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Parents miss Mass, kids get ax
NY Daily News ^ | 06.27.05 | NANCY DILLON

Posted on 06/27/2005 1:42:52 PM PDT by Coleus

Parents miss Mass, kids get ax

The pastor of a Staten Island Catholic church is playing holy hardball - kicking hundreds of kids out of religious ed classes because their families aren't showing up at Mass.

The Rev. Michael Cichon, pastor of St. Joseph/St. Thomas in Pleasant Plains, used each family's bar-coded donation envelope to track attendance.

He's tossed about 300 kids from classes and told them not to reapply until next April.

Without the classes, children cannot receive the sacraments, meaning some youngsters who thought they'd be making their First Communion next year will have to wait.

The suspensions, legal under church doctrine, were a shock to many parents with kids enrolled in the 1,400-child program, which caters to kids who don't attend Catholic schools.

"It's hurtful," said Joseph LoPizzo, 38, whose 6-year-old son was booted. "I've been a parishioner at that church for 23 years - longer than he's been the reverend."

LoPizzo said he paid the $150 for his son's Thursday afternoon classes last year, but his father-in-law's illness hampered the family's church attendance.

"I've just never heard of a church kicking you out," complained Lisa Nicol, 36, who got a letter saying her 7-year-old twin daughters had been barred from classes. "They should be more welcoming and sensitive."

The pastor said he suspended kids from the 2005-2006 after-school program because Mass is an "essential" component of the Catholic faith.

The affected families were attending church less than once a month, he said.

Cichon insisted that the move has nothing to do with the lack of a donation.

"There are many families who put absolutely nothing inside the envelopes they submit," he said.

Originally published on June 27, 2005



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: New York
KEYWORDS: canonlaw; catholiclist; ccd; children; church; churchattendance; lapsed; mass; nyc; parents; statenisland; whiners
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Years ago, most parents and their children attended mass every Sunday, no excuses.
1 posted on 06/27/2005 1:43:12 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Should this be considered "mass expulsion"? :)


2 posted on 06/27/2005 1:44:37 PM PDT by My2Cents ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Coleus
I'm conflicted on this one.

The parents need to be called out on their disregard of the Third Commandment, but at the same time the kids need to be instructed no matter how slack their folks are.

It's a tough call.

3 posted on 06/27/2005 1:45:46 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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but his father-in-law's illness hampered the family's church attendance

That works for Protestants but not Catholics. Mass happens all the time.

5 posted on 06/27/2005 1:46:38 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Coleus

What do they do to the non-Catholic pupils?

In our school, the non-Catholic and non-regularly attending (Mass) families pay extra tuition every month. (a substantial amount, imo)

Expelling the kids is going too far, I think.


6 posted on 06/27/2005 1:46:52 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: Coleus
used each family's bar-coded donation envelope to track attendance.

Technically, that just means they didn't turn in an envelope. They could have been there.

I think this is utterly ridiculous, anyway. What are they going to do, use bouncers to keep out the unwashed?

7 posted on 06/27/2005 1:46:58 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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To: Coleus
Years ago, most parents and their children attended mass every Sunday, no excuses.

We never attended mass.

Of course, we weren't Catholic, either.

8 posted on 06/27/2005 1:47:16 PM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: Coleus

Exactly. I'm all for this. (Extenuating circumstances may apply...) But there's no sense in sending a kid to a Catholic school/CCD program if the parents don't want to take the time to set the kind of example the kids should follow. Go to Mass, or send your kids elsewhere. As a private entity, the parish school has the right to expect the parents to fulfil the requirements. One hour a week...hmmm...decisions, decisions.


9 posted on 06/27/2005 1:47:28 PM PDT by redhead (Tune in tomorrow: Same Bat time, same Bat channel...)
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To: Coleus

Don't punish the kids because the parents cannot show.


10 posted on 06/27/2005 1:47:42 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee (www.saluteheroes.org.........www.peoplepolitical.org)
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To: Coleus
I'm failing to see the problem here. Attending Mass is an important part of religious formation and the process of experiencing the Sacraments.

In our parish, they use the envelopes to track attendance, and those who don't make enough Masses lose the tuition discount at the local parochial school.

11 posted on 06/27/2005 1:48:25 PM PDT by Malacoda (*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*)
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To: Coleus
"It's hurtful," said Joseph LoPizzo, 38, whose 6-year-old son was booted. "I've been a parishioner at that church for 23 years - longer than he's been the reverend."

LoPizzo said he paid the $150 for his son's Thursday afternoon classes last year, but his father-in-law's illness hampered the family's church attendance.

I'm sure everyone can come up with one excuse not to attend Mass but there is always time in one's life to fit God in. Where there is a will there is a way. To Catholics, attending Mass should be of the utmost importance.

12 posted on 06/27/2005 1:48:59 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: God-n-GeorgeW
"There are many Churches (including mine) which would be happy to teach Sunday School to any and all, not only those who donate."

It looks more like a case of the parents not going to Mass than not donating. Obviously, they have paid the tuition or their kids wouldn't be in the school.

13 posted on 06/27/2005 1:49:01 PM PDT by redhead (Tune in tomorrow: Same Bat time, same Bat channel...)
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To: God-n-GeorgeW

There are many Churches (including mine) which would be happy to teach Sunday School to any and all, not only those who donate. It's biased reporting like this that gives us Christians a bad name.




I teach Sunday School volunatarily, kids and adults come when they can. We don't force them to. Or kick them out if the parents don't show up for church. I don't understand the reasoning behind that.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 1:49:10 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee (www.saluteheroes.org.........www.peoplepolitical.org)
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To: wideawake
I'm pretty conflicted on this one too.

As a side note (and minor digression into half silliness half seriousness) isn't it the God Parents that are charged with making sure the children grow up to be good catholics?
15 posted on 06/27/2005 1:50:09 PM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: God-n-GeorgeW
It's biased reporting like this that gives us Christians a bad name.

Wow. Imagine that. Biased reporting, giving christians a bad name.

If I ever saw good reports from the MSM on anything christian, I'd look for something amiss, or wait for the other shoe to drop.

16 posted on 06/27/2005 1:50:30 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: wideawake

It shouldn't be a tough call. You don't punish the children for the mistakes of their parents.


17 posted on 06/27/2005 1:50:41 PM PDT by wmichgrad ("The only difference between what Senator Kennedy said & a bag of excrement is the bag" Rush 3/2/05)
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To: vrwcagent0498
In our school, the non-Catholic and non-regularly attending (Mass) families pay extra tuition every month. (a substantial amount, imo)

This is regarding religious education of Catholics. Why would non-Catholics be affected by this?

18 posted on 06/27/2005 1:50:48 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk
"I've been a parishioner at that church for 23 years - longer than he's been the reverend."

You got to love that quote. I wonder how he would stack up in a 'how many masses have you attended' contest with the reverend. Hah!
19 posted on 06/27/2005 1:52:17 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Coleus

As far as I can see, this is only about CCD classes, and CCD isn't going to do your kid a lick of good if you can't get them to Mass at least once a month. Good on the priest.


20 posted on 06/27/2005 1:52:19 PM PDT by Eepsy
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