The body of Theo van Gogh lies alone on an Amsterdam street with 5 page notes written both in Arabic and Dutch.
Posted on 06/27/2005 2:53:40 PM PDT by Cincinna
PARIS, Oct. 9 (UPI) -- A second author Wednesday went to trial in Paris in as many months on charges of inciting racial hatred for a book that has denigrating passages on Islam.
The latest case involves "Rage and Pride," a best-selling novel by Italian writer Oriana Fallaci.
One plaintiff, the anti-racist group MRAP, wants the book banned from France altogether. Two others, including the Human Rights League, simply want disclaimers that its disparaging passages on Islam don't accurately reflect the Muslim religion.
Fallaci, 72, who has cancer, was not present during the opening hearing. But her lawyer, Christophe Bigot, denounced the trial as a campaign for political correctness, to the detriment of free expression.
Fallaci "has been very shocked by recent events, notably Sept. 11," Bigot told France-Info in an interview Wednesday. "She wanted to raise a cry of alarm against fundamentalism."
In her book -- a best-seller in Italy and Spain -- Fallaci characterized Muslims as "vile creatures, who urinate in baptistries" and "multiply like rats."
But Bigot argues Fallaci was targeting extremism, rather than the Muslim religion as a whole.
"She's attacking a certain manner of expressing it," he said.
The anti-racist associations argue otherwise.
"When one finishes reading the book, one recognizes the right to kill any Muslim on the street," argued Hacen Taleb, the lawyer representing MRAP, in a statement to the court.
In June, another French judge refused MRAP's request to ban the book in France.
The Fallaci trial echoes another opened last month against controversial French novelist Michel Houellebecq. Like Fallaci, Houllebecq faces charges of "provoking discrimination, hatred or violence" toward a group because of their religion.
But this time, the charges revolve around Houellebecq's anti-Muslim statements during an interview, rather than the passages in his book. A verdict is expected on Oct. 22. Copyright © 2001-2004 United Press International
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021009-121437-7274r
Next, it will be a crime to read a book.
It is in school. The bible!!
I want to read this book sound like something I would read and enjoy.
I see a certain irony that her lawyer's name is Bigot.
Inciting racial hatred? Here's an idea: Go to downtown Paris wearing a sign that says, "I'm from Brooklyn!" See how many times you hear "Juif!" either whispered or said outright. Just wait until an iron fist takes over France in response to all of this garbage. Vichy II.
Worth the read.
Worth the read.
OK, so he wouldn't have been my first choice as defense counsel in a racial hatred prosecution.
Isn't that a juvenile attitude to take on a national level? Isn't "accuracy " a matter of opinion when describing primitive murderous behavior on a cultural level?
Are they really trying her on a 4 year old book or is this trial over her new book, The Force of Reason?
Isn't that a juvenile attitude to take on a national level? Isn't "accuracy " a matter of opinion when describing primitive murderous behavior on a cultural level?
Are they really trying her on a 4 year old book or is this trial over her new book, The Force of Reason?
Isn't that a juvenile attitude to take on a national level? Isn't "accuracy " a matter of opinion when describing primitive murderous behavior on a cultural level?
Are they really trying her on a 4 year old book or is this trial over her new book, The Force of Reason?
"Rage and Pride" is about three years old and is already available here. I think it's her knew book that isn't yet available in the USA (in English, that is).
Proof positive that European society is degenerate. It hasn't been so bad since the third century.
"I see a certain irony that her lawyer's name is Bigot."
It's Beee-GO, dammit... Bee-GO!!! (cue up Millicent Bucket, errmm, Bouquet, LOL)
"Inciting racial hatred? Here's an idea: Go to downtown Paris wearing a sign that says, "I'm from Brooklyn!" See how many times you hear "Juif!" either whispered or said outright. Just wait until an iron fist takes over France in response to all of this garbage. Vichy II"
How about wearing a yarmulka or a Star of David? Prohibited in government offices, schools, etc. Jews in France have been attacked and hassled in a tremendous upsurge of anti-semitic incidents.
I guess that is not racial hatred.
"Are they really trying her on a 4 year old book or is this trial over her new book, The Force of Reason?"
Signora Falacci os obviously on their hit list. Her first book was actually a novel.
Shades of the fatwah put on Salman Rushdie by the Ayatollah Khomeini for writing Satanic Verses.
I seem to recall this writer being heavily praised by certain liberals pre-9-11; I definitely recall her books being given lots of room in bookstores, as she could be seen as a feminist by those who choose to see everything in that way. Funny how I don't seem to see such attention from those corners these days.
LOL!
Fallaci is indeed a long time liberal and feminist, albeit something of a maverick on the Left.
All these groups exist specifically to fan the fires of racism. The left typically hides behind names that sound the opposite of what they are. Why the need to lie in everything they do? I don't suppose the The Society for the Advancement of Racism would do very well.
Yeah, I think she's in the Christopher Hitchens real of leftists the left is keeping an eye on.
"Just wait until an iron fist takes over France in response to all of this garbage."
They're teetering. The whole EU thing gives me the creeps, being a fulfillment of sorts for the Reich. Powerful delusion over there, condemning Israelis as Nazis. Putative "pro-Palestinian" morphed into the old anti-semitism rather quickly. Chomsky et al. I understand that Chomsky wrote somthing of an apologetic as intro to a book written by a Neo-Nazi in France some years ago. It's an odd admixture that does not fit the preconceptions of Americans, that's for sure. Doesn't look like a combo of the natives' thinly veiled distaste is going to be mitigated by the presence of so many radical Islamists, does it?
The body of Theo van Gogh lies alone on an Amsterdam street with 5 page notes written both in Arabic and Dutch.
As far as I know, "The Rage and the Pride" is a post-9/11 essay that can be read here:
http://italian.about.com/library/fallaci/blfallaci01.htm
It is a wonderful essay.
I've read the book. She is quite articulate, and utterly unafraid to tell it like it is.
Once a bucket always a bouquet.
Once a bigot always a beego.
It looses something when typed.
The 't' is not pronounced in 'Bigot' when stating his name properly in French.
"The 't' is not pronounced in 'Bigot' when stating his name properly in French."
Oui... Beee-GO, dammit, Beee-GO!!!
Only thousands? I bet it's more than that. And that's not counting members of their own faith killed for religious reasons/justifications. Satan smiles...
France. The nation that made 2 best sellers out of conspiracy books that the US launched a missile painted to resemble a plane into the Pentagon on 9/11.
"That's it, sort of like when at a picnic and yellow jackets invade, 'Bee Go!"
Or, in Carolina Low Country ("Geech") it's sort of like "Be Go, fo' somebody drop da house on you!" Oh, wait a minute, that would be "Be gwine." Never mind, LOL.
"The 1960s Jackie Gleason film "Gigot," in which he played a mute Frenchman, was pronounced "zhee-go"
Frankly, I think I like "giggott" better, just as I liked "jiggly" for that Affleck-Lopez stinker from a while back.
Yessss, thank you. I knot.
Is that really spoken English? LOL
"On the Internet, people in the UK and Europe always used to argue that they didn't need to have freedom of speech and freedom of the press in their constitutions because they weren't in danger without them being spelled out..."
Hmmm, recent rulings of the US Supreme Court make me wonder whether spelling things out in a constitution is worth the effort.
France again??
Another page in France's "Brilliant Ideas".
"Is that really spoken English? LOL"
Yep. By white folks, no less. The black folks have Gullah, which is even more unintelligible, but sounds prettier.
"I seem to recall this writer being heavily praised by certain liberals pre-9-11; I definitely recall her books being given lots of room in bookstores, as she could be seen as a feminist by those who choose to see everything in that way. Funny how I don't seem to see such attention from those corners these days."
Ms Falacci is one of those who came over from the dark side. She was a Socialist before she saw the light.
She was always an excellent journalist and interviewer.
To heck with them, and I'm being polite in my language. Enough already.
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