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Joseph Wilson Calls on Bush to Fire Rove [barf alert]
WashPost ^ | 7-14-05 | AP

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:41:16 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

WASHINGTON -- Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson called on President Bush Thursday to fire deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, saying Bush's top-level aide engaged in an "abuse of power" by discussing Wilson's wife's job with a reporter.

Wilson decried what he called a White House "stonewall" in the wake of revelations that Rove, a longtime Bush confidant, was involved in the leak to the news media that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA officer.

Bush said Wednesday that he would not comment on discussions that blew her cover because it is the subject of an ongoing investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. White House press secretary Scott McClellan said, however, the president still has confidence in Rove.

Wilson, in an interview broadcast Thursday on NBC's "Today" show, said he thinks the White House's posture in this controversy represents a continuing "cover-up of the web of lies that underpin the justification for going to war in Iraq."

Wilson was asked about statements by Rove's defenders noting that an e-mail describing Rove's conversation with Time reporter Matthew Cooper indicated that Rove did not specifically mention Valerie Plame by name.

"My wife's name is Mrs. Joseph Wilson," he replied. "It is Mrs. Valerie Wilson. He named her. He identified her," Wilson said. "So that argument doesn't stand the smell test ... What I do know is that Mr. Rove is talking to the press and he is saying things like my wife is fair game. That's an outrage. That's an abuse of power."

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What a pile of steaming.......

""cover-up of the web of lies that underpin the justification for going to war in Iraq."

oh please.....

And what's with the "My wife's name is Mrs. Joseph Wilson,"?

I thought her CIA name was Plame?

1 posted on 07/14/2005 5:41:17 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Ping...


2 posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:10 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

I think it's time for the lying Mr. Wilson to shut up. What nerve he has!


3 posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:35 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: All

And I just love the google news title for this story.......their lead btw.


CIA Officer Calls on Bush to Fire Rove
Washington Post - 56 minutes ago

http://news.google.com/nwshp?ned=us

Now Wilson is still a "CIA Officer"?


4 posted on 07/14/2005 5:45:15 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

What a contemptable little nobody this Wilson is.


5 posted on 07/14/2005 5:45:24 AM PDT by Skooz (Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
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To: nuconvert
Wilson is making such an issue of this, I'm wondering what he is REALLY hiding....What went on on the trip that the American people really need to know. Did his wife join him for his vacation? Did she write his report? What are they trying to hide with this smoke screen?
6 posted on 07/14/2005 5:46:21 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: OXENinFLA

And yet the Wall Street Journal recommends Rove should get a medal for pointing out what a lying sack Wilson is.

Imagine that.


7 posted on 07/14/2005 5:47:39 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: OXENinFLA

I'm shocked, shocked that Rove would engage in PARTISAN POLITICS! And Wilson would NEVER do that.


8 posted on 07/14/2005 5:48:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: OXENinFLA
I suspect that Fitzgerald is looking very closely at Mr. Valeria Plame. Sounds to me like we have a rouge CIA agents, sending unqualified relatives out on their own missions, trying to undermine US Foreign Policy.
9 posted on 07/14/2005 5:48:57 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: OXENinFLA

FYI...Wilson will be skipping to all the liberal media shows today...first off....Katie....


10 posted on 07/14/2005 5:49:30 AM PDT by smiley
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To: hoosiermama

"What are they trying to hide with this smoke screen?"

Yeah. You'd think that anyone outed as a proven liar would just slink into the background and hope people forgot about it.
There must be something else behind it.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 5:49:40 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: OXENinFLA
I briefly listened to that lying jackass on the Mitch Albom show here in Detroit yesterday. Albom, the consumate liberal dink never once questioned his possible motives or called him on the Niger issue. I particularly hated the constant references of "undercover operative" when refering to his wife too. I have my own opinion as to what her "undercover operative" duties actually were....

What a lying pukehead he is and what a pandering pukehead Albom is. FWIW, I never listen the weenieboy now that Michael Medved is on in the same time slot.

12 posted on 07/14/2005 5:50:14 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Too many idiots, too little time to deal with them all......I'll just shoot what I can.)
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To: OXENinFLA

I am so puzzeled. Just what part of "Karl Rove is not the focus of this investigation." do these people not get? I've seen people stretch the truth before, but this is a whole new phenomena. Create-your-own-truth, Ignore-the-truth, or Lies-are-the truth, whatever they want to call it. The Prosecutor has said that Rove is not involved, the MSM bleats, "Rove is GUILTY! Let's Execute him!" The Dems call for the resignation of someone who is not even accused (exceppt by them) of a crime! The whole thing is beyond surreal, all the way into absolute madness in the classic use of the word......


13 posted on 07/14/2005 5:50:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: OXENinFLA
Wilson, in an interview broadcast Thursday on NBC's "Today" show,

Well, that should surprise nobody.

Also, I'm wondering how much of these actions are being ordered by MoveOn and Ralph Neas. If they can order Kennedy and crew to say the outrageous stuff they do, why wouldn't Wilson also be on worker bee status with them?

14 posted on 07/14/2005 5:51:24 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (My dad, a WWII veteran always said that America's best ally was...Britain. He was right.)
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To: mware
...rouge CIA ...

I know you meant "rogue" but "rouge" is French for "red". How apropos a typo!.......

15 posted on 07/14/2005 5:52:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: Red Badger

LOL, my bad.


16 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:14 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: hoosiermama
Wilson is making such an issue of this, I'm wondering what he is REALLY hiding.

I agree.

To whom do Valerie Plame and "Patriot"* Joe Wilson owe their allegiance?
*Quote by Harold Ford to Don Imus.
17 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:38 AM PDT by syriacus (Did one of Michael's girlfriends have a key to Terri's apartment? Did Lazy Bones McCabe ask anyone?)
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To: Red Badger

No excuse for that typo, but I'll give one anyway. I didn't have my first cup of coffee yet.


18 posted on 07/14/2005 5:55:30 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: OXENinFLA

I still want to know how this lying nitwit was sent to Nigeria on a fact finding mission given his political leanings and consistent efforts to discredit the White House. He and his wife (who hadn't been overseas in 9 years) are certainly riding the publicity train on this nothing scandal. Her picture in Vanity Fair pretty much guarantees she can never go under cover again, even in alias. What a joke!!!


19 posted on 07/14/2005 5:55:40 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: OXENinFLA
Oh, well I didn't know Wilson wanted Rove fired!
Well, that's it then, sorry Karl but you gotta go, Joe Wilson said so!

Hey Joe, do us a favor and crawl back under your rock.

20 posted on 07/14/2005 5:55:41 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: Casloy
I still want to know how this lying nitwit was sent to Nigeria on a fact finding mission given his political leanings and consistent efforts to discredit the White House.

What's the matter, did you hear Joe? He said the Vice President sent him! We all know Cheney wants the big seat, maybe he thought Wilson could help him get it!

Just goes to show you why the President has been shaking up the CIA management.

21 posted on 07/14/2005 5:58:02 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: OXENinFLA

It's time for Bush to pardon Rove immediately and put an end to this nonsense.


22 posted on 07/14/2005 5:59:32 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: OXENinFLA

So, when is the NOW gang going to condemn Joe Wilson for his patriarchal attitude toward women? He acts like he OWNED her?

And when is someone in the MSM going to connect the dots and realise the Joe Wilson is the one who outed his wife, first by going public about a task that she recommended him for, and then by confirming the unconfirmed press reports about her employment with the CIA?


23 posted on 07/14/2005 6:00:49 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: nuconvert

He's a democrat, so he only had to slink away for long enough to make people forget, then he gets to come back and pretend it never happened.

If Wilson was telling the truth, as he claims (and he is not), Kerry would never have cut him out of his campaign.

You know, it is funny -- did more people have to quit the Kerry campaign because of scandal than have had to quit the Bush administration?


24 posted on 07/14/2005 6:03:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: OXENinFLA

For a guy who spent the days sitting by the pool, sipping green tea and letting our government pay his travel expenses, he has a lot of nerve. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is the real leaker, trying to rid himself of the nagging wife.


25 posted on 07/14/2005 6:07:47 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: OXENinFLA

Her name is Valerie Plame Wilson as she herself notes it in an on-line post on some kind of genealogy web site. Note that the page where she posted was last updated on May 29, 2000 before this phony Plame story hit the liberal press. Go to this link and scroll down to Plame:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Polonnoye/PolList.htm


26 posted on 07/14/2005 6:09:02 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good points Charles! Karl Rove should get a raise with his medal! Good Morning evertone!


27 posted on 07/14/2005 6:13:31 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: Ron in Acreage

LOL. Yeh, that's the ticket --- Pardon Rove!!


28 posted on 07/14/2005 6:15:15 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: TommyDale

I'm wondering if she took an alias and went with him on his little vacation (at government expense of course)....Anyone have anyway to check.


29 posted on 07/14/2005 6:17:07 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: OXENinFLA

This guys is an outright liar. He should be jailed for misuse of public funds and for divulging sensitive CIA material.


30 posted on 07/14/2005 6:18:02 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: OXENinFLA
Being Joe Wilson in a Dream…
31 posted on 07/14/2005 6:19:09 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: OXENinFLA
"My wife's name is Mrs. Joseph Wilson," he replied. "It is Mrs. Valerie Wilson.

That's going to upset some of the feminists! ;^)

32 posted on 07/14/2005 6:20:24 AM PDT by airborne
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To: Cautor
Go to this link and scroll down to Plame: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Polonnoye/PolList.htm

Great find!!
And notice that the email account that Valerie Plame Wilson lists
[jvwilsoniv@XXXXXX]
has her husband's name
...Joseph Wilson IV

33 posted on 07/14/2005 6:24:15 AM PDT by syriacus (Did one of Michael's girlfriends have a key to Terri's apartment? Did Lazy Bones McCabe ask anyone?)
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To: nuconvert
You'd think that anyone outed as a proven liar would just slink into the background and hope people forgot about it. There must be something else behind it.

He's justifiably confident that certain uncomfortable questions won't be asked; questions like this:

"Mr. Wilson, in your editorial you implied that VP Cheney was the impetus for your Niger trip, and you later denied that your wife had anything to do with your selection. Now that the Senate Intelligence Committee has established that she was instrumental in getting you this assignment, including publishing her memo recommending you, shouldn't you retract your initial denial?"

Or this:

"Why do you think you were not asked to sign a confidentiality agreement, which would be SOP for a mission like this?"

Or this:

"If you were concerned about blowing your wife's cover, wasn't it a big risk to take an assignment like this and then write a column in the NYT about it?"

MSM? I don't think so.

34 posted on 07/14/2005 6:27:42 AM PDT by xlib
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To: syriacus

I really wonder why she posted on that page, whether she was really looking for family history. If she's a family history buff, this seems to be the only effort on her behalf I've been able to turn up. I suspect the real reason for this post was to provide someone information on how to contact her husband--so this possibly had some kind of clandestine purpose.


35 posted on 07/14/2005 6:29:38 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: OXENinFLA
"My wife's name is Mrs. Joseph Wilson," he replied. "It is Mrs. Valerie Wilson. He named her. He identified her," Wilson said.

Did he wag his finger when he said that?

36 posted on 07/14/2005 6:34:06 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: nuconvert

Wilson's "cover" is blown. By Joe Wilson. He's desperate. Ergo, the "abuse of Power" pavlovian charge for his followers...


37 posted on 07/14/2005 6:36:00 AM PDT by Alia ( Today is Thursday: Do you know where Howard Dean is?)
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To: OXENinFLA
Carl Rove did not out Valeria, Joe wilson did!

A person on Fox just said that it is not a crime to say someone, such as Porter Goss or Valerie Plame or Joe Wilson's wife, works for the CIA. If you identify that the person has a covert role that's a different story.

He said that Joe wilson may have been the first person to actually out his wife! (If she in fact did have a covert role.)

38 posted on 07/14/2005 6:36:33 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: Ron in Acreage

huh? There's nothing to "pardon" Rove for.


39 posted on 07/14/2005 6:37:31 AM PDT by Alia ( Today is Thursday: Do you know where Howard Dean is?)
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To: OXENinFLA

Here is the video of Wilson this morning

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8568266/


40 posted on 07/14/2005 6:37:45 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It's the liberal "agenda spin" on the "Marriage Protection Act". See, their political "marriages" get protection; Joe Wilson can tantalize the public about his wife; but no one else better do it. Even if they are not talking about her, directly.

I got it.

41 posted on 07/14/2005 6:39:23 AM PDT by Alia ( Today is Thursday: Do you know where Howard Dean is?)
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To: OXENinFLA; Howlin
On the video it also mentions that Plame took a leave of absence from the CIA and has just returned to work
42 posted on 07/14/2005 6:40:12 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: OXENinFLA
Wilson was asked about statements by Rove's defenders...

Yeah, whatever. A thousand other reporters are asking those same questions. But is anybody in the lamestream press showing the slightest curiosity about, for instance, how Wilson "knows" that Cheney selected him for the Niger trip, how he "knows" that Cheney read his report or debrief, both things for which there is no evidence, and which have been denied not just by V.P. Cheney but also by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee?

Has any reporter badgered Wilson (as they've badgered entirely peripheral figures connected with the Bush administration) about how he can continue to deny his wife put him up for the assignment when the Senate Intelligence Committee quoted a memo in which she did so, and also direct testimony from those present that she did likewise in a meeting?

The incuriousity of the press about certain questions is amazing.

43 posted on 07/14/2005 6:42:15 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: OXENinFLA; Howlin
Says that the President says he is a man of his word

That the President said he would fire anyone who was involved with this and since he is a man of his word, a man with honor .. they he should fire Rove

Now keep in mind ... just 2 minutes earlier .. he call the President a liar .. that he lied to the American People about WMD and going to war with Iraq
44 posted on 07/14/2005 6:44:16 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Mo1

Gangel: What do you think of Karl Rove?

Wilson: Oh, I think he's— I'm really very saddened by all of this.





LOL!!!!


45 posted on 07/14/2005 6:45:39 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Cautor; All

Hmmm....this is Valerie Plame's e-mail address (or was):

jvwilsoniv@cs.com

Actually, that looks like Joseph Wilson's e-mail.....


46 posted on 07/14/2005 6:47:21 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Mo1

Does anyone have a transcript of Victoria Toesning(sp) this a.m. on Fox & Friends...she was great! Said that Plume had not worked as an operative since late 1990s and that Wilson should NOT be talking about all of this -- confidentiality agreement..etc. I was just waking up so would like to see others comment if you saw this...


47 posted on 07/14/2005 6:47:28 AM PDT by Ceoman
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To: OXENinFLA

The ultimate come-uppance for Wilson-the-fraud would be for the Special Prosecutor (Fitzpatrick) to file charges against Wilson and his wife for:

(1)conspiracy to file fraudulent reports (on WMD's in Africa) in order to cause political damage to a Presidential Administration.

(2)Neoptism, without the consent of the CIA Director (Tenent).

(3)Perjury, for stating that his wife did not recommend he be appointed special envoy to Africa.

(4)violating the no leak rules due to the fact that he (Wilson) and his wife volunteered information to ??Vanity Fair Magazine confirming she was a CIA employee.

(5)I'm sure there are more.....


48 posted on 07/14/2005 6:47:40 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: OXENinFLA

"My wife's name is Mrs. Joseph Wilson," he replied. "It is Mrs. Valerie Wilson.

SEXIST PIG! Shouldn't it be Mrs. Joseph Wilson-Plame? Or Mrs. Joseph Plame-Wilson?


It's all so confusing!


What gets me about this whole thing is you'd think she was some super secret agent (James Bond in pantyhose) if all you read about it was from the MSM. She had absolutly nothing to do with the D.O.


49 posted on 07/14/2005 6:48:42 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Wilson just can't keep his hatred for Bush to himself. He has to "throw" an investigation, then lie in an article to make Bush look bad, then lie in a book, and now this.

For anyone but the liberal media, this story is an easy one. It's about Wilsons hate, not Rove's truth.

50 posted on 07/14/2005 6:49:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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