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Cruel and Unusual -Terri
NY Times ^ | 6/23/05 | Bob Herbert

Posted on 06/22/2005 8:06:02 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Peter Libra
Very good point ~ the NYT, of course, has no decency whatsoever so to them it's just a rhetorical device and not a rhetorical question.

In general the NYT glories in the death of each and every American.

61 posted on 06/22/2005 9:08:50 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: muawiyah

...In general the NYT glories in the death of each and every American...

NYT is only suitable for bird cage litter.


62 posted on 06/22/2005 9:16:10 PM PDT by planekT (Suncoast is toast.)
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To: planekT
Good comment. I'm glad to see someone else get back to the ONLY point to this thread which is that the New York Times is an evil entity in America that will always take a position contrary to the maintenance of civil order and good government.

Those other guys who wanted to discuss other stuff do not have sufficient debating skills to comprehend what's really going on here. As I had to tell them repeatedly, this is NOT about them!

63 posted on 06/22/2005 9:18:20 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

It is a waste of time, and Jeb Bush knows that full well. It's just a sop to the conservatives. Nothing will come of it, including the credit Jeb hopes to gain from it.


64 posted on 06/22/2005 9:19:36 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: muawiyah

They represent the ideals of a large cesspool. Therefore, everything that appears in their pages is pure shit.


65 posted on 06/22/2005 9:22:17 PM PDT by planekT (Suncoast is toast.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"The word 'investigation,'" he said, "is a term of art in my business."

In my business, a "term of art" is called lying.

66 posted on 06/22/2005 9:25:42 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: muawiyah
I'm going to be happy to just step over your body

Ooooohkayyythen...the nice men in the white coats are coming to help you...

On the other hand, drilling for oil off Florida is a good way to get yourself UNELECTED. Any politician would have taken the same position.

Let's see then, what's arguably America's second biggest problem...energy costs perhaps? Do Floridians have to pay high gasoline and fuel oil prices? Do the 95% of Floridians who don't live on the Gulf coast give a damn about Gulf drilling? Could we hope for a smidgin of leadership of a Presidential wannabee, even in support of his own brother's energy policies? Nahhhh.

At the same time Haitians turn out to make mighty good Republican voters. They are forgiven by all real Freepers!

I guess that's why I remember all those stories in 2000 of Republican party operatives going into the voting booths with Creole speaking Haitians to "help" them vote...oh wait, it wasn't the Republican operatives, it was the Democrat party operatives...

And 'ol muawiyah boy if you just had to guess, just guess,what would be the most important issue now for FReepers? NOoooooo, NOT Terri Schiavo...try ILLEGAL f*'immigration. And can we hope for a smidgen of support from Jeb, a spending of a penny of political capital which we FReepers, other concerned Conservatives, even liberatians, and just plain worried citizens gave to the Republicans in 2004...noooo...Jeb is going to spend his political capital going after a private citizen who made the same painful decision that many of us have made or will make.

67 posted on 06/22/2005 9:28:11 PM PDT by MRMEAN ("On the Internet nobody knows that you're a dog")
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To: jess35

Terri didn't want to live in a PVS state. This was confirmed with multiple witnesses in a court of law.

____No, it was confirmed by Judge Freer's decision to believe Michael Schiavo..I think Jeb feels some shame that he wasn't able to stop the euthanizing of a disabled woman..


68 posted on 06/22/2005 9:32:19 PM PDT by Bushbacker (f)
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To: MRMEAN
"On the Internet nobody knows that you're a dog"

Some of us cats do!

Consider my back arched and my tail fully fluffed out!

69 posted on 06/22/2005 9:32:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Bushbacker

What part of multiple witnesses do you not understand?


70 posted on 06/22/2005 9:40:11 PM PDT by jess35
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To: grey_whiskers

Grrrrrr......


71 posted on 06/22/2005 9:43:04 PM PDT by MRMEAN ("On the Internet nobody knows that you're a dog")
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To: MRMEAN

You can be disappointed with Jeb and the Republicans on everything else. (I disagree with the GOP on a few issues, too, and am disappointed on others).

But this isn't about those issues. This is about one issue: Life.

This story would not have been a story if the following had occurred:

...If the woman had left her express wishes in writing

...If the husband had not moved on to other women right away

...If the husband hadn't promised in a court of law to care for his wife for the rest of her life in order to win money

...If the husband had not waited to suddenly remember SEVEN YEARS LATER that his wife didn't want to live, and conveniently remember it around the time that he became engaged to another woman.

There are too many factors that cast doubt on his side of the story. He's going to have to live with the fact that people will always question his motive. His own actions brought about the suspicion. He asked for it.


72 posted on 06/22/2005 9:43:53 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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To: muawiyah
You are both a tad deficient, and you are turning this thread into a name-calling exercise.

Here are YOUR words of wisdom, you old fool

73 posted on 06/22/2005 9:44:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MRMEAN
...Let's see then, what's arguably America's second biggest problem...energy costs perhaps?...

When wheat hit a new all time high of 6 bucks a bushel, was that America's second biggest problem? How about any other commodity which hit a new all time high? Was that the end of the U.S.?

Don't worry about commodities. They will be priced accordingly to supply and demand, and adjustments will be made for their price fluctuations in the market, up or down.

It's quite natural, until government decides to try to control supply and demand. Then, you might get blackouts as they did in California.
74 posted on 06/22/2005 9:45:04 PM PDT by planekT (Suncoast is toast.)
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To: softwarecreator

I agree. This has gone on too long.


75 posted on 06/22/2005 9:45:28 PM PDT by doowahdiddy
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To: rwilson99
Better late than never.
76 posted on 06/22/2005 10:05:51 PM PDT by unspun (unspun.info | What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Peter Libra
Michael Shiavo could have erred- on the side of compassion.

Bingo... as much as I have no reason to be a fan of Mr. Schiavo, I also agree that he erred on the side of compassion. I wish others were willing to do so.

77 posted on 06/22/2005 10:23:55 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: muawiyah
No one believes young people make such wishes known anyway. It defies our understanding of youth to believe otherwise.

Speak for yourself...you might want to put your head in the sand and believe such things, but we're not all as self-absorbed and short-sighted as you. I know many peers who had discussed this topic in high school, even.

Secondly, just because wishes are not written down or recorded doesn't mean they aren't there...and it's also why the law provides for the spouse to act on behalf of the incapacitated one. We have to make decisions based on what we know of another person, as nobody could write everything down. It's called real life.

78 posted on 06/22/2005 10:29:37 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: I still care
Being beholden to Venezuela rankles me.

Same here, but wouldn't it be sweet when they run dry and have to come to us? :-)

79 posted on 06/22/2005 10:30:22 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: muawiyah
Do you have a problem with an official inquiry into an event involving death?

I was one of the loudest voices calling for investigation and charging Mr. Schiavo if there were some crime he committed--check out my old posts if you'd like. But I also pointed out that absent any charges, it's wrong to harass.

There have been 15 years to "investigate" or "inquire"... so why only now?

80 posted on 06/22/2005 10:35:24 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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