Posted on 07/13/2005 9:23:55 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
Washington: The attempts on President Pervez Musharraf’s life were made under the personal directions of Ayman Al Zawahiri, it was revealed here.
Alexis Debat, a noted terrorism expert, who once worked for the French defence ministry, told a meeting at the Nixon Centre here last week that this information was provided by the captured Al Qaeda figure, Abu Farraj Al Libbi.
According to the terrorism expert, who recently spent time in Pakistan and claims to have received extensive briefings from the Pakistan army, the US carried out precision strikes on certain compounds in both North and South Waziristan, but the “Pakistani military doesn’t like to acknowledge that fact.”
Debat said the Pakistan military acknowledges the fact that it has no precision-guided munitions in its arsenal, so the precision strikes could only have been undertaken by the Americans. In all, he said, 326 militants were killed and through a combination of force and cash payments and agreements, the Pakistani authorities were able to keep the tribes in check and collect some information about Al Qaeda’s physical infrastructures in Waziristan. In a raid in June 2004 in the Shakai Valley, the military discovered Al Qaeda’s operational headquarters in Pakistan. Not only were lots of weapons found but also extensive video equipment. There was also a location where a lot of propaganda was produced, filmed and cut, and dozens of computers. Also found were CD-ROMs and tapes that are distributed throughout the tribal areas and the Gulf.
He said the arrest of Abu Farraj Al Libbi had yielded much information about the use of Pakistan as a base, and not just the tribal areas, but the entire country as a base for Al Qaeda. He gave out the names of about 100 operatives in the Gulf who were in charge of logistical planning and raising funds for the organisation in the United Arab Emirates as well as Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
He said Al Qaeda’s Chechen-Uzbek component favours attacking the Pakistani government and establishing a jihad against the Pakistanis. The Arab element is in favour of not attacking the Pakistanis but using the tribal areas as a base to conduct operations across the border against American and coalition forces in Afghanistan and elsewhere. “It looks like this component has won the argument for now, because the operations against the Pakistani military have ceased. And we’ve seen a increasing amount of attacks across the border in Afghanistan,” he added.
Debat said he had been taken to a house north of Peshawar that was controlled by the Jamaat-i-Islami and which for the last four years had served as a safehouse for Ayman Al Zawahiri. He said it became clear to him that there is a “very clear, non-institutional but very clear link between Jamaat-i-Islami all the way down to Al Qaeda.” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, he recalled, was picked up in a house that was also the house of a former ISI major and Jamaat official. “So this party’s fingerprints are all over the mujahideen movement in Pakistan, and that raises some very fundamental questions about US foreign policy,” he added. He went on to wonder whether about the fingerprints of the ISI in all this and asked whether “it is an institutional policy or if it is through personal connections and personal relationships.”
Ramzi Binalshibh, he pointed out, was picked up in a house in Karachi owned by Jaish-e-Muhammad. Daniel Pearl was kidnapped by Harakat-ul-Mujahideen. He was held by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and beheaded by Yemeni militants linked to Al Qaeda, the first link between all of those groups working together on a specific operation.
According to Debat, contrary to what the Pakistan government has been saying, Al Qaeda has an ideological and political base in Pakistan. “It doesn’t make Pakistan an enemy of the United States. Quite the contrary. It makes sections of the Pakistani society antagonistic and enemies of the United States, and dangerous enemies of the United States. It makes Pakistan an extremely important country. It makes the necessity of expulsing, rooting out the Al Qaeda-Taliban component from the tribal areas an absolute necessity,” he stressed.
He said it is also clear that the Pakistan government is “very ambiguous in its commitment to help the United States in the war on terror.” Islamabad was committed but “within the confines of its own national interest.” There were many things it could do to help but it was not doing them because that would be detrimental to the present government’s interest. He said Pakistan wants security and assurances. According to him, every Al Qaeda leader picked up in Pakistan was because of CIA-provided information. He said Pakistan wants the United States to stay in Afghanistan and a long-term commitment by Washington to Islamabad, as Pakistan wants to be a long-term ally of the United States. It wants the same deal that the United States is offering India. He emphasised the need of engaging the Pakistani public and giving Pakistan what it wants.
Debat, turning to India-Pakistan relations, said that both countries and the United States have a common interest in the economic development of the region. “And that’s one of Musharraf’s main strengths is that he has put economic development on top of his priorities,” he added. He said the settlement of the Kashmir issue was essential. According to him, “We absolutely need to resolve the Kashmir issue. There’s a peace process now. From past experience the Pakistani and especially the Indian foreign policy bureaucracies have been able to drag this process for year and years and years and years without any significant progress. We need to bring India and Pakistan together in the same interest.”
>>You will remain nothing more than a 3rd rate Nation who continues on and begs for continued help and support from America (all the while suggesting we aren't doing enough! - Please). Now go answer some phones.
Chronic constipation is terrible.
So is chronic complaints that another Nation you rely on (America) is never doing enough! or doesn't know what it is doing, or isn't' winning or can't find UBL, etc, etc, etc.
Again, you don't have a clue about the GWOT. You don't have a clue about what America is doing, all you have is complaints and ugly words for Pakistan (because your Nation can't even deal with them...without our help).
>>Again, you don't have a clue about the GWOT
Looks like I've got a lot of company.
The first accurate comment I think you have ever made -
Thanks for agreeing with me about that.
Didn't think you'd be open minded enough to admit that the USG protecting jihadi financiers and trainers, the Saudis and the Pakis would be met with your agreement.
Good for you, scamp.
India would have to be nuts to establish much of anything until the terrorists are taken out.
This is Zawahiri (Bin Laden's Egyptian friend) not Zarquawi (the Jordanian terrorist)
I thought Zawahiri was Egyptian. Are you thinking of Zarqawi, who is from Jordan?
Oh darn! You got me!
Funny, Egypt, Jordan and Saudi are our best friends, right? I guess you have to get close to insert the knife in someones back.
No, we know well how valuable a foothold in Asia is in the strategies to deal with the looming threats from China, and Iran, and even North Korea.
We don't "commit" because part of the PR is that we have no long term goals for being in Afghanistan, etc, except ridding the area of terrorists and giving the Afghani people freedom to control their own future.
Dead people can't kill other people?
Yeah. I suppose you're right.
Interesting information here about what they found in Pakistan, if this article is true.
Thanks for the ping!
The entire intelligence apparatus over there is rifled with jihadist lunatics, many of whom have facilitated the escape of Taliban and al-Qaeda operatives since the Afghan War.
I don't doubt they know exactly which safehouses in the "tribal" regions were used to hole up that vermin.
Musharaff has no more control over these pigs than he does the weather. We'll be lucky if he hangs in there for the balance of Bush's term, or winds up on the business end of elements within his own government.
This guy is going to get the whole world mad at him....he's loosing places to hide!
No $h!T ... WE need much much more out of them.
Actually, it IS working 'swimmingly'.......considering how many brutal, valueless murderers want us all dead.
The capture of OBL is part of the goal, but not even close to the whole deal.
The attacks in London are proof that they can't do the damage they once could because we have decimated the al-Qaeda organization.
NO attacks in the U.S. in four years............and it's not because they're not trying, sg. We're just succeeding in stopping them.
Thanks for the ping!
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