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A little birdie told me what the Rove thing is all about.

Posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Don’t ask me, because you know I won’t tell you how I came across this information.

Here is the scoop.

This is all about the Supreme Court.

With the knowledge that Rove was Matthew Cooper’s background source regarding the Plame incident, no matter the fact that no laws were broken, the Democrats leaped upon the matter as a way for Democrats and the MSM to possibly prevent Bush from changing the makeup of the Supreme Court. Under normal circumstances, Democrats cannot stop Bush from reshaping the Supreme Court, and that has Democrats terrified. They cannot sustain a Filibuster without Frist invoking the Nuclear Option on them, so they only have one last option, which is now underway.

The Democrats must demonize Bush to the degree that they can then begin their long-awaited impeachment articles, with the MSM in tow. If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court until the matter is decided. It is the only hope they have left of preventing a Conservative Supreme Court from taking hold, and if they do not accomplish this, the flow of money into Democratic coffers will stop instantaneously.

Next week, you will begin to hear Democrats suggesting that if Bush does not fire Karl Rove, then he is guilty of “Obstruction of Justice” and “Lying to the American People” in order to protect a friend. The Media will play along dutifully, because it was there idea in the first place.

Forget about Judith Miller.

Because the Special Prosecutor has asked the White House not to discuss the matter, no one will be able to inform Miller or the NY Times on how Miller should lie to save herself. Without that knowledge, the Times will not let her testify at all. They are paying her to be silent, and it is they who are actually guilty of ‘Obstruction of Justice’ Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.

What you all are about to see, is the most coordinated, vicious attack ever in the history of Politics against this administration, because those involved have everything at stake. Without control of the Supreme Court, the Liberal agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years. All of their Environmental nonsense, Abortion, Private Property, Affirmative Action and Civil Rights issues go right down the tubes.

The Bush Administration is aware of what is to come, and might be able to prevent it with a little ‘inside baseball’ but the looniest on the left will attempt this no matter what the outcome.

Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who “stole the first election” and won the second election by the “smallest margin of any incumbent President” who is “embroiled in a National Security Scandal” to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. At the same time, Liberal Senators will begin to suggest that Conformation hearings on anyone Bush selects should be postponed until the investigations are over. Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings. Specter is already angry with Bush over the Stem-cell research issue.

Will it work? No. Why? Because Bush understands the law, and also understands (with Rove’s help) that no matter how loud and long the Democrats scream, they and the MSM really cant do anything about the Supreme Court, but can effect public opinion. Bush, by telling Republicans to shut up about his choice, has set precedent for when he tells (by his Supreme Court selections) the Democrats the same thing. If he ignores both sides, he can just choose who he wants, and that is exactly what he will do.

So get ready for an ugly, ugly Summer and Fall. Don’t expect to hear much from Bush on Rove, or the Courts after he makes his selections. Republicans in Congress will also be silent (except Specter and Hagel) and will not risk their own re-elections and legacies to side with Democrats this time round.

So there it is, take it or leave it. I wont answer any questions about how or where I got the information, so don’t ask me.

-PD


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1 posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: Pukin Dog

interesting. and not below the filthy animal demoncraps.


2 posted on 07/14/2005 1:52:59 PM PDT by jw777
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To: Pukin Dog
Just keep in mind, Rove will inevitably yank the rug out form under the dims once again.

Kill A Commie For Mommie

Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

3 posted on 07/14/2005 1:53:19 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: Pukin Dog

BTTT


4 posted on 07/14/2005 1:53:25 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'll buy that.


5 posted on 07/14/2005 1:53:44 PM PDT by jtminton (Help stop second hand rap!)
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To: Pukin Dog
they have an alley

I might believe you had some inside connections if you could spell properly.

Do you have any genuine sources, or is this just your theory? No need to reveal these "sources" but what is the nature of your sources? Be honest.

6 posted on 07/14/2005 1:54:48 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gabon?)
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To: Pukin Dog

If that's the best the Dems can do they are going the way of the Whigs. The Rove thing doesn't have legs. The real funny (or maybe sad) thing is the Beltway types think it does.


7 posted on 07/14/2005 1:55:10 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Pukin Dog

And if it's all about the courts, then essentially this is all about abortion.


8 posted on 07/14/2005 1:55:14 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Pukin Dog

If this assault is planned, I hope to God that you are right and we will hold the ground. I just wish we could fight back.

Can we fight back against this smear campaign?


9 posted on 07/14/2005 1:55:32 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Darkwolf377
Maybe I cant spell, but apparently you cant read. I said don't ask me. Believe what you want.
10 posted on 07/14/2005 1:56:09 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Pukin:

I've been out for a while. Whom do you think the leaker is?

Thanks,


11 posted on 07/14/2005 1:56:51 PM PDT by knowtherules
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To: BoBToMatoE
There is nothing to fight back on. Bush can handle them just fine.
12 posted on 07/14/2005 1:57:02 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Pitifully, this all looks correct to me.
Thanks for the info!


13 posted on 07/14/2005 1:57:12 PM PDT by netmilsmom (There was no sign of a pile of gnawed hearts.....)
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To: Tribune7

You are right. The Beltway types will be screaming shortly about "How come there is no outrage over this by the general public! The Apathy of the American Electorate is at an all time high. This is why W won!" and other stupid talk.


14 posted on 07/14/2005 1:57:16 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: knowtherules
Miller
15 posted on 07/14/2005 1:57:23 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Karl Rove leaked this to you, right??????????????


16 posted on 07/14/2005 1:57:44 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Mo1

check this out *ping*


17 posted on 07/14/2005 1:58:01 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Fl. The lightning capital of the world!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Who told Miller?


18 posted on 07/14/2005 1:58:07 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Pukin Dog
You apparently can't read yourself. I didn't ask for names, merely some idea of who these sources are. The black helicopters aren't going to be able to find you if you simply tell us if you made this up or if you have DNC sources or whatever.

If you don't want to be believed, why did you post this? And no one is asking you to reveal names, merely the nature of your sources.

19 posted on 07/14/2005 1:58:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gabon?)
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To: Pukin Dog
PD....I think you're working too much overtime these days. Relax....sometimes an idiot lib is just an idiot lib. And sometimes the MSM is just carrying the water for their idiot lib friends.

I expect Bush to name nominee tomorrow or Monday. And if/when the Chief Justice resigns, that name will come almost immediately.....unless he dies suddenly, which of course will lead to an appropriate mourning period prior to the naming of a replacement.

20 posted on 07/14/2005 1:58:09 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Pukin Dog

As a last resort, couldn't Bush defuse the situation with Rove's resignation? Isn't that the essense of the leftist attack? I mean, before it gets so drastic as for the nominating process to be stalled. Just a thought.


21 posted on 07/14/2005 1:58:33 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Tribune7

Most people don't even care about this story so once again the Dems are wasting their time. But it's not like they have anything more productive to do anyway.


22 posted on 07/14/2005 1:59:04 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Pukin Dog

Hope you're right...and I hope the rats implode into vapor.


23 posted on 07/14/2005 1:59:07 PM PDT by smiley
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To: Pukin Dog
It is hard for this country boy to fathom why anybody would be so conniving and so dastardly. Nothing seems to be below their level of morality.
24 posted on 07/14/2005 1:59:22 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Darkwolf377
You must be Terry Moran. lol.
25 posted on 07/14/2005 1:59:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
“Obstruction of Justice” and “Lying to the American People”

Hmmm...I wonder where they got that idea?

26 posted on 07/14/2005 1:59:43 PM PDT by FinallyBackInNH
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To: Pukin Dog
How did you came across this information?

I'm just a rebel.

27 posted on 07/14/2005 2:00:10 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Pukin Dog
This is how to combat this strategy. Send every news organization and Congress critter a letter demanding the resignation of John Kerry for "outting" a CIA agent last April 11th during the nationally televised John Bolton hearings.

Senator John Kerry 'Outs' CIA Agent?

http://www.pardonmyenglish.com/archives/2005/04/kerry_outs_cia.html

28 posted on 07/14/2005 2:00:18 PM PDT by federal
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To: Pukin Dog

There is not a chance that they can get an Impeachment campaign going.

They might think that this is their last best chance to save American Socialism, but they will invite a backlash that registers a 9.9 on the Wellstonian Funeral scale if they try it.


29 posted on 07/14/2005 2:00:39 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: FinallyBackInNH
Bingo.
30 posted on 07/14/2005 2:00:39 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well well. And it doesn't surprise me. But for God's sake, we are at WAR here and we have at least a dozen other high priority agenda items that government needs to fix. And this is how the dums intend to spend their time. All this does is divert attention to real issues. I can't stand it anymore. WAKE UP AMERICA!


31 posted on 07/14/2005 2:01:05 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: Pukin Dog

I was wondering about the timing of all this and what you say makes sense in that regard....so what to do?


32 posted on 07/14/2005 2:01:06 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious
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To: Pukin Dog
Don’t ask me, because you know I won’t tell you how I came across this information.

You will if I subpoena your a$$.

< |:)~

33 posted on 07/14/2005 2:01:08 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm sorry folks but Rove screwed up. And he put Bush in an embarrassing situation because Bush said he would fire whoever was responsible. Ditch him. Move on and get back to the real business.


34 posted on 07/14/2005 2:01:23 PM PDT by PFC
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To: RobFromGa
the Wellstonian Funeral scale

Good one.
35 posted on 07/14/2005 2:01:40 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Pukin Dog

Bush should call Dingy Harry and tell him to bring it on. This story has no legs no matter how hard the left and their media sycophants try to push it. This is D.O.A. As such, I hope they try it. It's going to blow up spectacularly in their faces.


36 posted on 07/14/2005 2:01:50 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: mdittmar
Terry Moran AND David Gregory on my post? I am honored!
37 posted on 07/14/2005 2:02:03 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Just taking this on face value for the sake of argument, your description would rhetorically provide the "extraordinary circumstances" that the Democrats would need to allege in order to sustain a filibuster under the prior agreement. If the legitimacy of the presidency is in serious dispute (i.e., the White House under indictment or threat of indictment) then the reasoning would be that it all needs to be resolved before a Supreme Court justice could be nominated. Of course, that's nonsense, but whatever.


38 posted on 07/14/2005 2:02:31 PM PDT by AntiGuv (ô)
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PFC...Bush never said he would fire anyone. Please get your "facts" straight.


39 posted on 07/14/2005 2:02:31 PM PDT by smiley
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To: Pukin Dog
Aww, crap!! It's too hot to go outside, and if you're right, I'm not gonna be able to stand watching all this BS all over the MSM for the rest of the summer!
I've no choice but to stay in a perpetual state of inebriation and do nothing but FReep until football season starts.
41 posted on 07/14/2005 2:02:57 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Unfortunately, the Democrats have been making hay out of this since 2003. That kind of blows up the theory that this has a lot to do with a 2005 Supreme Court vacancy.


42 posted on 07/14/2005 2:02:58 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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I don't understand why you're so pissy about this. OK, so you won't answer questions--what's the harm in asking for something to determine whether you can be trusted or not?

Frankly, the reason I'm asking is because nothing you wrote seems to be "inside" info but things that have been posted here for the past few days.

I couldn't care less if you don't want questions asked, I'll ask. If you want to post commonly accepted ideas which anyone could come up with--editorials will criticize Bush--gee, ya think?--and expect people to just bow down and accept them, that's fine too. Maybe in your world when someone says "Don't ask questions" you comply. Not me.

43 posted on 07/14/2005 2:03:43 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Gabon?)
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To: PFC

I disagree. When the whole truth comes out about this, it is going to be really bad. For the dems, not Bush.


44 posted on 07/14/2005 2:03:46 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Pukin Dog
Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.

Who might the leaker be?

45 posted on 07/14/2005 2:03:56 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Here's an inside tip:

To introduce articles of impeachment a majority of House members must vote for them.

Doesn't seem likely. The House members would probably require some, like, ya know, actual evidence?

The House of Representatives voted on four articles of impeachment on December 19, 1998, passing two of them

46 posted on 07/14/2005 2:04:05 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: PFC
OMG Eleanor CLIFT !!!!
47 posted on 07/14/2005 2:04:06 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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I just hope, with all this whining and lying and underhanded tactics, more Dems will follow the exodus to Independant and Republican parties, and many I know have. They look like a bunch of lunatic kooks, and think the general public is so below them, too stupid to know they are lying about Constitutional law, and more and more Dems are embarrassed by them, and the thought of seeing them in power frightens them. Some Dems I know are VERY leftist. But even they are embarrassed by those in their party making complete fools of themselves, and ignoring their constituents. Increasingly they are seeing them as certifiable, and next time around they should really be very concerned about their elections.

Personally, I look at all this, and IMO, if the Dems hate the fact that they have lost "power" then with the actions of these Dem leader, they ain't seen nuttin yet!! Wait till 06 and 08!!
48 posted on 07/14/2005 2:04:27 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

I'm not sure asking for Rove's resignation would defuse the situation....it might inflame it more by the lib's going public claiming that Rove was just covering for Bush and that's why Bush asked for his resignation.


49 posted on 07/14/2005 2:04:43 PM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Darkwolf377
In all seriousness; after as long as I have been posting my rants here, if you don't know whether or not you can trust me, I cant help you.
50 posted on 07/14/2005 2:05:13 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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