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Key To Downing Street Fakes? (Can I Be Famous Like Buckhead?)
20 JUNE 05 | Doctor Raoul

Posted on 06/20/2005 7:17:40 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul

As has been discussed on Free Republic earlier, Downing Street Memo Originals Destroyed -UGH!, British "reporter" Michael Smith has told Asociated Press that he copied the original on plain paper and then destroyed the originals.

But click here and you see a Reuters Wire Photo Showing a "Seal" on the "copy" offered to the press.



The caption reads, "A copy of the so-called 'Downing Street Memo', produced in July 2002 for Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair on the legality of the invasion of Iraq. Photo by Stephen Hird/Reuters".

Did he really destroy them, type them on plain paper? Don't look like plain paper to me Lucy.....Lucy Rameriz!

Looks like Michael Smith has adopted Dan Rather's mantra, "FORGE ON!"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: britishmemo; downingstreetmemo; hoax; wannabe
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1 posted on 06/20/2005 7:17:40 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: OXENinFLA; Ernest_at_the_Beach

FYI


2 posted on 06/20/2005 7:19:27 PM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Pretty sleuth-like!!!


3 posted on 06/20/2005 7:20:35 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Great sleuthing, Doc.....


4 posted on 06/20/2005 7:20:54 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Doctor Raoul

Woah.


5 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:38 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (And our prisoners at Gitmo eat better than I do)
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To: Doctor Raoul
It sure looks like an official seal to me, which brings up the question as to the legitimacy of the entire story.

After all, if the document was "retyped" it wouldn't have been done on official stationary. If the document was going to be passed off as legitimate, it stands to reason that the official seal would have been forged as well.

6 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:40 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yeah how could he have typed the seal? makes less sense everyday.


7 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:49 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Doctor Raoul

bumpity bump!


8 posted on 06/20/2005 7:22:36 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I hate Hurricane Season!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

VERY eenteresting.


9 posted on 06/20/2005 7:22:53 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: Doctor Raoul; USF; jan in Colorado; Dark Skies

could lead to something very interesting...


10 posted on 06/20/2005 7:23:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Reactionary
What "font" is that "Seal"?
11 posted on 06/20/2005 7:23:49 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yes we must get Dan Blather and his crack team at 60 Minutes to investigate this.


12 posted on 06/20/2005 7:23:56 PM PDT by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I like the goofy glasses highlight on Secret and Prime Minister.

It looks like a still from Court TV's "Forensic Files".

13 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:13 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Lovebloggers
Yeah how could he have typed the seal?

Harrrumph! LOTS of Selectrics could do that. I know! Anybody who does not believe me is a pot smoking Libdopian UFO sighting freak.

14 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:19 PM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: Doctor Raoul
Any idea as to the significance of the shadow of a pair of eyeglasses? Which, by the way, anyone with a working knowledge of optics can tell are fake.

(steely)

15 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

The seal may be the seal/letterhead of an organization he works for -- they are big on that kind of thing over there.


16 posted on 06/20/2005 7:25:55 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Doctor Raoul
What font is that seal?

That's no font, that's my daddy!


17 posted on 06/20/2005 7:26:53 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Reactionary
It's a Father Downing mystery!
18 posted on 06/20/2005 7:27:45 PM PDT by Perdogg (Perdogg for President - 2008 (Party every night at the White house))
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To: Doctor Raoul

bump


19 posted on 06/20/2005 7:28:07 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Jane Fonda might as well make her gravestone a urinal. Semper Fi)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Today on Rush .. he was discussing the name of Michael Smith and Rush was questioning whether or not there was a Michael Smith who worked with Mary Mapes in Texas. I think Rush established that there is such a person who had some connection to Burkett .. but Rush is investigating whether or not it's the same Michael Smith involved with this story.

And .. it is really the DOWNING STREET MINUTES - it's not a memo. It's the minutes from a meeting.


20 posted on 06/20/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Doctor Raoul

what i find funny is that lack of interest in the fact that this might(IS) just be another fake. it would seem Conservatives just expect fraud and fakes now. should we at this time bring up all those senators who had the downing street memo impeach bush meeting on treason charges? one would think you would vet such things before calling for the head of a country. probably not, same old dumb nice guys.


21 posted on 06/20/2005 7:32:26 PM PDT by postaldave (NOTICE: IF MY POST UPSET YOU, WHAT I SAID WAS SARCASM)
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To: expatpat
The seal may be the seal/letterhead of an organization he works for -- they are big on that kind of thing over there.

NOPE. That's the Downing Street seal:

Example:


22 posted on 06/20/2005 7:32:56 PM PDT by thchronic
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To: Doctor Raoul
It says "Secret" above the seal but I can't make out what appears to be three letters on the seal itself.
23 posted on 06/20/2005 7:33:16 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Got a real memo from HERE

Maybe the secret memos are different.


24 posted on 06/20/2005 7:33:17 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: NewMediaFan
Yes we must get Dan Blather and his crack team at 60 Minutes to investigate this.

THey're busy. They've got Lucy Ramirez cornered. As soon as the Viagra takes effect, Mike Wallace is going to break down the door.

26 posted on 06/20/2005 7:34:42 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: Motherbear

bump


27 posted on 06/20/2005 7:35:34 PM PDT by pushforbush
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To: Doctor Raoul

Actually now that I think about it I am sure Michael Smith was provided with blank letterhead from Downing Street as opposed to actual documents -- much easier that way to type up anything he needs.

One size fits all type of deal.


28 posted on 06/20/2005 7:35:45 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Mo1; Doctor Raoul
From a link on the other thread we have a video on Hardball explaining....

Video -- 'Hardball' Reports On The Downing Street Memo

29 posted on 06/20/2005 7:36:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Doctor Raoul

Yeah, and plain paper doesn't usually have diffuse shadows of eyeglass frames on it. And rarely is part of the page crisp and the other rest blurry. No one uses courier any more. Etc. If the seal was the only thing you noticed, you have a particularly narrow form of tunnel vision.

It's a graphic. It's an illustration. The fact that it's labeled a "photo" indicates that something is dicey wth the way Reuters labels its images or the way Yahoo reads the labels. If you want to read some kind of conspiracy into that, knock yourself out.


30 posted on 06/20/2005 7:36:11 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: CyberAnt

On July 23, Michael Smith, a freelance journalist in Texas who was working on the story along with Mapes, sent her an email that began: "I am close to something that the Bushies are worried about..." Mapes responded: "I desperately want to talk to you....Do NOT underestimate how much I want this story."

Mapes and freelance journalist Michael Smith (who worked on the piece with Mapes) had different recollections of how Burkett came into custody of the documents. Smith told the panel that Burkett “received them anonymously in the mail”, while Mapes said Burkett identified a warrant officer named George Conn (which Burkett would later admit was a lie).


31 posted on 06/20/2005 7:36:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Doctor Raoul; All

OFFF COURSE Dr Raoul go for it

Smack around BBC LOL!


32 posted on 06/20/2005 7:36:49 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I hereby nominate Doctor Raoul to be an Honorary Buckhead entitling him to all the perqs and privileges and television interviews that come with it and all that jazz.


33 posted on 06/20/2005 7:37:04 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: RGSpincich
Notice that is signed by "John Holmes". And they say he was dead.

No big deal, he's still #2.

34 posted on 06/20/2005 7:37:54 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: ReignOfError

"A copy of the so-called 'Downing Street Memo', produced in July 2002 for Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair on the legality of the invasion of Iraq. Photo by Stephen Hird/Reuters"

Go to the link - this is what is written next to the picture.


35 posted on 06/20/2005 7:39:24 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Doctor Raoul
You know, the available image (as poor as it is) looks photocopied. The "seal" lacks optical definition; it has no detail at all, even under magnification.

Is this supposed to be the original "retyped" document?

36 posted on 06/20/2005 7:39:51 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Texas Eagle
I hereby nominate Doctor Raoul to be an Honorary Buckhead entitling him to all the perqs and privileges and television interviews that come with it and all that jazz.

I'll settle for being half as good looking as Buckhead...

37 posted on 06/20/2005 7:40:23 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: RGSpincich
That seal looks slightly different to me at the bottom but it is hard to tell.
38 posted on 06/20/2005 7:40:54 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: ReignOfError

"Every party needs a Pooper, that's why we invited you!...Party Pooper...Party Pooper..."


39 posted on 06/20/2005 7:42:02 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I'll settle for being half as good looking as Buckhead...

Come on. I'm not God.

40 posted on 06/20/2005 7:42:22 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Tell Powerline about your find, asap. They are the ones who made Buckhead famous. But I don't think you'll get as famous as him. LOL.

John / Billybob
41 posted on 06/20/2005 7:43:01 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: TheForceOfOne

Reverse image? Black is white plus a circular black border in the top one.


42 posted on 06/20/2005 7:43:47 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: MadIvan

Any comments on this...


43 posted on 06/20/2005 7:44:34 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I got the very same seal on a message offering me great rewards for my participation in a discreet scheme to transfer funds into the Country, via my Credit Union account.


44 posted on 06/20/2005 7:44:36 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: kcvl

Is it the same Michael Smith?


45 posted on 06/20/2005 7:44:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Doctor Raoul
British "reporter" Michael Smith has told Asociated Press that he copied the original on plain paper and then destroyed the originals.

Nuh-uhhhhhh.

46 posted on 06/20/2005 7:45:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Looks like another Dan Blather wannabe!


47 posted on 06/20/2005 7:47:59 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: RGSpincich
There is an arc below the seal with what appears to be three letters (BEI ????) that I don't see on the post #24 document.
48 posted on 06/20/2005 7:50:01 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Doc, you're already famous. See Here.

This is, however, a very interesting development. The fellow's story gets a bit more stretched by the hour - he claims to have tried to "protect his source" by destroying the originals after having his legal secretary retype them...on plain paper...on an old typewriter. Why? And now they have a seal. The story stinks like a mackerel that's been dead for three days in the hot Louisiana sun.

49 posted on 06/20/2005 7:51:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Howlin

Who does this Michael Smith work for now?


50 posted on 06/20/2005 7:54:55 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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