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Really Cool Invention Brings Teens Awards (Amazing Kids-Invented What GM Couldn't)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 07/06/2005 | Jessica Ravitz

Posted on 07/06/2005 8:33:43 AM PDT by skyman

Really cool invention brings teens awards Physics students: They came up with an environmentally friendly, economical air conditioner By Jessica Ravitz The Salt Lake Tribune Salt Lake Tribune

BLUFFDALE - The code name, Space Beast, was one they came up with in the wee hours of the night.

Tyler Lyon, Daniel Winegar and Chad Thornley were overtired and giddy as they tackled a science fair project. Their idea: Eliminate the use of Freon in automobile air-conditioning systems by relying on the Peltier effect - of course.

"We aren't planning our lives around making air conditioners," Lyon explained. "We wanted to do something to help the environment and the economy."

But what began as a Riverton High School physics class assignment nearly two years ago has morphed into an award-winning, internationally recognized invention.

Lyon and Winegar, two recent Riverton graduates - Thornley graduated in 2004 and is now on an LDS Church mission - won the first-ever Ricoh Sustainable Development Award in May when they competed against 1,400 other worldwide invitation-only entries at the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair in Phoenix.

Aside from the $50,000 college scholarship the two 18-year-olds will share, the budding engineers are jetting off to Japan today for a 10-day visit on Ricoh's dime. The office equipment and electronics company, a leader in the field of sustainable development, has invited the Utahns to attend the World Expo, address Ricoh executives, tour their research and development lab, meet with government officials - including the Minister of the Environment - and sit down with Tokyo University professors.

"It's been a total, unbelievable dream," marveled Tyler's mom, Diane Lyon, last week. "They're just typical boys. But when someone believes in you, amazing things can happen."

Physics teacher Kari Lewis, who recently left Riverton High, said trusting in Lyon and Winegar was easy.

"They came up with this idea . . . and they made it work," she said. "It's a perfect solution to an incredible problem."

Today, the young inventors say, U.S. drivers use about 7.9 billion gallons of fuel each year to run their air-conditioners, which draw power from the engine. By adopting their contraption - which taps into the electrical system, using fans to blow hot air through five Peltier chips and then releasing cold air - they say the country stands to save 3.9 billion gallons of fuel annually, or about $10 billion based on current gas prices.

Furthermore, the product would free drivers from Freon - which despite improvements, remains an ozone-depleting chemical in current air-conditioners. The Peltier chips, which they purchased on eBay for $9.99 each, have a life span of 20 to 30 years and an unfaltering cooling capacity. And like every component in the Space Beast, which can be minimized in size to about 2 inches in width, the chips are recyclable.

As a young boy, Lyon's parents said he tore apart and reassembled household electronics - CD players, clocks, an old stereo that didn't work until he fixed it. And while Daniel's mom, LouAnn Winegar, was grateful her son was "not a take-apart-person," she said her boy's love for science, engineering and computers has been consistent.

"It's nice to see all of his years of interest and hard work being recognized," she said.

The two-year process of fine-tuning, however, was not without its glitches. When the teens were trying to convert a blow-dryer fan from AC to DC power, a miswiring gave Lyon a doozy of a shock - "a low-enough amp that it couldn't really stop my heart," he said. And there was that computer power strip that they managed to ignite, before throwing it outside in the snow, only to retrieve it two days later to recycle its parts.

Despite the setbacks, and bouts of procrastination, the teens didn't give up. When they weren't playing computer games, skiing, snowboarding or, in Lyon's case, rock-climbing, they buckled down, sometimes working through the night. Their focus nearly cost them graduation - they had to scramble to make up work in other classes - but they accomplished what others couldn't.

After they had already begun their work, Lyon and Winegar learned about a 1964 General Motors analysis that explored the idea before the car company concluded it wasn't possible.

Going in with open minds, however, the teens were not deterred and pulled off what GM rejected. "Nobody told them it couldn't be done," Robert Lyon, Tyler's dad, said.

The first time he felt a cold gust of air successfully come through the system, Winegar said he remembers saying: "We may actually have something here."

Looks like they do. A Salt Lake City attorney is working to secure a patent. The Environmental Protection Agency called to express interest Tuesday morning. And though repeated attempts to communicate with Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. have gone unanswered, high officials in Japan - an ocean away - are awaiting the arrival of Riverton's young inventors.


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To: myself6
Yeah, that is exactly what happens. The energy coming out of the wires is CONVERTED from mechanical energy. If it appeared out of thin air then all we would need is a gerbil and some really smooth ball bearings and we could power the whole world.
141 posted on 07/06/2005 11:18:59 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: myself6

Wrong. The rotor of an alternator does become harder to turn as the load increases. If it didn't, the alternator would put out its rated output at all times. It takes more fuel to maintain engine RPMs if the alternator is loaded.


142 posted on 07/06/2005 11:19:26 AM PDT by JustRight
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To: myself6

Well my understanding is that it is done in stages. The PMG portion creates enuff amps to create stronger fields that create more amps. It this point, the strength of the next set of coils regulated by the demand place on the alternator. The more demand the stronger the field and the more torque required to turn it. I think the regulator determines the final field strengths.


143 posted on 07/06/2005 11:20:06 AM PDT by Jonx6
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To: TalonDJ

I'm guessing the use of this system would require a re design of the coolant system or an independant cooling system dedicated to it to handle the additional heat load. I didn't mean to imply current auto coolant systems could handle the load.


144 posted on 07/06/2005 11:20:37 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: skyman

too bad so much creative energy is wasted shooting down bogey men like "freon".


145 posted on 07/06/2005 11:22:04 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes
Without running the numbers I would expect that you would burn more gas powering these than running a standard AC.

As an engineer I find it insulting that the poster seems to think GM has not thought of this and run the numbers. These sound like some clever kids but their quote about gas usage makes it very clear they have no idea how to calculate efficiency.
146 posted on 07/06/2005 11:22:07 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: norwaypinesavage

Good explanation. I need to look up the electrical diagram of an alternator I guess. I admit that I was wrong. I jumped in without making sure of the equipment I was talking about.


147 posted on 07/06/2005 11:24:13 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: coloradan; norton
[ Incidentally, if you hook up the battery backwards, it simply reverses the cold and hot sides, with equal efficiency. And if you actively heat one face and cool the other face, it's an (inefficient!) electrical generator - in this case, the heat is being forced to flow, and the charge carriers are what get swept along for the ride. ]

Thanks... Excellent... First thing that crossed my mind..

148 posted on 07/06/2005 11:25:02 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: myself6
Ok, I will give it a try.

Creating electrical current is similar in many ways to pumping water.

The generator is analogous to a water pump. The electrical load is analogous to a nozzle on the end of a hose.

When a water pump turns without the hose nozzle open there is no flow (current). When the nozzle opens a little a little work is being done by the pump. Kind of like a light dimmer, when the lights are low very little electricity flows through the lights. If you open the nozzle all the way the pump has to do a lot of work.

If you have ever listened to a high pressure spray washer as the wand valve is opened and closed you would understand in a second. When the wand is closed the motor does not sound loaded, as soon as the water valve is opened you hear the engine bog down until the governor opens the throttle and helps the engine catch up with the required load.

Exactly the same thing happens with electricity. When the light dimmer is only on a little bit there is very little electricity flowing and the generator does very little work, turn the dimmer on all the way and a lot more electricity flows therefore more work.

I hope this helps.
149 posted on 07/06/2005 11:25:07 AM PDT by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: TalonDJ
" As an engineer I find it insulting that the poster seems to think GM has not thought of this and run the numbers."

See Post 73, I'm sure that this was not the first time this was reviewed.

150 posted on 07/06/2005 11:25:20 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: Lee'sGhost

didn't replace a/c, i simply removed it. replaced alternator for a more powerful one. a/c isn't a needed piece, just strap on a shorter belt to compensate.


151 posted on 07/06/2005 11:25:22 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: JustRight

Yeah...

I see how it works now. I spoke before I familiarized myself with the equipment. Never a good thing to do.


152 posted on 07/06/2005 11:25:34 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: TalonDJ

While I admitted I was in error to the others.

You sir, can go pi$$ up a rope.

;)


153 posted on 07/06/2005 11:27:14 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: TalonDJ

I suspect the real interest in this system is its promise of being able to do away with the freon compnent of cooling. It's an environmental issue and you can expect environmentalists to make erroneous claims all day long if it serves their purpose


154 posted on 07/06/2005 11:27:24 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: skyman

Woo Hoo!


155 posted on 07/06/2005 11:27:35 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: JAKraig

"While your speed may stay the same and your RPM may stay the same there will be an increase in the throttle opening. This throttle change will happen automatically by the cruise control."

Thank you!


156 posted on 07/06/2005 11:31:15 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Arkie2
True, this system would be less complicated in some ways. Although, cars switched to a more 'friendly' coolant than freon years ago.
157 posted on 07/06/2005 11:31:21 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: absolootezer0

I must have missed something. So you now have no AC in your car?


158 posted on 07/06/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: myself6

LOL!

Just pointing out the number 1 sanity check. If you stop and think about the implications of your solution then you can often spot major errors. I had a college prof one time that did not do that. We pointed out that her answer to the test problem would be a perpetual motion machine and OUR answer had balanced forces. That prof was gone not back the next year.


159 posted on 07/06/2005 11:34:49 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Lee'sGhost

Yeah he has no AC. In an older car, once the compressor seals fail the cost of fixing the system is often more than the car is worth.


160 posted on 07/06/2005 11:35:48 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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