Posted on 06/25/2005 8:33:25 AM PDT by herst1240
I am going through my first college class right now.
It is 4 guys and 3 women. I say women because 2 of them are working on their 2nd degrees....
My guess is that it depends on the college. I know there are a TON of women at Ohio State, but more guys, or at least it seems at Columbus State or COTC.
Glad to see my associate's degree gets me a Masters degree salary.
Maybe those boys are simply too smart to pay tens of thousands of dollars to institutions whose main mission seems to be to demonize them.
Yeah, my wife has a BA and gets a professional degree salary according to that table. Still, the table serves it's purpose. Most non-collage grads aren't making the big bucks. Everyone wants to point the exception instead of the average.
Oh, oh...just what a guy needs--match-making moms! ;)
I am one of those exceptions, but I am working on my degree right now :)
Graphics Design degrees are great if one learns the software and technology!!! My daughter has learned it on her own, not through the degree, sadly. She learned a lot of design, but not the technical aspects which make one so employable. That's why the IS degree. She will get the management and technology/software skills she needs to go with it. She already can do a lot of it because she loves it anyhow, but this will put it on paper.
The author sort of spits that out like "blue collar" is a cuss word.
Yep, according to his stats, my M.S. degree is paying about associates range, but my certifications (non-college) are paying above the master's range. Hmmmmmmmmm..... (I work a second job.)
The "education" system is failing girls too. Very few college graduates have degrees that will actually help them do something productive in their lives, and those types of fields where the degrees are meaningful - hard sciences and engineering - are still dominated by males.
I have no college degree, just a corporate professional certification in my specialty, and I make more than the top figure on the chart of averages.
Degrees can't replace brains, and education is no cure for stupid.
Perzactly, although that is changing. The medical field is one place where there is major concern by the AMA with the decline of male doctors versus the increase of females. I don't have anything to cite at the moment, but I saw something on the news, plus read an article or two on it. In fact, I believe they were posted on FR. MOre and more computer science/information systems majors are female, also.
I make more with my certifications on the side than I do teaching. Those certifications allow me to teach and still afford to live as a single mom with two girls in college (one in grad school). I hear you. My students graduate with multiple certifications and make more than me, too, from the get-go!
Forget the cans. I'll bet you that in your area, the average professional far out earns the average tradesman.
I did see a young plumber the other day that I was very impressed with. New in business and clean-cut. Marine tattoo. He insisted on using new parts when the old were good but he made up for it in speed and expertise. When I got off the phone he had a dozen new accounts. It can be done.
The disappearing male, let's be a bit more specific, how about the disappearing white male. I was recently told by several law professors, that for me to be competitive for acceptance to any law program, I would need to be in the top 25% for LSAT and GPA, because I am straight, white, and male.
My generation of white males has been getting the shaft now because of crimes we never were able to commit. This injustice continues to be expanded by liberals, and racists around the United States. What these groups fail to realize is, that my generation of white males will not sit idly by and watch this continue, there will be a backlash.
Good for you. One of the beauties of a degree is that a degree is portable. I have a good buddy, who worked his way up to a very well paying job in the tool and die industry. However, his small plant was eventually squeezed out, and he found that his 17 years of experience wasn't all that portable. The only jobs he was able to find were at half of his previous salary. Completely the opposite experience I've observed with me degreed wife who's every subequent job has payed more than her previous one.
yeah
I have been lucky so far in the IT industry, but the fact I have a security clearance really helps too.
I am going for my Electrical Engineering degree. Hopefully there will still be aneed for that when I get it.
It's my contention that a lot of today's degrees really don't represent an education. You may argue the extreme examples, but generally, I feel that enough (maybe not from the "right" economic class) young men are able to see the value of a scientic education during the early high school years, and aim for college degrees that will benefit themselves and society.
My avocation is aviation, and I speak with maybe a dozen boys and a few girls, and their parents, every year. A kid who really wants to fly will make the sacrifices to get the required education. One of our "kids" down here in the Keys reports to the Air Force Academy this month.
Another factor to consider is that the skilled trades require academic training as well as skills training, so to say those who choose that path are uneducated is not quite true.
Right along this line is on-the-job education practiced in many organizations. At my first job at a major-market TV station years ago, I had to be re-educated, quickly, because, in the real world, the equipment and procedures they used were way ahead of anything we had at the Big Ten school where I got my degree.
These are fine points, I know, and I'm sorry more underpriviledged young men don't go into professional careers. I try to do my part. If anyone knows some young man interested in a career in technical writing, send him my way. I'll talk to them. Many tech writing positions are not exportable to India because you have to be on site to do the work. Another long post!
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