Christian" president says so. Let's drop all our petty doctrinal differences and just get along.


42 posted on 06/17/2005 9:02:53 PM PDT by The Lumster
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To: The Lumster

I certainly didn't read anything about Jesus in the Initiative so I don't know where you came up with that. I am not defending the Initiative but I am criticizing those who say that this Initiative is forming a one world religion. If it is a one world religion, what is it and what do they believe in? Please, not opinion, but facts.


43 posted on 06/17/2005 9:24:09 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever; CHARLITE
But where is the Initiative? When someone says that there is a United Religion Initiative I would think that it could be posted so we all can read it. Otherwise, this is poppycock.
You don't know how to use a search engine, taxes? Here is your request!

All About URI
Note the UN association.

Here are the results I got...United Religion Initiative
Go ahead, stick your fingers in the holes, Thomas.
44 posted on 06/17/2005 10:06:59 PM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: taxesareforever; CHARLITE
Since some might be having trouble finding the UN connection I'll help out...

Some folks simply have NO clue whatsoever!

45 posted on 06/17/2005 10:12:40 PM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: philman_36

You must have overlooked my Post #35.


46 posted on 06/17/2005 10:20:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: philman_36

Maybe that is why you overlooked my Post #35.


47 posted on 06/17/2005 10:22:32 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: CHARLITE

Wrestling ping? :) lol
48 posted on 06/17/2005 10:33:41 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: The Lumster

Can Muslims still be Muslims if they don't say that Mohammed is the only way to God?


49 posted on 06/17/2005 10:43:21 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: taxesareforever
Just now getting to it and trying to answer some of your questions.
You ask.... However, this is from the link and I would like to know how the establishment of a world religion can be seen in this:
Firstly, I need to ask...To you, what constitutes a religion? Does your definition fit their definition? Perhaps and perhaps not.

Secondly...If it is a one world religion, what is it and what do they believe in?
They "believe" many things and they are expressed in their Preamble, Purpose, and Principles. Even though they claim not to be a religion...(1. The URI is a bridge-building organization, not a religion.
...they put quite a bit of emphasis on the Earth as a living entity, not as an object. This, IMO at least, makes them worshippers of the Earth and that makes it a religion, despite their claims that they're not a religion.

I guess it all comes down to the definition of "religion". Since they give none one is left to speculate. Your specualtion may simply be different from mine much as your definition of religion may be different from theirs. I would say that there simplky are no easy answers to your questions. Believe as you will and I'll do the same.
I believe they're trying to install a world religion myself based upon "Earth worship".

50 posted on 06/17/2005 10:52:35 PM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: taxesareforever; CHARLITE
For those wishing to know more about this...
The United Religions Initiative - Foundation for a World Religion
By Lee Penn
(the man in question in the article)
This file - the longest of any of those on this Web site, is an introduction to the URI, an analysis of the draft Charter that it wrote in 1998, and proof that the URI opposes Christian evangelims and favors a new, Earth-centered religion.
51 posted on 06/17/2005 11:04:46 PM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: philman_36

Ok, we are on the same page. All I was saying is that I do not gather from their website that they are trying to establish a one religion world. However, I do not put any trust in them acting outside what their website states and maybe, just maybe they really do intend to try to make this a one religion world. However, I think that WND is stretching it to say that they are trying to establish this one world religion. Not to say we shouldn't be wary and keep cognizant of what is going on.


52 posted on 06/17/2005 11:17:10 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
All I was saying is that I do not gather from their website that they are trying to establish a one religion world.
Too funny! You didn't actually think that they would come right out and say they were trying to do that did you? They wouldn't last very long if they did. No, if anything they're very subtle. A discerning mind and reading beyond the front pages of a website is needed.
However, I think that WND is stretching it to say that they are trying to establish this one world religion.
Is it WND or an individual writer saying that? I highly recommend looking at Penn's website and seeing the numerous quotes he has there from the leaders of this "movement". They are very illuminating and show that the intent is, in fact, to create a new world religion.

Not to say we shouldn't be wary and keep cognizant of what is going on.
I've been cognizant of it as long as Penn has been and wary of it for far longer. That is part of the reason I don't like the faith based initiatives. They're part and parcel with each other and a very bad move by the POTUS.

53 posted on 06/17/2005 11:47:16 PM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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To: philman_36

Then you also must be wary of the World Council of Churches. I'm not only wary of it I know that their mission isn't the spreading of the Gospel.


54 posted on 06/18/2005 12:09:17 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: The Lumster
Muslims can still be muslims. Hindus can still be Hindu's, B'Hais can still be B'Hais. And Christians can still be Christians as long as they don't insist that Jesus is the ONLY way to God. You see, we all worship the same God, even our "Christian" president says so. Let's drop all our petty doctrinal differences and just get along.

I am a conservative Catholic and have numerous conservative Catholics friends who believe you are right and this is precisely what is coming. Indeed, we already have the problem with the gay community pushing the media and the rest of society to accept instead of reject their life-style. "How can you Christians be so hard hearted and mean?"

Perhaps in a clumsy way President Bush made the same argument but I don't think it is what he believes. All politicians are opportunists, some worse than others. It could be that what President Bush believes in most right now is that a "form" of government will save the rest of the world in a geo-political sense. I don't think he believes it will get anyone to heaven.

55 posted on 06/18/2005 4:05:20 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Diva
To avoid offending those present he did not continue by saying Christianity Is all the Truth.

In his effort to "avoid offending" those present he could be offending the God he claims to know, love and serve; one who has said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes unto the father, but through me."

WHo should he rather offend - his God or some exchange students?

56 posted on 06/18/2005 4:45:50 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81 MM Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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To: The Lumster
Let's drop all our petty doctrinal differences and just get along.

Won't happen Lum, here is why....(Ask Abner)

Acts 4:10• Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Acts 4:11• This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Acts 4:12• Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

57 posted on 06/18/2005 9:37:30 AM PDT by itsahoot (If Judge Greer can run America then I guess just about anyone with a spine could do the same.)
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To: Bear_Slayer
"I believe there's an almighty god who speaks to different faiths -- and I believe freedom is a gift from that almighty," the president said.

According to the article these are the President's words, right?

WHo should he rather offend - his God or some exchange students?

How does what he said offend God?

58 posted on 06/18/2005 11:04:00 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Diva
I should have been a little clearer.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes unto the father, but through me."

Jesus claimed to be God. Christianity is all-exclusive and claims that all other gods are false.

If Bush gives credence to other (false) gods, he risks offending the exclusive God that he claims to worship. I'm not asking you to believe Christianity, but it would be dishonest for Bush (or you) to claim that it teaches anything different

59 posted on 06/18/2005 12:20:59 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81 MM Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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To: Bear_Slayer
If Bush gives credence to other (false) gods, he risks offending the exclusive God that he claims to worship. I'm not asking you to believe Christianity, but it would be dishonest for Bush (or you) to claim that it teaches anything different

What makes you think he is giving credence to other gods. I think he IS speaking about God. He didn't even use, according to the article, the name muslims use-allah, he said an Almighty God. As I stated in another post the concept that God has had an influence in other religions is nothing new. Perhaps President Bush was simply expressing this belief.

60 posted on 06/18/2005 3:42:40 PM PDT by Diva
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