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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: elli1
You're merely annoyed because I have pointed out that there are other possible explanations for some of the behaviors of the principles in this story other than the ones that have been sworn into evidence on this thread.

Wrong again. I'm annoyed with people who can't use deductive reasoning after reading ALL of the information on this thread. Either you haven't read everything, or you're defense atty or wanna be who is fantasizing about defending the VDS's.

3,901 posted on 06/28/2005 5:53:14 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Hi Bunny slippers. HI = Holiday Inn.


3,902 posted on 06/28/2005 5:54:01 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: WestCoastGal

I think the lighthouse story was to extend the timeline also.


3,903 posted on 06/28/2005 5:54:51 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: johnb838

John the feeling is mutual, I would have fired for affect on that POS so hard&fast that he would have been hollering, "ya'll quit." NSNR


3,904 posted on 06/28/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: cajungirl

Roger that with a big 10-4. NSNR


3,905 posted on 06/28/2005 5:58:09 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Canadian Outrage

That's what I guessed. Hey, anyone notice that Ashley Banfield is back? She's doing Court TV!


3,906 posted on 06/28/2005 5:58:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: BunnySlippers

Ashley Banfield has been there awhile.

Works behind the scenes mainly.

Fills in for anchors, when needed.


3,907 posted on 06/28/2005 6:00:53 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Carolinamom

Does anyone have a factual answer?

Posted several times & apparently unread by many--Mrs. VDS is an art teacher at the International School. PVDS is or was an Aruban gov't employee. Dual incomes/ probably doing OK but not wealthy unless they have inherited money & I've read nothing one way or the other about that.

3,908 posted on 06/28/2005 6:03:54 PM PDT by elli1
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To: the Deejay

Figures. I never watch CTV ... just checking in for Aruba news.


3,909 posted on 06/28/2005 6:07:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: Canadian Outrage
The item I struggle with is how was Natalle's body disposed of in a couple of hours. It appears to me that the gang (the four arrested) probably planned a gang rape and that they had a fall back plan for murder / body disposal / cover story. Highly unlikely one young suspect would have been able kill Natalle and dispose of her body in a couple of hours without having a plan and help. It makes me sick to think they may walk, but that appears to be what the Arubans plan.
3,910 posted on 06/28/2005 6:08:39 PM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: spectre

"OTOH, I have yet to hear how gracious it was for Paul Van Der Sloot to invite Beth and Greta into their home for a 90 minute talk."

I'll give PVDS credit for inviting Greta and Beth into his house this past week. However, that fact doesn't change his behavior when he told his son to say nothing. Also, he had cameras in his face. Was he going to say NO and have it on tape for all to see?

Let's face it. It's highly unlikely for Natalee to have come in contact with another person after being with Juran. By their own admission, they were with her until at least 2AM. I'd say it's almost slime to none that another person got Natalee.

Having said that, I guess anything is possible, but who had the motive, or opportunity??? Juran and the other two lied. We're now hearing the father of Juran may have invented the whole LYING story. Why??? My guess is those kids haven't cracked due to the days and days of PVDS telling them to SAY NOTHING. Due to lunacy, he had at least 9 days to program Juran and the two brothers, into silence.

I know most here don't think Natalee was sold, but it too is possible. That would account for Juran and the other two, plus the Dad keeping their mouth shut. If they sold her and told the authoriites to whom, they might find their throats slit like the other guy. Which reminds me. Who killed him and why???

Sadly at this point, the only hope that Natalee is alive, is if she were sold and taken off the island, imo. I'm still hoping and praying for the miracle of Natalee being found alive and well.


3,911 posted on 06/28/2005 6:11:46 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Excellent post, NSNR~~!!!!!!! I agree with you 1000%!!


3,912 posted on 06/28/2005 6:13:43 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat
"Why is the finger being pointed at Joran? Because he's the son of a judge?" she asked.

No, because your little "saint" was the last person to see Natalee and lied about it! BTW, your husband isn't a judge according to Aruban authorities.

3,913 posted on 06/28/2005 6:14:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: gingersnaps

Am I in a time warp that continually repeats the same cr@p, or what? Many of us are bone tired of repeating ourselves answering the same redundant posts. If you want to keep up, you need to study up.


3,914 posted on 06/28/2005 6:16:35 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Malichi

Malachi, we can lead some horses to water, but we can't make think. Have a great evening, NSNR


3,915 posted on 06/28/2005 6:17:55 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Yes that's a good point. If some of these excusers ever experienced the hell and frustration that the Twitty family and Holloway family are experiencing now, they might think very differently.

God Almighty gives us discernment and I know when I watched those interviews Mr. Van der Sloot was so uncomfortable it was almost painful to watch. He had no sorrow, no shame, just plain discomfort with the situation. He couldn't get it over fast enough. He was treading water just wanting it to be over and not wanting to say ANYTHING. He didn't even look at Beth or Greta when they were speaking to him, instead his flitty wife just kept jabbering nonsense.


3,916 posted on 06/28/2005 6:21:26 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: cajungirl
I went even further & said that if a group (somewhere between 8 & 11 of them) of horn-honking, yelling foreigners were outside my door at 3 am, demanding to see my 17 year old son, they would have been met by Old Bess.

You fail to recognize that the people inside the house have NO idea who is outside or what the hell they want. Somehow the idea that a PO is with them makes it 'OK'. To some. The person inside doesn't necessarily know A. That a police officer is there; B. If the person in a uniform is a real police officer; C. If the PO is arresting the people making the disturbance. All you know is that there is an adversarial situation in your front yard and that it is happening right now. And that is not a situation where a Welcome mat gets rolled out.

To understand this, you can't look at it with 20/20 hindsight. You have to try to see it as it was happening.

3,917 posted on 06/28/2005 6:21:28 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

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3,918 posted on 06/28/2005 6:22:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yes I did notice she's back.


3,919 posted on 06/28/2005 6:23:30 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Toespi
I would say that to a vigilante stepfather and his five friends from Alabama and two policemen from Aruba who have probably been tipped pretty handsomely who decided to take matters into their own hands.

Well, you can say what you have to say to a friend of Natalee's aunt. That would be me. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

3,920 posted on 06/28/2005 6:23:31 PM PDT by kcvl
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